posted April 03, 2014 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't understand why you care so much if a few people, and a few animals, are gay. It makes no difference. Your fact that male and female create a child is irrelevant and implies that if an animal could be gay then there would be no offspring, yet like with humans only a few are (or conversely that bisexuality is very popular among them, such as bonobos).

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posted April 03, 2014 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Gays are not a minority population. Sexual preference does not and should not make those who choice to be different their own population. It's not for my comfort. It's for the world's comfort. We live in a religious, traditional world whether you believe it or not. Homosexually isn't either of those.

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posted April 03, 2014 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
Homosexuality is neither new nor necessarily contrary to any religion.

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posted April 03, 2014 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
In any religious and moral teachings it's wrong. No one should have to deal with it in the open if they don't want to.

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That's a very ignorant statement.

Exactly what knowledge do you have of "any" and "all" religions to say so? Homosexuality is, in fact, accepted by many religions.

You also cannot say it is contrary to christianity (I presume you are a christian)? As many christians accept it, and the first teaching of christianity is tolerance and love.

Christianity also states it is not up to us to judge other people. It is up to God.

Not that I'm a christian. That stuff was written 2000 years ago and does not all apply.

posted April 03, 2014 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Gays are not a minority population. Sexual preference does not and should not make those who choice to be different their own population. It's not for my comfort. It's for the world's comfort. We live in a religious, traditional world whether you believe it or not. Homosexually isn't either of those.

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Yet more and more countries are accepting of gays, just as interracial marriage has become accepted (once not accepted and for religious reasons saying "God separated the races"). And they're not being hurt by it. So it's not for the world's comfort, it's for the comfort of people who think like you, who are becoming a smaller number every year.

posted April 03, 2014 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Why is this about me? Why are you ALL attacking what I FEEL and believe? If you don't like it then just ignore it because it's not changing.

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posted April 03, 2014 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
That's a very ignorant statement.

Exactly what knowledge do you have of "any" and "all" religions to say so? Homosexuality is, in fact, accepted by many religions.

You also cannot say it is contrary to christianity (I presume you are a christian)? As many christians accept it, and the first teaching of christianity is tolerance and love.

Christianity also states it is not up to us to judge other people. It is up to God.

Not that I'm a christian. That stuff was written 2000 years ago and does not all apply.

Seeing as you are currently also not married yet in a relationship I do not see how you have the right to judge other people based on the bible as you are currently not following what you refer to as "religion" and "tradition".

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posted April 03, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Btw, did you know Jesus said that divorce for any other reason than adultery (specifically of the wife, it's not clear to me if he meant the husband as well) was not accepted by God? By the words of Jesus if you got divorced for any reason other than that then even if you get married again you are a sinner engaged in adultery because you're still married to the original spouse in the eyes of God.

Not that I expect Christians to start amending their state constitutions accordingly.

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posted April 03, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
When you choose to put your opinions out there you have to be able to handle criticism. That's how social life works.

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posted April 03, 2014 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
The exact same thing applies to you.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I find it funny that deepfreeze and barbie are the ones most against homosexuality in this thread. Do they not know that there are alot of "traditional/religious" people (as barbie calls them)who think interracial relationships are unnatural and sinful. I knew a girl here in Tennessee who was told by her parents that she was "going to hell" because she married a black man. Go to Alabama or Mississippi and tell me how "traditional/religious" people treat you.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Did I say it wasn't? No. It's my opinion on it and no one here will ever change that. Sexual preference shouldn't be publicly broadcasted period. If you are gay, kudos to you. Why does the whole world need to know?

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Because it's a part of someone's identity... As I was saying just like race is broadcasted to the whole world by just existing in public, it's not something that can be changed or something that anyone should be ashamed of...

posted April 03, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It is my opinion if you don't like it then ignore it. I'm not changing for you or anyone here. Who am I judging? I'm not judging anyone. I stated my opinion and it's shredded by people who don't like it. Do I care uh no? God does love all of his children but it does not mean he will accept all of them. That's taught everywhere. You people need to learn that no matter how you may feel just because a person doesn't believe it's right in their own belief doesn't make it wrong. It's called freedom of speech.

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It's called INCONSIDERATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE. It's called INTOLERANCE. And even if you think that your opinion is hurting no one, it is. It is used as justification for discrimination and hurtful comments way too often. Which is why I refuse to ignore such hurtful statements as the ones you are making.

posted April 03, 2014 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I find it funny that deepfreeze and barbie are the ones most against homosexuality in this thread. Do they not know that there are alot of "traditional/religious" people (as barbie calls them)who think interracial relationships are unnatural and sinful. I knew a girl here in Tennessee who was told by her parents that she was "going to hell" because she married a black man. Go to Alabama or Mississippi and tell me how "traditional/religious" people treat you.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Funny, I'm gay and mix with gays and I don't see that everywhere. Very few are anything like that. You wouldn't have a clue that most people who are gay are gay because they act just like everyone else (that includes gay men being just like other men as opposed to some fashioned obsessed "sissy" bad at sports that many imagine most gay men are like). That is, people (who happen to be gay) in real life, not on TV where everyone (gay and otherwise) is over the top dramatic (either written that way or ignored if they're not that way).

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I partly agree.

I work with many. But two things. They don't go out of their way to make it known, it's still obvious and they certainly don't hide it. They just carry on like most people but will have a picture of their s.o. in their toolbox, or just casually mention them or whatever. Not hiding, but not making it some big deal.

posted April 03, 2014 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
I agree... It's like the kettle calling the pot black.

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But when, or how often do we bring it up? Almost never if not never. Well that's my argument right now.

posted April 03, 2014 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
This just goes to show how ignorant you are AG. Do you think you're hurting or bothering me lol because you're not. You're just showing your true colors.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
It's called INCONSIDERATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE. It's called INTOLERANCE. And even if you think that your opinion is hurting no one, it is. It is used as justification for discrimination and hurtful comments way too often. Which is why I refuse to ignore such hurtful statements as the ones you are making.

You may have freedom of speech, but you are choosing to use it to the detriment of other people, and I don't think I have to, or indeed should, accept that.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I partly agree.

I work with many. But two things. They don't go out of their way to make it known, it's still obvious and they certainly don't hide it. They just carry on like most people but will have a picture of their s.o. in their toolbox, or just casually mention them or whatever. Not hiding, but not making it some big deal.

However...they are also all 30-35+ years of age. The young generation is quite a bit different.
I used to have a friend Andy. He was cool... Funny, etc.
We found magazines of his and just asked him. He "came out" and since that day was just downright annoying. He talked and joked about NOTHING else... Ever.
Not to mention he just suddenly thought he was too good for everyone.

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I will agree that this happens, DeepFreeze, however I think it's just a result of the discrimination and judgment usually but on homosexual people.

posted April 03, 2014 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No .. Im pro interracial marriage.. I'm just pointing out that lots of people would have a problem with your relationship choice and "according to the bible" they would be justified in doing so. So do you think you should have the right to marry who you are attracted to? Of course you do and you should! I just think its odd that the two of you have an intolerant attitude towards homosexuality when you should know what its like to be persecuted by ignorant and judgmental people.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
I will agree that this happens, DeepFreeze, however I think it's just a result of the discrimination and judgment usually but on homosexual people.

Imagine hiding who you really are your whole life and then finally coming out "of the closet"! It must feel so liberating. I think some people go a bit overboard because they can finally express themselves freely, and they love it. We should accept that and celebrate with them for the freedom that they are feeling for the first time in their lives.

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posted April 03, 2014 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I don't have to accept it so I won't. I don't hate anyone. I don't hate gay people. I don't agree with the lifestyle as do many millions of other people in the entire world. Straight "populations" will always surpass gays. Period point blank. If I don't want to be around it then don't bring it around me. Why should I have to change who I am and what I belief for someone who goes against that?

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