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Topic: Happiness or karmic duties?
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 1378 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 04, 2014 04:00 PM
Which would you choose?------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 8238 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2014 04:17 PM
welll, if it is Karmic Duties, would that be a choice or a given ? I believe we are born to both and the choice is how we achieve the happiness by fullfilling the duties. ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 1378 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 04, 2014 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: welll, if it is Karmic Duties, would that be a choice or a given ?
Hi, Juni! I believe they may seem as "given" but all of them were chosen, even if not consciously. However - at a conscious level - with no memory of what (and why!) you chose.. what will it be? I gather you lean more towards "learn how to love what you have" vs "have what you love"? ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 04, 2014 05:05 PM
I don't think we can be truly happy unless we fulfill our karmic duties.IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 04, 2014 05:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb:
I believe we are born to both and the choice is how we achieve the happiness by fullfilling the duties.
Well put! That's how I see it too. We cannot escape our karma anyway so me might as well try to have a good time while confronting it. Not always easy though. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4989 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 04, 2014 07:39 PM
Happiness. Guess it's worth pointing out that I don't believe in "karmic duties" as defined by an agenda chosen by us before we're born, don't believe we chose our own parents, and things like that. To me that's just the brain trying to rationalize terrible experiences. Karma is a blind machine (like gravity) to me rather than some script we approved before coming into this life (and then there's those who shape and exploit this belief to control people, such as happens in India). And if someone (mortal or spirit) told me I had a "karmic duty" to do something then they'd better have evidence for the claim. Had a fascinating nightmare once regarding this, but I don't feel like explaining it now. Suffice to say God (in Kabbalistic form) told me I had to be somewhere bad as I'd murdered someone in a past life and I rebutted the logic very well, IMO, and successfully escaped. Yay for me. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Knowflake Posts: 971 From: You. Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 05, 2014 01:47 PM
From what I understand of karma, the release of bad karma is the path to happiness. Concepts and semantics aside, I am always happi-er, when doing what needs done, and letting go of what no longer serves.
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T Knowflake Posts: 10879 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 05, 2014 10:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Happiness. Guess it's worth pointing out that I don't believe in "karmic duties" as defined by an agenda chosen by us before we're born, don't believe we chose our own parents, and things like that. To me that's just the brain trying to rationalize terrible experiences. Karma is a blind machine (like gravity) to me rather than some script we approved before coming into this life (and then there's those who shape and exploit this belief to control people, such as happens in India). And if someone (mortal or spirit) told me I had a "karmic duty" to do something then they'd better have evidence for the claim.
This is pretty much where i've been at for a long time now too. It's weird when life shatters belief systems you've held for a long time, but it's also freeing. I am happy to admit that when it comes down to it I don't really know a damn thing about anything and if i'm honest, never really did, only thought i did. I don't even want to try and figure it out anymore either. The word karma gives me a prickly irritating feeling at this point and doesn't sit well. So does the whole choosing parents, life path etc. before birth. Right now I lean toward it being a bunch of BS. And not simply because I feel burned.
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FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1971 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted August 06, 2014 04:13 AM
Happiness.Life is too short... Karmic duties come with a whole lot of guilt and I'd like to think at a certain point we can navigate our own destiny. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8298 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 06, 2014 10:40 AM
Karma? In my country it's pet food and that's the only karma I believe in Gimme happiness.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7784 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 06, 2014 12:04 PM
Jesus, I've had enough "karmic duties" for one lifetime. I definitely wouldn't mind happiness even if its fleeting.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8022 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 06, 2014 04:17 PM
There's a kind of happiness that I think it's everyone's "karmic duty" to attain. Like T, I'm not sure of anything, but I have this sneaking suspicion that we are here to be alive, cultivate energy, find our peaceful center, and maintain a connection to that core, come hell or high water. Life is for the living.
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Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 9644 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 06, 2014 04:55 PM
If you can put yourself in a good place inside, and Radiate that Happiness, you are doing your part to raise the overall Karma of everyone.Happy people Are doing their Karmic Duty. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 43591 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2014 07:35 PM
Happiness.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 43591 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 16, 2014 08:01 PM
Ideally, one would be happy fulfilling one's duties. IP: Logged |