posted December 18, 2013 07:17 PM            

I know you are not lying but - please take a pic and post it - because people are assuming you are making stuff up.

Pixie - He is not stirring. He believes what he is saying.

Faith -

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you pay lip service to "the rape victims should have justice" while your main focus never shifts away from "we need to protect men from false allegations." Really, there are more silent rape victims out there who never get justice than falsely accused men in prison. One is a much bigger problem than the other.

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True. There is no comparison.
There is like a 1 in a million chance that a guy ends up in jail for rape (unfairly).
I mean they never even end up in jail for rape when they have committed rape and it's clear that they have, let alone when there is next to no evidence.

posted December 18, 2013 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I know you are not lying but - please take a pic and post it - because people are assuming you are making stuff up.

Pixie - He is not stirring. He believes what he is saying

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I'm not going to take your word for it.

However, I already admitted the possibility that this ONE incident may be true because the media has been known to cross the line at times for which they can and do get sued. And while posting the pic of this supposed article would return a bit of the benefit of a doubt it would NOT then prove this to be true:

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
As it is men who are accused of rape often often get hanged by the media before the case even goes to court while the women accusing him are "usually" kept anonymous. Just the other day I saw a picture of a man accused of groping a teenage girl on the front page of the paper. The article also listed his name and address!

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Note that he's listing this as a TYPICAL example, which anyone who reads the papers on a regular basis know is BS. The ONLY way this would be believable (other than a "they're about to get so sued" way) is if it was celebrity gossip (but women usually get their share of blame or even all the blame as happened with "trampire" Kristen Stewart and her director) or involving a public figure like a politician or televangelist. Even then the address seems unlikely. That groping (not rape!) got reported on at all means a real slow news day. Offhand I can't think of a single case of groping ever reported in the media--especially on the front page--unless it was done by say a politician (mayor of his town?) or judge or adding it to something else he did (and I've lived in some real small towns!).

Believe him if you want, Odette. I do not.

posted December 18, 2013 08:30 PM            

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That groping (not rape!) got reported on at all means a real slow news day. Offhand I can't think of a single case of groping ever reported in the media unless it was done by say a politician

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I agree. I also said that usually trial by media occurs only in high profile cases.

But I can't see why he would come back to this thread to stir the pot and invent an article that does not exist. AG has never come across to me as someone who intentionally wants to rile up everyone on LL.
He has his own personal problems - which he brings into a lot of his posts on gender issues.

posted December 18, 2013 09:38 PM            

Looks like AG wasn't lying about the news: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/dec/12/restrictions-set-for-man-accused-of-groping -teen/

However, if the guy's address was on the front page, that's another matter.

ETA: They caught him on camera and there have been multiple victims, according to the news reports. The situation is typical: rapists usually prey on many women, are not convicted for one incident but are released and strike again:

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The man charged with groping a 16-year-old girl at Panera Bread in Alcoa on Nov. 29 had a similar incident occur last February which led to his apprehension, according to an Alcoa Police Department report.

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posted December 18, 2013 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Looks like AG wasn't lying about the news

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Even so it was grossly misrepresented. There's a difference between groping (grabbing a boob, for example) and sexual battery with indecent exposure. Heck, if that's being shrugged off as mere groping then that actually works against AG point in addition to not being normal front page news (and I still see no address, though I'll grant it's possible they printed it but quickly removed it from their website as the legal risks became apparent).

But okay, I believe he actually saw this now, even if he's very selective about what he remembers to make his point. (Though I'm wondering if he actually saw the address.)