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jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted May 22, 2007 12:47 PM
Another group of question:IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 12:49 PM
Hi JupitersGirl, Juno conjunct Karma and Asc is quite favorable in your case because his Karma conjuncts your Utopia. However, other placements are important too. Without a favorable Sun, Moon, Mars or Venus placment, even the best asteroid placements will prove futile. The basic synastry conditions have to be studied in detail. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted May 22, 2007 12:51 PM
Another group of question:My utopia conjunct his utopia My juno conjunct his valentine (2 degrees) His vesta conjunct my vesta His juno and lilith conjunct my jupiter My union conjunct his uranus (3 degrees) If you have time to answer my questions I'd be very happy . Thank you so much, (Kiss the baby for me)
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Iqhunk unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 12:52 PM
More on the Natal Chart of Asteroid Karma, which I constructed with a birth time of 11:11 indicating angelic awakening codes.Asteroid KAALI was in 29.29 Libra. This mirros the 11:11 code. Also, the Sabian of this degree is "3 mounds of wisdom on a Philosopher's head". Saturn is close by on 28.57 Libra, having the Sabian "Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation". This proves beyond any doubt that Asteroid Karma is the most important asteroid for the sincere student of the occult. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted May 22, 2007 12:52 PM
I know these are only the asteroid conjunctions, there are other ones .IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 12:57 PM
Jupitersgirl, you have a winner with Utopia conjunct Utopia, as now there is a clear purpose for Asteroids Karma, Juno and VAlentine.IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted May 22, 2007 12:59 PM
mars conjunct venus, utopia conjunct utopia, mars conjunct moon, sun conjunct neptune=love?IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 01:14 PM
Thank you, IQhunk,so you think we`ve met each other in a past life? Well, that would explain why he seems so familiar. What makes you think it was a master-apprentice-relationship? Because of the involvement of Mercury, Isis and Osiris? Or because Saturn, Neptune and Pluto are connected to Karma? Well, Neptune and Pluto could have something to do with occult things, it would fit. But can you say who would have been the master, and who the apprentice? Also, I checked the aspects, you mentioned, but didn`t found that much (only using conjunction, sextile, square, trine, opposition): There are only: His Valentine trine my Valentine (2) His Osiris trine my NN (1°) So, no love this time? DD IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 01:52 PM
I´ve looked also into those asteroids What would you say about these aspects? -His isis/osiris/karma trines my sun (0º); - His osiris squares my mercury and biquintiles my mars(-1a) -His karma squares my mars(2º) -His isis/osiris sqaures my Asc (1 and 0º); -His isis/osiris opposes my MC (0 AND 1º) -hIS isis/osiris conjunct my MC; -His MC conjuncts my VX; - KARMA sextiles my MC(-1a). -My Osiris bq his sun; quicunks mercury,semisquares venus;opposes jupiter; -My Union conjunct his AC (0º) -my Isis squares his Venus;oposes neptune;Trines pluto;semisextiles kiron and Asc. -My amor trines his jup;quintiles his kiron; -My karma oposes his moon;sextiles his merc;sqaures his jup;trines MC(0º) - My Valentine sextiles mercu;trines mars;inconjunct venus;squares jup;quindeciles saturn;trines MC
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sameesadiq Newflake Posts: 6 From: Pakistan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2007 04:23 PM
Hi Iqhunk,I don't know how to paste the charts. I do understand that pasting my data in text will increase your effort. Sorry for the inconvenience. My natal data is as under. Shaikh Samee Sadiq (male) born on 6 Feb 1963 local time 12:10 pm in Rawalpindi, PAK U.T. 07:10 73e04, 33n36 sid. time 21:05:05 PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree House Delinations Sun Aquarius 16°46'31 in house 10 15s49 Moon Cancer 19°08'21 end of house 2 21n07 Mercury Capricorn 22°13'35 in house 9 19s53 Venus Capricorn 00°28'43 in house 8 20s32 Mars Leo 14°13'53 r in house 4 20n55 Jupiter Pisces 16°26'47 in house 11 06s19 Saturn Aquarius 14°09'48 in house 10 17s20 Uranus Virgo 03°57'23 r in house 4 10n48 Neptune Scorpio 15°38'13 in house 6 14s50 Pluto Virgo 11°28'29 r in house 4 20n01 True Node Cancer 29°40'45 r in house 3 20n14 Chiron Pisces 09°00'07 in house 10 03S36 Vertex Scorpio 00°22'23 in house 06 P. Fortune Scorpio 05°15'28 in house 07 13S17 Lilith Libra 21°48'04 in house 06 Ceres Virgo 16°05'30 r in house 05
Pallas Cancer 06°26'24 r in house 02 Juno Virgo 25°53'00 r in house 05 Vesta Libra 00°33'18 in house 05 Pholus Aquarius 15°43'24 in house 10 Eris Aries 09°48'56 in house 11 Amor Aries 10°10'42 in house 11 Isis Leo 11°08'10 Aphrodite Gemini 19°53'13 r Sappho Scorpio 28°00'55 Karma Leo 13°41'02 r Eros Sagittarius 18°16'22 in house 07 Psche Scorpio 19°05'29 Lust Libra 18°34'17 Osiris Sagittarius 21°41'58 Anteros Capricorn 07°14'48 Valentine Leo 02°25'46 r DNA Scorpio 29°36'54 Amasis Libra 06°21'4 East point Taurus 18°43'55 HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus) Ascendant Gemini 02°53'37 20n45 2nd House Gemini 27°38'02 3rd House Cancer 19°49'38 Imum Coeli Leo 13°48'11 5th House Virgo 13°32'06 6th House Libra 21°41'29 Descendant Sagittarius 02°53'37 8th House Sagittarius 27°38'02 9th House Capricorn 19°49'38 Medium Coeli Aquarius 13°48'11 16s41 11th House Pisces 13°32'06 12th House Aries 21°41'29
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izodesmozina unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 05:10 PM
I hope you don't mind if I'll post a few more aspects . I don't want to abuse your helpfulness, so please, if you don't have the time, it is ok. Really. I recently found I have a secret admiror, who wrote me a poem in which he mentions Kali. Here are some of the aspects: (my planets first) -Sun quincunx Saturn (double-whammy) -Sun quincunx Karma -Sun sextile Psyche -SUN CONJUNCT SPIRIT (exactly!) -Moon quintile Moon -Moon trine Merc -Moon trine Ceres and Valentine -Moon conjunct Eros -Moon sextile Aura -Mercury conjunct Ceres and Pholus -Mercury trine Union -Mercury sextile Karma -Venus sextile Moon, Lilith and Pallas -Venus conjunct Venus and Cupido -Venus opposite Mars, Saturn and maybe Asc -Mars quintile Psyche, sextile Aura -Saturn quincunx Chiron (ouch) -Saturn sextile Valentine, trine Aura -Neptune trine Ceres and Valentine -Neptune conj Eros -Pluto quincunx Venus -Pluto opp Ceres, Pholus -Pluto sextile Eros, trine Aura -Chiron conj Sun, Venus, Chiron -Chiron square Union and Kaali -Vertex conj Valentine and Union, opp Aura -Ceres conj Psyche -Juno conj his Moon (!!) -Juno opposite KARMA (!!) -KARMA conj his SUN, NORTH NODE, CHIRON -Karma square Valentine and Aura -Valentine square Moon and Karma -Valentine trine Psyche, sextile Spirit -Psyche opp Venus -Psyche square Union and Kaali -Amor conj Aura and Kaali -Union trine Neptune, Eros, Valentine -Union opp Pluto -Union sextile Juno and Aura -Cupido trine Mercury and Amor -Cupido opp Juno -Spirit square Mercury, Saturn -Spirit sextile Uranus and Spirit -Spirit quincunx Karma -Aura quincunx Venus -Aura conj Neptune, Eros -Aura trine Ceres, Pholus, Union -Aura sextile Aura and Kaali -Kaali quincunx Mercury and Amor -Kaali trine Node N, Chiron -Kaali square Juno ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also, speaking of Kaali, I found another double-whammy with the Parts of Marriage (conjunction and opposition) ~ this is with the "soul mate" . We also have a Cupido-Psyche dw. Probably this is why I feel this telepathic link with him. We also have Telephus conjunctions (mine conj his Isis, his conj my Union).
What can you make of all this? THANK YOU!!
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cat71 unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 07:32 PM
Hello Again IQ! - Congrats on Baby Boy! When you have some time would you mind offering your wisdom in 'English' (LOL!) on these Sabian symbols for some synastry conjunctions: Her Amor conj. his Vertex = 25-26 deg Cancer - Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home Her Vertex conj. his Karma = 12-13 deg Capricorn - A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence Her True Node conj. his Utopia = 12-13 deg Aquarius - A Barometer Hers & His Psych’s conjunct = 2-3 deg Virgo - Two Guardian Angels Her Utopia conj. his Eros = 7-8 deg Capricorn - In A Sunlit Home Domesticated Birds Sing Joyously Her Chiron conj. his Venus = 13-14 deg Aries - A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman Thanx in advance IP: Logged |
misterhank unregistered
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posted May 22, 2007 11:07 PM
Here's My karma info... ------------------ Hank Campbell Far Rockaway, Queens, NY *Sun: 8th House/Leo, Moon: 3rd House/Pisces, Venus: 8th House/Leo, Mars: 6th House/Cancer, Jupiter: 8th House/Leo, Saturn: 8th House/Virgo, ASC: Capricorn "A gifted mind needs a gifted heart to sympathize others who are in vain." IP: Logged |
Taurus80 Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2007 12:29 AM
Iqu..what do you think of utopia conjunct someone elses NN? thanks IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 02:47 AM
Hi DD, THe Master-apprentice relationship would have gone both ways. I cannot explain in detail but these days I just seem to "get" some info when I scan a series of aspects. There is love for you thanks to a VAlentine trine but unless some strong Sun, Moon, Asc aspects exist, the other asteroids and placements will not sustain. Hi Diandra23, His aspects to you are 10 times more powerful because his Isis/Osiris/Karma trine your Sun. Had there been a similar action from your asteroids to his Moon or SUn or Asc, then this would have been a very powerful and interesting relationship. NOt to say that it wont be even now but there will have to be more work from his side. Your Valentine trine his Mars and Union conjunct his Asc will play a big role.
Hi Izo, Focus on your true soul mate dear. This relationship you posted is just a subtle one. See, there are no strong Asc, Moon and Sun ties. Quintiles and Quincunx dont hold a candle to a trine, square, opp or conjunction. Sun conjunct Spirit simply means your core personality identifies with his notion of spirituality. Juno opposite KARMA and KARMA conj his SUN, NORTH NODE are good placements if and only if the initial conditions were met. There is no use in saying that you can run the last 200 meteres of a 1500 meter race in 20 seconds. That is what asteroids are. The first 1300 meteres have to be run too and you cannot sleepwalk through them. You must have a strong Sun, Moon, Asc aspect (direct or linked thru Mars, Venus, Saturn, NN, Karma). Else checking the asteroids will only explain some subtle effects (like why he is your secret admirer. He will be a secret admirer of many women whose Sun or Moon or Isis or Venus lies in his 12th house.) So no distractions, focus on your true soul mate. Kaali double whammy is a gift from the Divine Mother, proving that you two were married in a past lifeline too. Hi Mr. Hank, You are destined to love in this lifeline but there will be severeal difficulties. 8th House KArma conj Venus in Leo is a very challenging aspect for a soul but it proves your spiritual evolutionary level. You chose this challenge and the more you spread love, peace, brotherhood, the more happiness/success for you. Hi T80, Utopia conj NN indicates that there is chance to find advanced satisfaction and contentment in the higher path of the NN person. Hi Cat71, will reply to the Sabians in a new string. IP: Logged |
Lana29865 unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 04:56 AM
Dear Iqhunk,As always, such a fountain of help and information. I have the astroid KARMA in Aquarius in my 7th house TRINE my Jupiter (11th house, in Gemini). How would you see that placement? Thanking you, Lana IP: Logged |
izodesmozina unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 05:29 AM
"So no distractions, focus on your true soul mate. Kaali double whammy is a gift from the Divine Mother, proving that you two were married in a past lifeline too."No distractions! I have just a couple of questions I asked on other threads - these are the last ones, I promise. -Venus parallel Valentine double-whammy: legit or not? -Isis conjunct Osiris in the Davison chart - I know you said you have this with your wife in the composite; would you think it has a similar effect in the Davison, too? It's a very tight conjunction (0* 06'), and they also conjunct Anubis... -I am also fascinated by the Sabians and would like your opinion on them, but I know you're very busy, so I'll ask you about this some other time. Thank you so much for everything! I am very, very grateful for all you have shared and for your advice! Best of wishes to you and your family! ------------------ I am an artist and my life is my masterpiece IP: Logged |
afroken unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 05:57 AM
um, where can i find out my karma placement?IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 06:03 AM
Hi Ana, I like the concept of Davison Chart but after seeing the composite effect on my family charts, I feel the composite is more accurate for me. In any case, Isis conj Osiris and Anubis with just 0.06 degree difference in any chart is a powerful indicator.Venus parallel Valentine double whammy is quite legit. I want you know that when my son was born, transit Asteroid Child was conjunct my natal Child. This is apart from all the other interconnections of Sun, Moon, Asc, Karma, True Node, Venus etc . So once you find your true soul mates, all astrological indicators will work in your favour. IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 06:04 AM
Hi Lana, <<I have the astroid KARMA in Aquarius in my 7th house TRINE my Jupiter (11th house, in Gemini). How would you see that placement? >> What is the exact degree of Karma and of Jupiter?IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 06:07 AM
IQhunk,thank you for your interpretation. You have such a lot to do nowadays, so I`m really thankful for your patience to reply to every question. Also, Ijust read you`ve become a father. So congratulations from me, too. The Sun-Moon-ASC-connections I found are those: His Sun conjuncts my Antivertex and Sun-Moon-midpoint My NN conjuncts his Sun-Moon-Midpoint His Moon / NN is widely sextile my Sun (3-4°) My Moon is conjunct his ASC (as is Psyche; actually the midpoint of my Moon-Psyche falls onto his ASC). Also: His Sun is exactly solstice conjunct and parallel my ASC Our Moons are closely parallel each other (and contraparallel each other`s Pluto) EDIT: His Sun is also parallel my NN, and my Moon is parallel his NN. don`t know if that`s important. DD IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 06:28 AM
IQHunk, I read you mentioned Karma at 5 degrees Taurus being a sign of widowhood. What does it mean when it's retrograde Taurus 5deg in an individual chart and composite? Thanks IP: Logged |
izodesmozina unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 06:51 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's like all the pieces of the puzzle fit together... Supporting this, I calculated the Ascendant for the time when I met him, it was 25* Cancer, making the DC 25*Capricorn. Venus at that time was at 25* Capricorn, so was Valentine, and the composite Juno is at 25* Capricorn also. My Asc is close by and so is his Mars... Yeah, I know what you mean... ------------------ I am an artist and my life is my masterpiece IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 07:34 AM
Sorry, I forgot the degrees:KARMA 23 deg. Aquarius Jupiter 27 deg. Gemini So, it's not the tight 1-2 deg. orb you've been talking about... Is there any importance in this trine, or should I just forget about it? It's the only aspect that Karma makes to my personal planets, and it's therefore tempting to see some meaning there... (Transiting Neptune is now 22 deg Aquarius i. e. conjunct my Karma). Lana IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 08:59 AM
Hi IqunkThanks for your view on this.I thought that if his aspects were more powerfull,then it was I that were have to work more torwards the relationship? Concerning my asteroids/Arabic Parts to his sun/moon/asc,are these: - My Lilith conjunct his moon(0a);Q mars -My Ceres conjunct his moon(0s);Q mars;Sextiles MC(´2a): -MY Pallas sqaures his sun(0a);conjuncts his isis(0º); -mY Vesta trines his moon(1a) - My Valent trine his moon(1a); - My Isis sextils Asc(0a);conjunct his 12th house ruller; -My karma opposes moon(-4a);trines MC;conjuncts his PF(2a);conjunct his juno;conjunct POM; -My khaali sextiles his sun(0s)-his kaali sqaures my moon(1a); - My amor conjuncts his 9th house ruller(2º); - My sun/moon mid conjunct his Love and POM; -MY ~POM conjuncts his sun/noon mid; -My Love conjunct his venus(1a);conjunct his PF; In the composite: - my marraige cojunct union(1º); - his POM conjunct 12h house ruller(aº); - my wedding widely conjunct Asc(4a) - Eros conjunct sun(1º); - venus conjunct sun; -My Isis conjunct Mean Node of composite(1º) - My karma conjunct Mean node of composite; - His POM conjuncts true node (1º); - My osiris conjunct UnION Of composite (1º); -His Valentine conjunct Amor of composite (1º) -
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