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ErickaF
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posted April 26, 2007 10:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
let the be light...you can go to astro.com & if you are registered...go on & click on free reports and click on extended chart selection you will scroll down at the bottom and where it says add additional asteroids...enter 3811.

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Diandra23
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posted April 26, 2007 11:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Iqunk

i red the part of havig karma in taurus,concerning widowhood ..i felt a little bit scared cause my bf has his karma in taurus at 10th house, in 8š 5ī20R...AND IT opposes jupiter (-1s)
what does that mean,please?
Itīs just cause his ex-girl ( from 4 years ago passed away on a car crash)..so i remembered the word "widowhood" which i dont know if it applies here...

My karma is in Leo,in house 11th, at 13š34ī49,conjuncting mars(2a)


Izo Thatīs so wonderfull for you!
It looks like itīs going to have a marriage..dont forget to tell us when itīs going to be

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 26, 2007 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you find the part of marriage?

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S:Taurus
ASC:Gemini
M:Scorpio

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izodesmozina
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posted April 26, 2007 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,
Thank you for sharing my joy. Not many people do that, so thank you again! But I don't want to get my hopes up again, this relationship has plenty of challenges. Time will tell.
I'm sorry about your boyfriend's pain. That experince must have been awful.

Moon,
Go to http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

Hope you'll find something meaningful! I am currently exploring the Part of Fate (Karma) - mine opposes his Isis, while the part for the first meeting chart conjuncts my Juno. Everything seems to be pointing in that direction, but... I AM SCARED! I calculated the part of marriage like 10 times to see if I got right... It's right, double whammy conjunction with Karma.
I promise, if this will not happen, I won't believe in astrology ever again! There are WAY too many clues pointing to marriage!
God help us all!

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Maire31
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posted April 26, 2007 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maire31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo!! So happy to see you getting some GOOD news!

IQ, would you mind telling me what the relevance of these aspects are, if any?

The Arabic Parts Calculator lists several different parts of marriage, I didn't know which applied so I did them all, lol!

**I used a 2 degree orb**

HIS PoM conj MY Vertex
HIS PoM opp MY KARMA

HIS PoM/Man(1)conj MY Sun & Merc
HIS PoM/Man(2) conj MY Jupiter
HIS DESC conj MY PoM/Woman(1)
HIS Pluto conj MY PoM/Woman(2)

The night we met...transiting...
- Saturn conjuncted his n.KARMA
- KARMA conj HIS n.Amor/n.Osiris
- Pluto conj HIS n.Lust
- Osiris conj HIS n.Vertex
- Lust conj MY n.Valentine
- Venus squ MY n.Karma
- Venus sxt MY n.Moon

as always, much thanks IQ!
M31

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Maire31
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posted April 26, 2007 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maire31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IZO!!

I just saw that you posted just before me, LOL! Just had to say hello before I head out for work...

hope you're basking in that glow of sweet aspects!

ciao,
M31

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izodesmozina
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posted April 26, 2007 12:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Maire!

You've got some pretty powerful aspects there, too hehe! T Pluto conj LUST??? OMG! And all that Part of Marriage aspects!!! I used the simple Part of Marriage. Gonna go check all of them!
Did you get my e-mail? There are some things there which I think you'll find interesting.
Take care!

Izo

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izodesmozina
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posted April 26, 2007 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 26, 2007 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx Izo!Well if I calculated right,both our Parts of Marriage are in Capricorn(Mine 0 deg,his 14 deg).My Karma is also in Capricorn(4 deg).Possible Aspects...

~His Desc.(23 Cap) VERY widely Conj my PoM
~His Moon trine my PoM
~His Saturn trine my PoM
~My Mars trine his PoM
~My Lillith sext his PoM
~My Chiron trine his PoM

Don't really know what to make of it all....

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S:Taurus
ASC:Gemini
M:Scorpio

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SLAYER
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posted April 26, 2007 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Iqhunk,
Is it possible for us to analyize these natal aspects? Anything interesting? Thanks!

PoF sextiles Vesta
PoF opposes Actor
PoF conjuncts Valentine
PoF inconjuncts Venus
PoF squares Mars

Juno conjuncts NorthNode
Juno sextiles Ceres
Juno squares Lilith
Juno opposes Uranus
Juno trines Amazone
Juno squares Karma

Amor conjuncts Pholus
Amor conjuncts Eris
Amor conjuncts Midheaven
Amor conjuncts Sun
Amor semisquares Lust/Osiris conjunction

Karma squares Juno
Karma opposes Lilith
Karma squares Uranus
Karma sextiles Saturn
Karma trines Jupiter
Karma inconjuncts Sun

Osiris conjuncts Lust
Osiris semisextiles Isis
Osiris conjuncts Chiron
Osiris inconjuncts Pluto
Osiris inconjuncts Neptune
Osiris opposes Mars
Osiris semisextiles Mercury

Valentine square Osiris/Lust conjunction
Valentine sextiles Isis
Valentine trines Eros/Neptune conjunction
Valentine squares Mars
Valentine trines Mercury


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Sun/Aries
Moon/Taurus
Leo Ascedant.

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sameesadiq
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posted April 26, 2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Iqhunk,
Thanks for your comments and your kind advice.

In composite
Karma is in 1st house
Saturn is in 11th house
North node is in 4th house
Only, Venus is in 8th house in composite.
Further our Suns are in each others' 8th transposed houses.

Major composite Karma aspects are (asteroids not checked)
Karma square Mars
Karma trine Jupiter

By the way I missed following aspects in my last post

Natally

Mine
Karma Opposite MC(exact).
Infact the aspect is
Conjunction of Karma, Mars and IC opposite conjunction of Saturn, Pholus, MC and Sun.

Her
Karma semi-sextile her Ascendent 13° Cancer

Our Valentines are making one degree trine mutually but there are no major aspects of Valentine with Karma natally, in synastry or in composite, though natally for me they are in same sign Leo at 11°16' distance inbetween and for her in trine sign Saggitarius at 11°33' distance inbetween.

Samee

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Verseau_miracle
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posted April 27, 2007 03:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys...i was wondering if anyone could tell me or had any ideas...in synastry, what if someones asteroid Karma sits on the exact degree and sign of the other persons ascedant? Any ideas would be really greatly appreciated. Thanx
xx

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Verseau_miracle
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posted April 27, 2007 03:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the other persons ASCENDANT, i mean** God sorry am tired

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Iqhunk
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posted April 27, 2007 04:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dear friends,
You have inundated me with questions!
It is a good thing but I will take some time to write the best observations/answers for all the doubts. POM is very important and so is POF and all the major Arabic Parts that deal with Sun, Asc and Planets because they make up the SECONDARY CHART, the shadow chart which times the events in our life during a transit in our primary chart. Every cusp of the secondary chart is important especially during a transit to a planet or cusp of the primary chart. I intend to explain this in detail a few months from now after I am able to observe as many transit triggers from my own life to analyze the possibilities.

To Grazie and Verseau_miracle:
My Asteroid KARMA is on the exact Ascendant Degree and Minute of my wife. It was what caused me to research this Asteroid so much more.
Her Karma and Pluto trine my Sun by 1 degree. Her Valentine conjuncts my NNode and my NNode conjuncts her Valentine by 1 degree orb. My Venus exactly opposes her Saturn and her Moon conjuncts my Pluto, again precisely.
My Pluto squares her Mars exact.

Also, my POMarriage conjuncts our Composite Ascendant.

Always pay attention to Sun, Moon, Asc, NNode, Karma, Valentine, Pluto, Saturn, Mars and Venus in synastry. If 3 or more of these objects dont make exact aspects, then analyzing the synastry further with more asteroids and planets is a waste of time.
If 5 or more of the above objects make exact aspects, then it is necessary to examine every possible planet and relevant asteroid in synastry as you could have found a true soul mate as in Izo's case or my case.

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Verseau_miracle
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posted April 27, 2007 05:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit: ill have to do this when the links work

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let ther b light
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posted April 27, 2007 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks ericka will go and check it out...

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izodesmozina
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posted April 27, 2007 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sameesadiq
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posted April 28, 2007 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Iqhunk,

"Always pay attention to Sun, Moon, Asc, NNode, Karma, Valentine, Pluto, Saturn, Mars and Venus in synastry. If 3 or more of these objects dont make exact aspects, then analyzing the synastry further with more asteroids and planets is a waste of time."

Are these 'exact aspects' within same objects or within any of the objects mentioned above.
Do only major aspects count?
We have in our synastry,
Mars trine Mars
Valentine trine Valentine
Karma Sextile Karma

Further,
her--------mine
Mars trine Karma
Karma Sextile Mars
Asc quincunx Saturn

These all aspects are within 1°. These are only a few example aspects mentioned to understand.

Trying to learn.

Samee

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izodesmozina
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posted April 28, 2007 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<<Always pay attention to Sun, Moon, Asc, NNode, Karma, Valentine, Pluto, Saturn, Mars and Venus in synastry. If 3 or more of these objects dont make exact aspects, then analyzing the synastry further with more asteroids and planets is a waste of time.>>

Question: do you mean parallels, too? I just want to know if our Venus p Valentine double whammy counts (0* orb).

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sameesadiq
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posted May 22, 2007 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk,

Please keep the thread alive. We are waiting for your comments. If you are busy we can still wait. Take your time.

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Iqhunk
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posted May 22, 2007 05:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Samee ,
I missed your last question, and I am very happy to see the synastry you mentioned.
Mars trine Mars is a total blessing, from my personal expereince. You also have Valentine trine Valentine and Karma sextile Karma by 1 degree. The three of them taken togther look to me like a happy marriage certificate

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Iqhunk
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posted May 22, 2007 05:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Samee, pls give me your full Natal Info.
Let me see if I find something important.

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darkdreamer
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posted May 22, 2007 08:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, what an awesome thread!

I have been playing around with some asteroids (especially Karma, Isis and Osiris), and I was quite amazed what I found in my synastry with a very interesting man.

We have almost a Star of DAvid / Grand sextile in our synastry (we actually have one, if you include my Chiron and use wide orbs up to 6°, and both our Karma`s are involved.)

His Karma is widely opposite my Karma (2,5°)
His Karma is sextile my Moon (1°)
My Karma is conjunct his Immun Coeli (2°)
My Karma is sextile his Saturn (1°)
My Karma is trine his Pluto (2°)
My Karma is opposite his Neptune (1°)
My Karma is also trine my own Moon (1°)

So, that is an "almost" Grand sextile, involving my Moon, my Karma and his IC, his Saturn, his Pluto, his Neptune and his Karma.


Apart from that, my Venus - Isis-Osiris-conjunction falls exactly onto his Mercury-Mars-(Adonis)-conjunction (1°).
That synastric stellium is sextile the conjunction of his Venus and my Jupiter (1,5°) and trines my Part of marriage (1°).


Hmm, I don`t know exactly what that could mean, but it caught my attention. If oyu have time, to have a look at that, IQ-hunk, do you have any idea, how that could be interpeted?

DD

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Iqhunk
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posted May 22, 2007 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Darkdreamer,
The aspects as a whole tell me that you both were in a master-apprentice relationship with respect to the occult in many past lifelines. Would there have been love? For that, you would have to check for asteroid Valentine (447) or Amor (1221) aspecting each other or Karma itself. For a bright future together, there has to eb atleast one NNode aspect to Isis, Osiris, Valentine or Karma. Double whammies are guaranteed happiness (As I have said above to Samee)

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posted May 22, 2007 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQHUNK

I have some questions too...

My Juno conjunct his karma
My sun and vertex conjunct his amor
My utopia conjunct his juno
My lilith conjunct his vertex
My valentine conjunct his union
My union conjunct his pluto (3 degrees)
My juno conjunct his ascendant

What do you say?

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