posted April 08, 2024 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Note: anyone dealing with ancestral KARMA 3811
should look closer @the placement of YOUR SATURN in natal. The asteroid karma will in someway be defined by an elder, often a grandparent but even a parent. We carry this as seen by spiritual as a curse, hex or bad luck based from the marker set by that particular family event. Could have been ritual abuse, trauma, spiritual abuse/assault or just cruelty. (Case in point 2 Salems)
This is NOT exclusive/inclusion any cultural or heritage. The realm we live in is built upon destruction of many - by many. We are not impervious of it no matter how we see ourselves, elders etc as VICTIMS.
case in point, how could atrocities occur in a location of Earth in the 1930s/40s, those victims are accountable for many current timeliness unfair, cruel undertakings.
To clear or understand your ancestral karma, study the kronos/Saturn and karma connections.

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posted April 08, 2024 12:57 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Note: anyone dealing with ancestral KARMA 3811
should look closer @the placement of YOUR SATURN in natal. The asteroid karma will in someway be defined by an elder, often a grandparent but even a parent. We carry this as seen by spiritual as a curse, hex or bad luck based from the marker set by that particular family event. Could have been ritual abuse, trauma, spiritual abuse/assault or just cruelty. (Case in point 2 Salems)
This is NOT exclusive/inclusion any cultural or heritage. The realm we live in is built upon destruction of many - by many. We are not impervious of it no matter how we see ourselves, elders etc as VICTIMS.
case in point, how could atrocities occur in a location of Earth in the 1930s/40s, those victims are accountable for many current timeliness unfair, cruel undertakings.
To clear or understand your ancestral karma, study the kronos/Saturn and karma connections.

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posted April 08, 2024 05:23 AM            

I found the stunning connections can't be a coincidence. This looks like a way to see the picture of the "doings", "missdoings" of our ancestral wrongs.

I've been talking with my elders and been given information that is reflecting in the natal studies. I might share my findings but this seems to be a pattern many of us will see - if we patiently examine.

posted April 15, 2024 03:00 AM            

I'll remove the quote if you prefer, just ask me. On tablets/phones the ability to review original content isn't as easy.

Does this mean your venus&saturn are in libra?
Have you checked your 10th, 11th and 7th houses as well?
Sagittarius/ jupiter.

These are only guesses. If I better knew your chart I might think otherwise.
There might be an answer beyond relationships.

In karmic matters contracts, "death or marriage/commitments" might play a role indeed. Though I see this could as well be a "communications", "midhaven", "networking" (group activities) sectors.

Perhaps there's an individual role in your karma that you have struggled to "balance". Where Libra/communications come together, if you've found these relationships in challenging circumstances (they end abruptly perhaps > death/endings) this could be you have an independent streak your partners can't
respect, you might over give? - or maybe your career has brought some clashes. As your roles, hats you wear may bring this karma.
Where Saturn plays a role, time could be Elemental in these partnerships? Age differences as well? As well you might be someone whom brings instant karma to those whom you work closely with, and/or love.

I'm also wondering if you have "assisted" as you say through their karma too, by being compassionate regarding their losses. Both of passed on loves or of hardships they feel a failure energetically about.

I might be completely off. If you'd like to share more re those houses, maybe your Capricorn, Aquarius, influences as well (saturn realms) and are you predominantly Cardinal, mutable or fixed?

The bad thing about lessons via "karma" sending them is as Sasha brought to my attention whilst she was here still. (My take on it) The particular lesson is re-sent by the Source team in charge. God, if you prefer. In the form of a new person, with the lesson repackaged. Like regifting a gift. It was brought to my attention my dilemma wouldn't change with a new/different person. until I responded to the person/ lesson differently.

Unfortunately I'm still working through this but it (karma) doesn't go away because we decide not to partake in connections. Or ignore the one(s) sent via karmic law.
Introspection in what or how we show up in the connection(s), the areas of difficulty (squares, opposition) that need our attention
and how we adapt/ modify our positions in the connection(s). How we work "through" the issue(s). Challenges.

I only shared that because you're younger than myself and it's likely you'll have another situation arise at some point. Even if you try to block it, reject the possibility, in some way this lesson will keep arriving or occurring. Like a video game. A different boss could block your progress but you'll still need to achieve the correct responses/ actions to get past that milestone.

Re your chart, if you'd like, I'd be happy to look. Also by looking @your karma/saturn in mp, you might see some extra clarification.

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Not sure if related, but my Saturn is in Libra and my Venus is exactly conjunct Karma in the 8th house...

Clearly there is a connection to relationships, I used to think I just had bad relationships because of past karma (which could still be the case) but I also think I also assist with helping my "partners" work through their karma too? I don't know, but as of right now, I'm not interested in having any romantic relationships, I'm tired of being given lessons and giving them. I need a break.

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