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izodesmozina
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posted June 07, 2007 08:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EighthMoon
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posted June 11, 2007 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

The more I look at events/births/things that have already happened, the more that I notice that Karma seems to be OPPOSITE the event (or planet, house, asteroid) that would signify the event. In this case an opposition wouldn't be a negative energy, but would signify a fruition of Karma?

Have you noticed this as well?

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posted June 11, 2007 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alcheme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Iqhunk,

I am somewhat new to astrology, and I have been trying very hard to listen to everyone's suggestion to not skip ahead and master the basics before moving on to the other stuff. That being said, it would seem my willpower is not quite up to Scorpio par... I seem to keep being drawn to karmic and past life part of astrology, and your topic here on the asteroid Karma has peaked my interest on a number of occasions. Thankfully, I always got stuck at the first post about the history of the asteroid and figured it wasn't about what I had thought and moved on. Well, tonight my curiosity seems to have killed the cat, and I made it all the way to the "good stuff"... LOL!

You did a very good job of describing Karma in the signs, Karma in retrograde, and my one Karma aspect (Sun opp Karma). But, I do have a question, and I am not quite sure if it has been covered yet (because this topic is quite long and I can't seem to get the search page to work).

Mine:
Karma in Taurus 25°54’28" in the 5th house in retrograde

What do you think that the significance of a Karma (in retrograde, no less, lol) conjunct the fixed star Algol would be, if any? I wouldn't have asked except for my remember something about it being the most malefic of all the fixed stars. All things considered, that concept does not exactly give me the feeling of lollipops and cotton candy... What I am wondering is if you think that might be significant of the fact that perhaps I have quite a bit of negative karma that I have had to pay the price for (maybe in other lives, since we are talking about Karma) or perhaps that I am going to have to pay the price for...or perhaps you have another possible interpretation...?

Thanks!

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Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Gemini
Asc: Capricorn

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Iqhunk
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posted June 12, 2007 05:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi EigthMoon,
In my experience, Karma conjunctions have triggered more events than oppositions. Depending on the chart, the triggers will be different. For some, squares will be more active. Logically, Karma oppositions will be the most potent.

Hi Alcheme,
"Retrograde" can be best defined as "If you dont learn and then leap again before looking you will jump out of the frying pan into the fire". Non-retrogrades will stay in the frying pan.

5th House Taurus represents Possessive Entrepreneurship, Musical Creativity, Materialistic Romance, Real Estate Speculation Luck and a Tasteful Zest for the luxurious life. Karma retrograde here means a destiny to balance excesses in things like the above points by moderation, responsbility and prudent generosity.
The 26 degrees does have the malefic nature of Algol. One or more past lifelines have practically or figuratively slit some one else's throat. How can this be balanced?
Enable others to speak up for their rights.
It will work wonders.


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venusdeindia
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posted June 13, 2007 06:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what IQ said about Karma transits holds right in my experience.
i wrote on another thread how tr. Karma conjunct tr. Kali trigerred my natal Goddess asteroid aspects.

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posted June 13, 2007 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alcheme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

Hi Alcheme,
"Retrograde" can be best defined as "If you dont learn and then leap again before looking you will jump out of the frying pan into the fire". Non-retrogrades will stay in the frying pan.

5th House Taurus represents Possessive Entrepreneurship, Musical Creativity, Materialistic Romance, Real Estate Speculation Luck and a Tasteful Zest for the luxurious life. Karma retrograde here means a destiny to balance excesses in things like the above points by moderation, responsbility and prudent generosity.
The 26 degrees does have the malefic nature of Algol. One or more past lifelines have practically or figuratively slit some one else's throat. How can this be balanced?
Enable others to speak up for their rights.
It will work wonders.


Thank you so much for your response. Looking at my chart, it would seem I have lots of karmic issues to overcome this lifetime... Thankfully, I incarnated as a Scorpio, so let's bring it on...

I am curious about your conclusion to "enable people to speak up for their rights", though. My Karma being in Taurus, I would have figured that balancing the negative karma would have something to do with learning to be less materialistic or perhaps giving my stuff to people in need or perhaps helping others to achieve material success at my expense, or something like that (for lack of better ways to describe those concepts).

Also, do you believe that house placement has any bearing on Karma or is it purely sign placement?

I am also curious what you think that my Karma opposing my Sun, Anubis, and Siva might mean. You already covered Sun opposing Karma, but I was wondering if the Anubis and Siva in the mix had any significance.

One more thing, you mentioned a Karma conjunct your other's Ascendant was good, but given that mine seems to carry a lot of negative karmic debt, would my Karma conjunct my bf's Ascendant be bad or perhaps bad for him in some way?

Thanks for you time and any insights you may have!

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posted June 14, 2007 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

Great forum!

My brother's Saturn is exactly square my Karma. I dealt with his alcoholism for years.

I asked my psychic if perhaps I had behaved poorly in a previous incarnation. She said that my slate had been wiped clean prior to my current incarnation.

Apparently my strained relationships with my siblings have to do with my learning to say "no."

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posted June 14, 2007 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi IQ,

What are the effects of asteroid Pandora?
My asteroid Pandora is at Capricorn 8°50' in 8th house.
Her asteroid Pandora is at Virgo 17°26' in 3rd house.

Natal aspects

Mine
Pandora sextile Chiron
Pandora quincunx Merlin

Her
Pandora trine Nysa

Synastry aspects

My Pandora conjunct her Sun
My Pandora square her Pluto
My Pandora conjunct her Vesta
My Pandora conjunct her POM 1

Her Pandora quincunx my Sun
Her Pandora sextile my Jupiter
Her Pandora sextile my Camelot
Her Pandora sextile my part of destiny
Her Pandora quincunx my POM 2

All aspects are in 1 degree.

My asteroid Pandora conjuncting with her Sun and squaring her Pluto are the aspects that don't look good to me. Any insight?

What other asteroids should be read with asteroid Pandora?

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Love
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posted June 15, 2007 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ ~

I have read through this thread many times and so if I missed the answer to my question I apologize in advance

I have a couple questions about natal Karma.

First, I have it at 8 degrees Libra. I have read many times that this cannot be a good thing due to that degree representing the Vindamiatrix (ie - the Widow-maker).

Further, it is exactly conjuncting my Pluto, which is is also at 8 degrees Libra. Both Karma and Pluto are in my 4th house.
(Also, transiting Juno is currently conjuncting these natal bodies right now and the best relationship I've ever had just ended...)

Second, my natal Karma is squaring my descendant which is at Capricorn at 9 degrees.

What should I interpret from these placements? And would other placements in my chart soften the seemingly ill effects of these aspects? What do you know about the 8th degree of Libra in general?

Thanks in advance for any insight you may have

~ Love

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Iqhunk
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posted June 16, 2007 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi friends,
I will get back to you in 2 weeks as I have some extra work to be put in (earthly stuff )

Samee bhai, Pandora can be quite a handful. Will disccuss further in depth, it is part of my asteroid essays.

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Diandra23
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posted June 26, 2007 06:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump for anuone who hasnt had the chance to see this insightful and wonderful thread

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Juno
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posted June 26, 2007 06:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oo very kind of you , it is very interesting, thanks.

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posted November 27, 2007 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok reading this thread has me worried now...what if your asteroid Karma is placed all really bad in the natal(about as bad as it can get)? What can one do to help the situation? Does this mean I will have to be an complete saint to avoid anything bad happening? I think I should stop looking at my natal chart...it gets depressing

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

"I seem to have the blind self-acceptance of the eccentric who can't conceive that his eccentricities are not clearly understood"

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posted November 28, 2007 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't feel too bad - mine's in Libra conjuncting Pluto, with just a few minutes of orb, at the 8th degree which is apparently the degree of the Vindemiatrix or the "Widow Maker".

Tee hee.

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posted November 28, 2007 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libraschoice...

Do you mind listing the house/aspects for Karma in your chart?

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posted November 29, 2007 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi EighthMoon...my Karma is in Capricorn in the 6th house, and my aspects to it are...Sun square Karma, Jupiter opposite Karma, Pluto square Karma, Moon opposition Karma, Node square Karma. I was already aware of my seemly bad Karma(too much sh*t hitting the fan) before I even looked at my chart, I am working on being a better soul

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

"I seem to have the blind self-acceptance of the eccentric who can't conceive that his eccentricities are not clearly understood"

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posted November 29, 2007 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then you're on your way, Libraschoice! The first big step is that conscious decision!

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My Karma is in Virgo in the 12th almost exactly conjunct my Ascendent with 0.02 degrees of seperation. also squaring my venus in the 10th in Gemini at zero degrees. I looked at the contacts my Ascendant makes to other planets but it doesnt show my karma making those contacts.. is this because there is a smaller orb associated with asteroid Karma?

I know the Karma Ascendant Conjunction does something to me but if I can get a possible suggestion then I can relate and verify / validate its effect. instead of me guessing forever how it effects me.

oh yea it also opposes my true node which just sounds plain sh*tty! I hope I can evolve in this lifetime. If I had to guess I would say my karma is very good... I am a person with very good intentions and a good heart. atleast I think so

any thoughts on my placements or aspects ?

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posted December 31, 2007 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Karma in 3'18 Libra in 1st,and that's conjunct Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 1st,sextile Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd, quincunx my Moon in 3'11 Pisces, trine my Varuna in 3'01 Gemini Retrograde, Pallas in 2'35 Gemini Retrograde and and Vesta in 3'01 Aquarius in 5th.

My North Karma Node is in 15'01 Aquarius in 5th conjunct my Vertex in 14'59 Aquarius in 5th,trine my Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd.


My Karma Apogee is in 13'27 Scorpio sextile my Ascendant in 13'26 Virgo

http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/

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posted January 01, 2008 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ Hunk could we have your advice and expertise on the matter...thank you!

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

"I seem to have the blind self-acceptance of the eccentric who can't conceive that his eccentricities are not clearly understood"

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If its not too late, I had to jump in!

my Karma conjunct his Juno (and oppose his sun/moon midpoint) in his 7th house????

DOUBLE WHAMMY Karma conjunct Part of Wedding/Legal Contract (anybody know anything about this Arabic Part?)

How about COMPOSITE to NATAL Karma placements?? WHAT does it mean his Karma conjunct Composite Asc and Composite Karma conjunct my natal Asc and his natal MC and SN???

Thanks!

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glaucus
ur karma conj pluto is the best evidence as to whether asteroids work.
anyone who knows ur background and self transformation struggles posted by u is going oooh

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posted January 13, 2008 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaMammy08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Karma in Capricorn 9th house:
conjuct 8th house capricorn sun

square 12th house aries moon

conjunct 9th house capricorn saturn

sextile 6th house sorpio pluto

opposed 2nd house cancer chiron

For comparison between my chart and my friends chart:
his 5th house leo karma square my gemini ascendant

my 9th house Capricorn karma sextile his 5th house leo moon

my 9th house Capricorn karma conjunct his 10th house Capricorn MC


I want to know how do you find information on the aspects between minor asteroids like valentine Isis and juno. Is there a book or what?

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Yes i'm a capricorn with an aries moon and gemini rising. oh yea...

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posted January 14, 2008 01:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow...this is a long thread. Is there any books on Karma instead??? I have been following the thread quiet sometime, very helpful!

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another amazing thread for those interested!

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