posted April 03, 2014 10:01 PM            

How important are our genitals when it comes to the feeling of love in our hearts?

posted April 03, 2014 10:05 PM            

To step back for a moment, my point is:

We ALL mostly have become little consumerist monkeys, drones in the hive so to say.

The only thing that is cooking out is who the consumer dejour every couple of years who politically must be pandered to in order to (snicker) have power acquiesced to them be "we the ppl" (snicker)

All packaged, how nice, why bother to think, and what is the amount of the political donation you'd like to make to "stop" the evil, outside of the mainstream, regressive so and so who is trying to stop us!"

posted April 03, 2014 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Agreed.

But I've only known one guy who cheers that (and wishes for far more extreme violence).

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That is more my observation PJ, what once was wild and free..no longer is..things have been labetamized..it is all about jockeying for power now

Soo wait a minute..so I'm #2 now?

posted April 03, 2014 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
B/c such a reading of the Constitution has become Myopic, focus on that portion and the "free excercise thereof" vanishes

The same knee that should not have to bow to a State sanctioned religion, is also the same knee that belongs to the student who wishes to credit God/the Divine for their success.

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Except the free exercise clause doesn't disappear by keeping that separation, that's kind of the entire point... In what way does it vanish?

My opinion is that gay marriage should be legal not to be "accredited by God" (I don't believe in such things lol) but because there are very practical financial and legal benefits available to straight couples that homosexual couples are denied on a legal/religious basis (religion being the justification). So in a way the state is benefiting by keeping it illegal

Primarily though I see this as a moral issue and find it ridiculous that so many ppl are brainwashed like unintelligent sheep into discriminating against others for something that the "church condemns". As has gone on with racism in the past, sorry to those who disagree but this won't be tolerated in future generations...

posted April 03, 2014 10:16 PM            

Yeah, this preacher had a good lesson on that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JsRx2lois

posted April 03, 2014 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Except the free exercise clause doesn't disappear by keeping that separation, that's kind of the entire point... In what way does it vanish?

My opinion is that gay marriage should be legal not to be "accredited by God" (I don't believe in such things lol) but because there are very practical financial and legal benefits available to straight couples that homosexual couples are denied on a legal/religious basis (religion being the justification). So in a way the state is benefiting by keeping it illegal

Primarily though I see this as a moral issue and find it ridiculous that so many ppl are brainwashed like unintelligent sheep into discriminating against others for something that the "church condemns". As has gone on with racism in the past, sorry to those who disagree but this won't be tolerated in future generations...

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B/c things do not work that way, if a Valedictorian speech wishes to credit Jesus for her success, it is forbidden, via prior edit, under your Doctrine.

Now I am of a mind of if a Community wishes to have a display, then fine, if voluntarily paid for, not from taxpayers $$

posted April 03, 2014 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
I am desperate to prevent the breaking of hearts over something that really does not matter at the end of the day.

How important are our genitals when it comes to the feeling of love in our hearts?

Gosh I really hope you don't have a child that's gay and if you do, I really really hope that your minds will have changed or will change once you realise how much love exceeds our physical selves. How death can quickly show you that it was never really about our physical existence, it was and is always about the love we feel for one another.

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I hope we do so I can punch 'em in the neck!
No, I hope you know that I'm kidding. lol

Barbie always says that I'll be a big softy.
Probably true... I'll scold them when needed but probably play catch, Barbie, whatever they like. Go to school functions... Give them money when they need it. Maybe give them the "what for" if I'm paying for a screw up.
Most of all protect them tooth and nail.

posted April 03, 2014 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Oh my yes the State will!

That is to say, as long as the knee is bended to taxes, tyrannical regulators, the new high priests known as "All please arise" ie "judges" (snicker) and of course putting up with absolute ******** who have no care about u or your cause other then what you can do for them and if your Demo votes for them.

Let a movement grow that does not give two ***** about what the State wants, and see the reaction.

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Firstly, I am not American. I do understand that appointments of judges are political, especially in the higher courts as they are here, Australia;

Secondly, what you say might have some truth concerning the power of money but;

Thirdly, you really from words to the effect of "some understanding", that you don't have an understanding of the judiciary and how it operates. Do you think that the average judge is some automaton? Their opinions may have some sway from politics but I assure you that judges agonise over the judgments they deliver.

posted April 03, 2014 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by 23:

Firstly, I am not American. I do understand that appointments of judges are political, especially in the higher courts as they are here, Australia;

Secondly, what you say might have some truth concerning the power of money but;

Thirdly, you really from words to the effect of "some understanding", that you don't have an understanding of the judiciary and how it operates. Do you think that the average judge is some automaton? Their opinions may have some sway from politics but I assure you that judges agonise over the judgments they deliver.

Got an issue with a view? I imagine he system is the same here as it is in the US, petition your local member and take it from them. Launch an action on a technicality in a court if you see fit as well. More or less, over time and with appeals systems and juries, the judicial system gets it right.

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posted April 03, 2014 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
B/c things do not work that way, if a Valedictorian speech wishes to credit Jesus for her success, it is forbidden, via prior edit, under your Doctrine.

Now I am of a mind of if a Community wishes to have a display, then fine, if voluntarily paid for, not from taxpayers $$

We are way way past that now, and that is derailing the thread so sonus silenti

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Mmmkay then. It's slightly embarrassing but I was in choir during high school and remember the majority of our songs during the holidays were Christian, no other religions, and this was public school... There is separation of church and state but only when it is convenient for the dominant beliefs... Which was my main point

posted April 03, 2014 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Mmmkay then. It's slightly embarrassing but I was in choir during high school and remember the majority of our songs during the holidays were Christian, no other religions, and this was public school... There is separation of church and state but only when it is convenient for the dominant beliefs... Which was my main point

But by all means go on to discuss things that won't derail the thread

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And I would say such Sbutle embracing is the worst of fates, far far better to not take the half step of singing "Noel" and let us sing Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer to drop the illusion,

A Christian saying such things?!?!

See, what the non Trad lobby will discover is there is literally no level that the State and the politicos will not stoop to to pander to it, then, when it becomes inconvenient, they to will be tossed overboard, or marginalized.

Meanwhile, the operative pov, person to person, not State to person, will be long lost, the sowing will be reaped.

posted April 03, 2014 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
And I would say such Sbutle embracing is the worst of fates, far far better to not take the half step of singing "Noel" and let us sing Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer to drop the illusion

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Don't get me wrong I have no problem with ppl singing Noel during the holidays... Just saying I know it's the suburbs and MN is barely outside of the Bible Belt but not everyone is a white, born again Christian, it's a public school so why not even bother pretending to be tolerant of other cultures/religions and throw anything else in the mix?

posted April 03, 2014 11:10 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Don't get me wrong I have no problem with ppl singing Noel during the holidays... Just saying I know it's the suburbs and MN is barely outside of the Bible Belt but not everyone is a white, born again Christian, it's a public school so why not even bother pretending to be tolerant of other cultures/religions and throw anything else in the mix?

Meanwhile Muslim prayer is banned on school premises and gay kids are being bullied while teachers turn a blind eye or even join in on the insults... Yeah makes a lot of sense

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BS, and schools can have "dress like a muslem day" when such is unthinkable for a Christian to do?

Heh

My advice to Christians is to withdraw, have nothing to do with such an unrighteousness.

When "you are not welcomed" signs come up, take heed, sleep in the manger, accomodations are sparse, but far more loving.

Shun this system, leave it, better to spend time with your family then to bother with engaging in it.

Hardcore?

posted April 03, 2014 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
BS, and schools can have "dress like a muslim day" when such is unthinkable?

Heh

My advice to Christians is to withdraw, have nothing to do with such an unrighteousness.

When "you are not welcomed" signs come up, take heed, sleep in the manger, accomodations are sparse, but far more loving.

Shun this system, leave it, better to spend time with your family then to bother with engaging in it.

Hardcore?

perhaps, when "Christians need not apply" is writ large..adios..good luck with that

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I'm sorry I'm just kind of confused as to what you even mean... Are you a Christian Padre? That's an honest question, I never got that impression from you until now...

posted April 03, 2014 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I'm sorry I'm just kind of confused as to what you even mean... Are you a Christian Padre? That's an honest question, I never got that impression from you until now...

And I guarantee you it's not BS at least from my personal experience, but hey that's the Midwest for you... Makes me want to vomit profusely lol

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Oh my yes, however not in the brain sickly "bang you over the head with my Faith" sort of way.

I'm merely a witness and observer, in a way that is what I'm meant to do..does not pay very well tho

To my world view, what has happened is the slime that is politicos, have spread sheeted and focused grouped what is thought of as Christianity..to gain power.

Abortion, non trad marriage, even welfare, all reduced to slogans..that work on the simple.

Now what bothers me, is when I see such simple Faith abandoned by the very political masters that have led us all to this place.

posted April 03, 2014 11:31 PM            

-gloryhole
-skinparty
-fisting

posted April 03, 2014 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
^^

Yeah, this preacher had a good lesson on that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JsRx2lois

Wait for it...

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Haha omg that's too perfect

posted April 03, 2014 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Oh my yes, however not in the brain sickly "bang you over the head with my Faith" sort of way.

I'm merely a witness and observer, in a way that is what I'm meant to do..does not pay very well tho

To my world view, what has happened is the slime that is politicos, have spread sheeted and focused grouped what is thought of as Christianity..to gain power.

Abortion, non trad marriage, even welfare, all reduced to slogans..that work on the simple.

Now what bothers me, is when I see such simple Faith abandoned by the very political masters that have led us all to this place.

Makes me smell smoke a bit tbh

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Interesting! I think we see things similarity in terms of the corruption of politics, just on the opposite side of the coin so to speak... Christianity is a justification for political agendas but that requires ppl to "have faith" not abandon it

posted April 03, 2014 11:46 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Interesting! I think we see things similarity in terms of the corruption of politics, just on the opposite side of the coin so to speak... Christianity is a justification for political agendas but that requires ppl to "have faith" not abandon it

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Which means..politicalized Christians..are being played..as are non trads

Dangle bait, disregard one on one relationships for whatever cause has been spiked into the sub consciousness

Welcome to the Red Pill so to say

I do have to wonder how many non Trad couples realize, if legalized, they fall into the trap Trad couples have fallen into?

I'm not happy, I get half, and the kids to!"!

This from a movement that started at Stonewall, progressed to bathouse AIDS generators, now..want to be like everyone else!

posted April 03, 2014 11:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Which means..politicalized Christians..are being played..as are non trads

Dangle bait, disregard one on one relationships for whatever cause has been spiked into the sub consciousness

Welcome to the Red Pill so to say

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Yes both are being played! Again I don't even see this as a political issue...

And sorry I edited my above post before seeing this...

posted April 03, 2014 11:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Heh..they either run for office, or are appointed by ppl who have run for office.

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posted April 03, 2014 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Yes both are being played! Again I don't even see this as a political issue...

And sorry I edited my above post before seeing this...

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B/c in the US, politics is viewed, such as it is, via messaging, ie, don't think, just listen to the msg.

Granny not a fan of non trad marriage?

Homophobe! (made up word btw)

Non Traditional Couple?

=Amoralists!

Let's vote!

posted April 03, 2014 11:56 PM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Well, you can be one of them too. You live in the US, it's considered a democracy. Concerned with what's going on? Join a party to your liking, get pre-selection and run. Stop taking cheap shots at the legal system.

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Does not work that way 23, offices are controlled via 2 parties, really they are one party, with the illusion of differnce.

posted April 03, 2014 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
B/c in the US, politics is viewed, such as it is, via messaging, ie, don't think, just listen to the msg.

Granny not a fan of non trad marriage?

Homophobe! (made up word btw)

Non Traditional Couple?

=Amoralists!

Let's vote!

Meanwhile..wars, economic aid, debt, pile up as Mick Jagger once said "..don't mind the maggots.."

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posted April 04, 2014 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Yeah I get where you're coming from honestly... But then what's your issue with homosexuality really? I mean from a moral viewpoint?

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Morality?

How dare you broach such a topic!