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Barbiegirl19
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posted April 03, 2014 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I absolutely will not and would not ever beat a child because they thought they were gay. I plan on supporting and talking with my children. What does myself and my future children have to do with that? Ami Anne brought it up in the first place and I agreed to what she said.

Thanks MsPrism thanks so much.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 23:
Well yes, you could argue it very well is a battle lost as there was no battle in the first place. The State is not going to give to you!

Oh my yes the State will!

That is to say, as long as the knee is bended to taxes, tyrannical regulators, the new high priests known as "All please arise" ie "judges" (snicker) and of course putting up with absolute ******** who have no care about u or your cause other then what you can do for them and if your Demo votes for them.


Let a movement grow that does not give two ***** about what the State wants, and see the reaction.


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posted April 03, 2014 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I know her and I'm telling you that you will NOT, NOT, NOT make her budge a Picometer.


I was merely correcting her statement that people "choose" to be gay. I couldn't care less what opinion she or anyone else has about homosexuals. That's her business, the same way as I think gays have every right to publicly display affection as heterosexuals couples if they want to. They're not harming anyone. Live and let live.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted April 03, 2014 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
I was merely correcting her statement that people "choose" to be gay. I couldn't care less what opinion she or anyone else has about homosexuals. That's her business, the same way as I think gays have every right to publicly display affection as heterosexuals couples if they want to. They're not harming anyone. Live and let live.


It's a fact. You weren't correcting anything sweetheart. Practice what you're spewing.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I absolutely will not and would not ever beat a child because they thought they were gay. I plan on supporting and talking with my children. What does myself and my future children have to do with that? Ami Anne brought it up in the first place and I agreed to what she said.

Thanks MsPrism thanks so much.


Very instructive, care to do a Youtube search for lil old ladies being beaten during the CA prop 8 vote?

Oddly, somehow does not make the meter move for the sloganeers.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I absolutely will not and would not ever beat a child because they thought they were gay. I plan on supporting and talking with my children. What does myself and my future children have to do with that?

I don't think you'd ever get violent either. However, your idea of "supporting" isn't as supportive as you think. Being gay is not a choice and to treat it like it is could lead to suicide or other problem behaviors.

I don't really care what your opinion is, but knowing the kids who suffer, and having heard so many gays talk about their parents who thought it was all a choice, it's rather distressing to hear, for about the same exact reason as those parents who say they'll never take their child to a doctor under any circumstances, just use prayer because that's what their religion says. In some cases they do it even after losing one child. It's just sad, and if they want to choose that way for themselves, fine, but it's distressing when children suffer for such beliefs.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It's a fact. You weren't correcting anything sweetheart. Practice what you're spewing.

Wth are you talking about?

Your logic and arguments are seriously skewed.

But I'll leave you to your homophobia. lol

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Barbiegirl19
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posted April 03, 2014 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't think you'd ever get violent either. However, your idea of "supporting" isn't as supportive as you think. Being gay is not a choice and to treat it like it is could lead to suicide or other problem behaviors.

I don't really care what your opinion is, but knowing the kids who suffer, and having heard so many gays talk about their parents who thought it was all a choice, it's rather distressing to hear, for about the same exact reason as those parents who say they'll never take their child to a doctor under any circumstances, just use prayer because that's what their religion says. In some cases they do it even after losing one child. It's just sad, and if they want to choose that way for themselves, fine, but it's distressing when children suffer for such beliefs.


It is extremely sad. I'm not denying that. I will do whatever I can so that they won't. But if they do there's nothing I can do about it. I will not budge.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Wth are you talking about?

Your logic and arguments are seriously skewed.

But I'll leave you to your homophobia. lol


You said "live and let live." So mind your business. If I disagree with you let me live with it. Why does it offend and bother you so much? Again get the F over yourself. I'm not a homophobe.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But the point is that you mind your own business about any of your future children's sexuality. That's what we're all talking about.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't think you'd ever get violent either. However, your idea of "supporting" isn't as supportive as you think. Being gay is not a choice and to treat it like it is could lead to suicide or other problem behaviors.

I don't really care what your opinion is, but knowing the kids who suffer, and having heard so many gays talk about their parents who thought it was all a choice, it's rather distressing to hear, for about the same exact reason as those parents who say they'll never take their child to a doctor under any circumstances, just use prayer because that's what their religion says. In some cases they do it even after losing one child. It's just sad, and if they want to choose that way for themselves, fine, but it's distressing when children suffer for such beliefs.


Yeah, the pro gay marriage co option "Thinkers" (snickers) are so open minded they mounted a campaign the toss out the man who started JS and Mozilla b/c he kicked 1k to keeping the ideal of trad, State Sponsered marriage

I pity such fascists, all are one, all think alike, opinions are not tolerated.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
You said "live and let live." So mind your business. If I disagree with you let me live with it. Why does it offend and bother you so much? Again get the F over yourself. I'm not a homophobe.

Oh **** off Barbie. You don't offend or bother me, you're a kid from where I'm standing. A rather deluded one I might add, but that's your problem.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
But the point is that you mind your own business about any of your future children's sexuality. That's what we're all talking about.

Until they're of age to decide then it is my business.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
I was merely correcting her statement that people "choose" to be gay. I couldn't care less what opinion she or anyone else has about homosexuals. That's her business, the same way as I think gays have every right to publicly display affection as heterosexuals couples if they want to. They're not harming anyone. Live and let live.


If you don't care about her or anyone's opinion then why bother correcting?

That's a little screwy don't ya think? lol
Obviously you care about THAT part.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh **** off Barbie. You don't offend or bother me, you're a kid from where I'm standing. A rather deluded one I might add, but that's your problem.


Then go be an adult and pick with the adults. Why do you always have to comment at me? I'm not the only one who feels the way I do. Get the f over yourself. Why you so obsessed with me Jo B?

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posted April 03, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Until they're of age to decide then it is my business.

........Wow.

SMH just amazing, what an amazing person you are. Wow. So much thought, such wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ZtHrWiSAk&feature=kp

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posted April 03, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh **** off Barbie. You don't offend or bother me, you're a kid from where I'm standing. A rather deluded one I might add, but that's your problem.


Sounds like you care a LOT!
It's funny really.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
........Wow.

SMH just amazing, what an amazing person you are. Wow. So much thought, such wow.


There not here yet. Maybe I'll feel different who knows. I'll cross that road once I get there.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Yeah, the pro gay marriage co option "Thinkers" (snickers) are so open minded they mounted a campaign the toss out the man who started JS and Mozilla b/c he kicked 1k to keeping the ideal of trad, State Sponsered marriage

I pity such fascists, all are one, all think alike, opinions are not tolerated.


I actually understand that (though it was a dating site that started that, IIRC), because if his profits are going to turn people into 2nd class citizens, then why support it with your money? Especially if that money is going to be used to hurt you personally? (At least he kept it to supporting Prop 8 rather than helping finance "kill the gays" bills in Africa as Chick Fil A did.)

It's called a boycott, btw, not Fascism. Now if you want to compare them to those who boycott Disney because of "gay days" then that I can understand.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Low blow insults signal frustration and desperation many times.
You just make fools of yourselves.

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What the non trads do not realize is, their desire does not negate the way the State sees them..mere numbers..something to gain.

Foolish really


I will agree with you on that (and to a large extent with what 23 was saying about the UN being a farce)

But really what's the issue with legalizing it then? To me it's not even a political issue, but if traditionally the constitution was made to uphold a "separation of church and state" why can't we at least have that?

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posted April 03, 2014 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I actually understand that (though it was a dating site that started that, IIRC), because if his profits are going to turn people into 2nd class citizens, then why support it with your money? Especially if that money is going to be used to hurt you personally? (At least he kept it to supporting Prop 8 rather than helping finance "kill the gays" bills in Africa as Chick Fil A did.)

It's called a boycott, btw, not Fascism. Now if you want to compare them to those who boycott Disney because of "gay days" then that I can understand.


What cannot ever be justified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKJEHrvwDI

After all, Fascism, as we heard during Bush's era, comes with applause..right.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I will agree with you on that (and to a large extent with what 23 was saying about the UN being a farce)

But really what's the issue with legalizing it then? To me it's not even a political issue, but if traditionally the constitution was made to uphold a "separation of church and state" why can't we at least have that?


B/c such a reading of the Constitution has become Myopic, focus on that portion and the "free excercise thereof" vanishes

The same knee that should not have to bow to a State sanctioned religion, is also the same knee that belongs to the student who wishes to credit God/the Divine for their success.

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posted April 03, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this thought... It's crazy I know.
What if she and I raised our kids how we want to? If it's outside the law then may the law come down on us. Outside of that, it's none of your business or ours how you raise yours.

Crazy concept right?
I think it could work though. Let's try it.

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posted April 03, 2014 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
What cannot ever be justified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKJEHrvwDI

After all, Fascism, as we heard during Bush's era, comes with applause..right.


Agreed.

But I've only known one guy who cheers that (and wishes for far more extreme violence).

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