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Topic: Do YOU abuse in the House Which Holds Nessus?
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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 08:24 AM
  
Taking the Deja "theory" to Nessus,do you abuse in the house which holds Nessus.
I know someone with a 12th house Nessus who abuses but does not SEE it.
The 12th house hides our motivations to us.It suppresses things so they get turned around in funny ways.
They go indirect,you could say.
For example, a Mars here could be passive aggressive rather than direct with it's anger.
Perhaps,it makes any planet /asteroid here like a planet in it's Fall.
I have Mars in Cancer in the Fall and that is how I feel about mine.
I have to struggle mightily to express my drives in a direct way,all of them.------------------
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Anemone
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posted June 02, 2011 08:39 AM
erm, ouch! Mine falls in 1st house...what is this supposed to mean??
Lol I also got Eros and Juno in 1st house but thankfully many many degrees apart from Nessus, so no unhappy conjunctions here! :P
Btw, it is NOT in the same sign as my ascendant, just contained in my 1st house...IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 09:21 AM
Well Anemone
I have Nessus in the 7th so I don;t have to admit much cuz people abuse me  This is not funny cuz it is true.
My longest committed relationship was abusive.
Nessus in the 7th would meet abuse on the outside.
However,if one pulled the Nessus in and accepted one's own Nessus, this should stop
If you accept cast -off planets,I think you stop meeting them on the outside.
What do you think? ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 09:23 AM
If we want to add sign,here, that would be another factor.
What could we say about Cardinal,fixed and mutable?
What could be say about Earth,Air,Fire or water?
IQ said an Air sign would abuse verbally so perhaps we can add these things to the discussion,too.------------------
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Aya_and_baby
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posted June 02, 2011 09:36 AM
I have nessus in 8th... Does that mean that I either abuse sex (or would that be more likely 5th?) or that I abuse my partner's funds?------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 09:40 AM
Hmmmmmmm
I will have to think about this Aya---good question.
Could you abuse by exploiting another's deep, psychological weaknesses?
Just askin  ------------------
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Aya_and_baby
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posted June 02, 2011 09:48 AM
LOL!  I probably could if I really wanted to, but I don't do such things. Especially because I wouldn't want anyone to do it to me (which has been done quite a lot, actually, come to think of it... )------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 09:50 AM
OK the house where Nessus IS could be he way we WOULD abuse.
It does not mean we do. That would come under free will lol------------------
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Anemone
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posted June 02, 2011 10:44 AM
I still cant comprehend how a 1st house Nessus could/would abuse?
By projecting narcissistic tendencies perhaps? (House of Self)
its also in Earth Sign...IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 10:47 AM
Well Anemone
IF it were conjunct the ASC, your persona would be an abuser lol. I am relating what it does to your persona to have the moon ,Venus or Saturn conjunct the ASC,for example.
It makes you Cancer, Libra or Cap like, respectively.
For a first house placement, I will have to think about it.------------------
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KarkaQueen
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posted June 02, 2011 10:53 AM
Nessus retrograde in the 11th house. It's in Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
Anemone
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posted June 02, 2011 10:55 AM
Makes sense(well NOT in my case haha!)
It is not conjunct my ASC, just in my 1st House, it is also in a different sign from my ascendant...maybe thas why i dont identify with my Nessus although its prominent in the 1st House...cause I fully intentify with my Firey ASC and Nessus is in an Earth sign, many degrees apart.
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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 11:02 AM
Well, Let me relate to people who have Pluto in the 1st.
This is NOT to you,Anemone,just talking lol
If you have Pluto in the first ,you are highly Plutonian, strong,forceful, a definite Plutonian/Scorpion presence.
Perhaps, Nessus in the 1st gives one the vibe of Nessus.
I am thinking that Nessus in the first,in general, would be someone who could be abusive as a natural tendency.
I am NOT saying they are. Free will imposes order on all/any of our placements 
What do you guys think based on your experience ?------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Anemone
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posted June 02, 2011 11:25 AM
Well I ve been told I have a commanding 'effect' and regal bearing (thats my Leo ASC lol!)...I always felt the pride/regal thingy comes from Leo/Regulus conjunct in ASC...the sober/commanding effect though ( abit strange to my personality) must have been Nessus...also, a possessive streak perhaps - till now I attributed only to my Taurus Moon. But sometimes my possessiveness would be 'darker' than a Taurus moon could ever bestow...
So its true, planets in 1st really are prominently placed! true to Eros/Juno as well - I look much much younger and give off an innocent persona/vibe - well, I dont know how all these are projected combined though haha~!!IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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posted June 02, 2011 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, Let me relate to people who have Pluto in the 1st.
This is NOT to you,Anemone,just talking lol
If you have Pluto in the first ,you are highly Plutonian, strong,forceful, a definite Plutonian/Scorpion presence.
Perhaps, Nessus in the 1st gives one the vibe of Nessus.
I am thinking that Nessus in the first,in general, would be someone who could be abusive as a natural tendency.
I am NOT saying they are. Free will imposes order on all/any of our placements
What do you guys think based on your experience ?
I found out I have Persephone in the 1st house. So, that means I give off a...captive-like vibe? I don't know too much about the asteroids. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted June 02, 2011 12:18 PM
what do you exactly mean by abuse? ok, i have it conjunct my AC, and i do appear, may be, abusive. which I definitely m not.. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted June 02, 2011 12:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Taking the Deja "theory" to Nessus,do you abuse in the house which holds Nessus.
I know someone with a 12th house Nessus who abuses but does not SEE it.
The 12th house hides our motivations to us.It suppresses things so they get turned around in funny ways.
They go indirect,you could say.
For example, a Mars here could be passive aggressive rather than direct with it's anger.
Perhaps,it makes any planet /asteroid here like a planet in it's Fall.
I have Mars in Cancer in the Fall and that is how I feel about mine.
I have to struggle mightily to express my drives in a direct way,all of them.
in 12th does it mean that we abuse ourselves, our innerself?
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MertSerimer
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posted June 02, 2011 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by love being Aries:
in 12th does it mean that we abuse ourselves, our innerself?
It is definitely true!!!!. I am my own worst enemy. I have to kill myself and reborn with absence of dejanira. IP: Logged |
Amphitrite
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posted June 05, 2011 10:19 AM
I have Nessus in the 12th conjunct NN in cancer. This conjunction is 4 degrees from my asc in Leo. Does this me I abuse my innerself and those around me and I just don't see it? Do I self sabotage? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
It is definitely true!!!!. I am my own worst enemy. I have to kill myself and reborn with absence of dejanira.
What do you mean about Deja ,Mert.Please explain more if you can. ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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ebou
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posted January 14, 2013 01:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Anemone:
I still cant comprehend how a 1st house Nessus could/would abuse?
By projecting narcissistic tendencies perhaps? (House of Self)
its also in Earth Sign...
By exploiting others ego and narcissism. IP: Logged |
inaworldofsong
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posted January 15, 2013 01:12 AM
Nessus 7th. Like Ami, I suppose that would mean I would be abused in relationships. But as I have not had any long-term romantic or business relationships, I can't really say whether that is the case for me or not.IP: Logged |
Sugarplum
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posted January 16, 2013 02:15 AM
i have nessuss in libra 11th house. idk wat that means tho...IP: Logged |
meowpower
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posted December 22, 2014 09:01 PM
I have Nessus in Scorpio in my 12th house. Please help!!!IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted December 23, 2014 12:03 AM
9th house Nessus cancer rx, I was drug through spiritual abused by mom and abused in my home by my family....IP: Logged |
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