posted December 03, 2013 01:51 PM            

You probably already read my much longer explanation of why I think you are lying, but you're just misrepresenting (ie lying about) my position now.

posted December 03, 2013 01:55 PM            

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For one thing, many of your stories have this "and it turned out she was lying all along" twist at the end. And basically you reveal that at a predictable point in the conversation...when things heat up against you. So it just strikes me as, like, the ace you keep up your sleeve.

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posted December 03, 2013 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@aquaguy

You probably already read my much longer explanation of why I think you are lying, but you're just misrepresenting (ie lying about) my position now.

I guess people in your life make it easy for you to get away with things like this? It's a shame.

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posted December 03, 2013 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

But I'm not lying lol. You just want me to be a liar because you didn't like what I said.

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I already told you that your story sounded flimsy. Whether I like or dislike the flimsy details is beside the point.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
As for the timing of it. Did it occur to you that I revealed that information after I found out?

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Revealed that information to ...Miss IDK?

To...your mother?

posted December 03, 2013 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
It's all a case of self fulfilling prophecy isnt it.

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posted December 03, 2013 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
[b]Removed
Shouldn't have gotten involved.

(I didn't leave a bad reply for you Odette. Just to be clear. I see your point. The point I don't see is why to continue with this.)

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posted December 03, 2013 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Trying to help? You called me a liar because you don't like what I said lol.

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Who didnt like what you said? I didnt like or dislike what you said, just read it and took it for what it was and read between the lines - grasped the unspoken deeper meaning and frustration coming out of you. Someone who is detached can do that. You can't hide it, no matter how you try to twist the story. It's easier to understand, as an reader now because of the history you have here and all of the other stories you've shared over the years. They are mostly all the same.

Everyone besides you 'gets it' now - sees what's going on with you. This story is really the same as the others at the heart of it. And we continue to repeat ourselves for you as friends, or mirrors in hopes that you will one day really reflect on the comments and take them in. If you continue to ask, people will continue to answer. If you don't like it, don't put yourself through it here.

Here, you jumped to point fingers pretty much crying out "See! You called me a liar." and not really responded to the important things that were said. Boo hoo. Dodge the point and continue to play victim. Another female called you out on bs. Do we think you change the stories up a bit to try to prove a point or hardened opinion you have? Yes. You try very hard at that. Someone saying they see through it is in the long run really only helping you.

Until then, we are just more b!tches for you to use as examples to prove your points to yourself.

posted December 03, 2013 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
T, you rule! Thanks for all your input, and this right comment above says it all.

None of us hates AG, we just want him to snap out of it, for his own sake.

Maybe it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's intended for medicine, honest!

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posted December 03, 2013 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I appreciate that. However, he has his own lessons to learn in due course in his own time. No amount of sharing is going to change him fundamentally, and whatever you share, as valuable as it is, is ultimately up to him to absorb.

We can't make a horse drink from the fountain of knowledge. We can lead the horse to the water, which your goodselves have been doing.

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Agreed.

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I know you don't have anything against AG. A select few people do.

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posted December 03, 2013 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Some things are simply not worth it - you're not. That's the F*****g truth and that's exactly why I edited everything.
There, you've been insulted "son".

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posted December 03, 2013 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Revealed that information to ...Miss IDK?

To...your mother?

Why be cryptic, unless you actually aren't even sure what your story is yet?

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posted December 03, 2013 03:35 PM            

If you believe you should be accepted for who you are no matter what you're dealing with, do you.

There is no point in mincing words here beyond the original topic.

posted December 03, 2013 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Oh well I suppose its easier for ya'll to stay in your radical feminist mindset where women do no wrong and any man who says anything critical of women is a misogynistic liar.

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More lies.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The way ya'll attack me betrays the anti-male sentiments you feel.

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Hey AG, you know what? I walk into a party where there are men and women, and most of the men smile and wave to me. Then at some point they will deliberately come over to talk to me.

Why? Cuz they know I'm good company, cuz I like men! I'm pretty much like Odette described herself a few pages back, I am practically gender-blind when it comes to just having a good time with people.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You question every f *cking thing I say because it goes against your " men bad,women good" worldview.

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Earth to Cap Mercury, from Capricorn sun, you are crashing!

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You can't handle the fact that sometimes women do men wrong so you attack me and twist everything against me.

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You are crashing!

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
In your mind it's always my fault because I'm a man.

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Crashed and BURNNNNED!!!

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
So what do ya' ll do? Get extremely agitated that you can't reasonably blame it all on me and accuse me of lying. I see it all too clearly now.

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So what do you do? Instead of refuting my detailed case for why I consider your story highly improbable, you make up a whole new batch of lies, demonstrating all the more clearly how liberal you are with "facts."

posted December 03, 2013 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by T:
No, you rule!

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posted December 03, 2013 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by T:

A red flag would have gone up for me right there becausee you sound desperate, angry and frustrated ...and even as though you don't respect women. I would have headed for the hills too.

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This reminds me of a man I stopped responding to, in 2011, on a dating site. He seemed nice enough at first, but his profile was full of bitterness, and he would edit it to add more frustration in.

posted December 03, 2013 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Maybe it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's intended for medicine, honest!

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Agreed.

posted December 03, 2013 05:34 PM            

Aqua - Did you say at some point that you had access to her FB page before you even asked her out on a date?
This is what Faith is suspicious about ^ as I gather.

But I thought you only searched for her FB page - after this whole 'situation'. Did I miss something?

posted December 03, 2013 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I was speaking of revealing that I found out that she had a boyfriend. After I revealed that some of you implied that I was lying about that to make myself look better. did it ever occur to you that I didn't reveal that at first because I didn't know it? Because that would make perfect wouldn't it? because that's what happened... Oh well I suppose its easier for ya'll to stay in your radical feminist mindset where women do no wrong and any man who says anything critical of women is a misogynistic liar. The way ya'll attack me betrays the anti-male sentiments you feel. You question every f *cking thing I say because it goes against your " men bad,women good" worldview. You can't handle the fact that sometimes women do men wrong so you attack me and twist everything against me. In your mind it's always my fault because I'm a man.The reaction to this specific instance proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. Any rational person would see this was not my fault and the girl was clearly in the wrong . So what do ya' ll do? Get extremely agitated that you can't reasonably blame it all on me and accuse me of lying. I see it all too clearly now.

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Hmm, over the top a bit, I would not consider them to be radical feminists AG.

Recall what I wrote about this on the other page? This is pretty much how it works in the world in point of fact.

Catch flak for this, however, do keep in mind women "feel" no hegellian internal dialectic needed.

If there is one thing I would like to impress on you in all of this it is the above fact o' life in the dating world

No amount of Don Quixote tilting at windmills will change it.

posted December 03, 2013 07:41 PM            

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Dude! O_O

Which women?

I'm so tired of you slamming people in boxes based on their genitalia.

T and Faith have their own opinions and that's great.

In this instance I don't share them at all.
I disagree with both of them.
And so did Hannah - who is also a woman.

I do think that the answer "idk" was inappropriate and dismissive. I agree with YTA more or less.. but I'm not as harsh as he is. We both have Capricorn Mars, so we are more serious about these things.

posted December 03, 2013 07:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Dude! O_O

Which women?

I'm so tired of you slamming people in boxes based on their genitalia.

T and Faith have their own opinions and that's great.

In this instance I don't share them at all.
I disagree with both of them.
And so did Hannah - who is also a woman.

I do think that the answer "idk" was inappropriate and dismissive. I agree with YTA more or less.. but I'm not as harsh as he is. We both have Capricorn Mars, so we are more serious about these things.

Please get over your gender-related generalisations. It's just too much. You are really not at an age where you can still be justified in seeing the world this way - Padre.

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Odd, did provide the link to the study about the wiring of male vs female brains and the functions those difference were attached to around perception and social skills etc.

To the point at hand, AG said the women was in a relationship as he found out later, which was speculated on earlier in the thread

That was dispensed with not based on evidence to the contrary (the objective approach) it was based solely on individual feelings on the matter overall.

IDK what to make of AG's issues with dating and the rest of it, do think that dismissing his claim out of hand b/c "it's not what I would have done" is a rather good example of feelings over objectivity.

posted December 03, 2013 08:02 PM            

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about the wiring of male vs female brains and the functions those difference were attached to around perception and social skills etc.

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And I replied to you - that whatever differences exist - they don't account for more than 20% of things.. We have at least 80% commonalities in virtue of being the same species and having a mammalian, human brain.
And I like to focus on the big picture - as opposed to the differences here and there.

If Aqua - calls T and Faith hardcore feminists - and you want to reply that T and Faith are not (in your view) hardcore feminists - then by all means, do so.
But I don't see why you need to keep bringing "women" in general.. into your posts... and carrying on with generalisations like - "women are like this and that" O_O

It's just not nice to generalise.
I find it rude.
You don't know every person here.. and you have no reason to say 'we're all the same' in virtue of gender.

posted December 03, 2013 08:14 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Just so you know a radical feminist would not be on a dating site in the first place, at least not looking for men to be with. Generally speaking they believe all men are misogynists who enjoy hurting women (some even believe the Y chromosome is a genetic disorder) which is just one of the reasons why they wouldn't be looking for male companionship. Many even like to change the spelling of "women" so that "men" isn't part of it (such as "womyn" and "wimmin"), though that's not to say every woman who changes the spelling that way is a radical feminist.

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Exactly, which is why AG was offbase with that claim, I've hung out with a more or less radical feminist, only she had not come to realize that is the direction she was heading

Can we say "Patriarchy" a bit more often?

She pointed me to Andrea Dworken

Fun stuff, enjoy lots of different pov's tbh