posted September 01, 2014 03:34 AM            

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A hospital in the Swedish capital is investigating a possible case of Ebola, Swedish media has reported.

A man who recently travelled to a "risk area" for the virus was taken to Karolinska University Hospital in Stockholm suffering from a fever and is being treated in an isolation unit, the reports said on Sunday.

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"The virus isn't airborne and can only be spread between people through direct contact with blood and other body fluids," daily Svenska Dagbladet wrote, quoting a statement by the Stockholm County Council.

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posted September 01, 2014 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I don't really have anything more to say :-/

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Charlie, just because this disease is scary doesn't mean an isolated case will transform Sweden into an outbreak zone. You should probably be more worried of catching a local variant of hemorragic fever such as Nephropathia epidemica (sorkfeber or myyräkuume) which is spread by rodents in Scandinavia. We actually lost a family member to this disease about 30 years ago, so the danger, though minimal, is real.

With Ebola the risk should be much smaller. Right now a confirmed Ebola case is being treated in my city, and I even know some of the doctors at that hospital. They know exactly what precautions to take, as the disease is not unknown, and the patient will have a much better chance of recovery here than in the country where he got infected. Therefore, I am not worried for the safety of our city in the slightest.

If you want to see what usually happens in the Western health care systems in an outbreak scenario, consider the example of the Marburg Virus (a relative of Ebola) which was named after the town where the first big outbreak took place in 1967. One of the doctors who worked to save the infected patients back then was my academic mentor. Much later, he once gave a vivid description of his experience:

"First the animals died, them the animal caretakers, and finally some nurses got infected. Once we realized we were dealing with a lethal and unknown virus, every doctor in the hospital who still had a few vacation days left took leave immediately. I didn't have this option so I stayed. We worked with protective clothing and did what we could for the patients, but they mostly died under our hands. When we performed autopsies to see what had killed them there was severe necrosis almost everywhere. We had to put the bodies in zinc coffins to prevent the virus from spreading."

posted October 03, 2014 10:02 PM            

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posted October 04, 2014 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
They found one US case now.

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posted October 04, 2014 09:13 PM            

But on a serious note, I am extremely disappointed (but not surprised) with how the CDC is handling this. We need to impose restrictions on who can fly into the country (judge away) because all it takes is one person lying to set off a fire.

posted October 04, 2014 09:21 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

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I wish I could be in the same level of denial as you.

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posted October 04, 2014 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I wish I could be in the same level of denial as you.

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posted October 04, 2014 09:32 PM            

It's sad how naive the public is and believes every darn thing that their tv says. People need to educate themselves thoroughly. It's main purpose is to take focus off of the more important things going on. I mean come on look at the coincidental timing. We haven't even heard of this crap until what a few months ago?

posted October 04, 2014 09:34 PM            

You should listen to Gil Mobley. You can get him on U tube.

He is a microbiologist.

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posted October 15, 2014 09:40 AM            

Even more relevant for the US is page 2:
htt p://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/why-americans-need-to-calm-f234025-down-about-ebola_p2/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage

Yeah, it's done in a humorous way but check out the many links, they go to real articles, the CDC website, etc.

For a very brief summary for those who can't be bothered to read that and the links then it's how you'd have to go out of your way to get it (and even then you might fail) with its spread extremely slow, the media (and many others) profit from keeping you glued to the screen in fear, the panic is far worse than the disease itself (such as false reports pinging when 1 case is found, feelings of doom people have as the media hits them with this over and over, and also a reminder of the SARS panic), Ebola can be easily contained by a country with modern health care system and money that the countries its bad in lack (and such a virus has never been known to mutate as it did in the movie Outbreak), and Ebola is the last one you should be worried about when the flu kills tens of thousands of Americans every year (while Ebola has killed about 5,000 in the world since Star Wars came out in the 70s) and there are even people today still catching bubonic plague (and notice how much worse the plague is in Africa than the US).

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posted October 15, 2014 02:14 PM            

Zmapp has a very low cure rate so far.

posted October 15, 2014 07:54 PM            

That reminded me of something...one, this seems a popular sentiment in many parts of Texas (even in the dry counties):

And so when you mentioned both Texas and Ebola like that I just remembered this:

posted October 15, 2014 08:01 PM            

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posted October 15, 2014 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Keep laughing, Pixie. Come back to this thread in 6 months!

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I'll try to remember.