posted August 18, 2008 06:40 PM            

So, if Eros feels it more then a man's n eros squaring the woman's psyche (her eros also squares his psyche - both 1deg) and his dr eros opposes her dr moon/venus/saturn/NN/amor is going to be seriously intense and karmic, attraction wise?

posted August 18, 2008 07:04 PM            

Here is a great link to your Eros/Psyche by sign in synastry if you haven't already checked out the link. In my case, it's so accurate it's scary!!!

posted August 18, 2008 07:29 PM              

Kim Falconer has described the following on her website:

Pluto/Eros
Venus/Eros
Mars/Eros
Psyche/Eros
Moon/Eros
Neptune/Eros
Nodes/Eros

Anyone have further interpretations? I'd be interested in hearing about Saturn/Eros in conjunction in synastry, though I can imagine it would be quite the turn-off. I would also suspect that Uranus/Eros would be a bit of a clash - contrary desires and needs.

posted August 18, 2008 08:41 PM              

I found this from Kim on Ascendant/Eros contacts (however, it doesn't mention type of contact - so still no luck on squares).

"Eros seldom hides in this position and both people involved are likely to be pleasurably or painfully aware of each other in an erotic sense. Pleasurable while they pursue an intimate or creative relationship, painful if the taboos or circumstances make it difficult to acknowledge each other in that way.

Proximity or contact with each other can touch off a sense of self-awareness as well as sensitivity to the other creating a powerful impact on the couple. Any synastry aspect to the Ascendant effects attraction, and when this planet is Eros, it can feel like magic."

posted August 18, 2008 10:44 PM            

My SO and I have mutual Eros-Asc conjunctions. Since the conjunctions are mutual, I can't tell who feels the attraction of that aspect, but I agree with the theory you guys have going that it's the Eros person who is attracted, and that erotic energy can then bleed into the other person's planet when the planet is a receptive one. I think the Asc can function receptively.

With my first love, his Eros was conjunct my Psyche (1º). We had a lot of Eros aspects, mostly from his side. Besides the conj with Psyche, his Eros also opposed my Moon, squared my Uranus (both 0º), trined my Pluto (1º), and some others that don't seem as important astrologically. My Eros opposed his Mars and squared his Mercury (both 3º). Besides being my first love, we were also each others firsts sexually, so Eros was happy. Before meeting him, I had never experienced that "love at first sight" feeling so often depicted in movies. With him I had my first taste of intoxicating, instant attraction. It wasn't just a sexual thing though, we both really cared deeply about each other.

With a different ex, my Eros was significantly activated in synastry, while his wasn't. It's safe to say that the sexual attraction was mutual. I just thought of something. Rather than be necessary for sexual attraction, I think a stimulated Eros can indicate the type of attraction the Eros person feels. Eros wants to merge, it wants a Venus-Pluto 8th house kind of love, where the two people deeply connect, synthesize and therefore transform. Venus and Mars, on the other hand, is lustful, exciting, and magnetic. Venus and Mars want to keep playing with one another forever, the appetite may be insatiable but the only goal is to enjoy one another, whereas Eros wants to become something new with the other person, to create a "we" forever changing who you once thought of us your "me."

posted August 18, 2008 10:45 PM            

What makes it even better is that I've visited that site multiple times and I've almost always gotten a high match with Sienna Miller. So I'm the child they never got the chance to have! I think I'll show up on Jude's doorstep wearing a baby bonnet, my arms open for a hug, saying "Da da!" Since I have Cupido exactly conjunct my Sun, I'll go the whole nine yards and wear a diaper, as well.

posted August 20, 2008 01:55 PM              

thank you for the description of Eros / ASC. VERY interesting. Very.

"Eros seldom hides in this position and both people involved are likely to be pleasurably or painfully aware of each other in an erotic sense."
In the case of this guy, his ASC is trine my Eros (2°) and my ASC is square his Eros (1°).
I can not speak for him, but yes I was pleasurably and yet painfully aware of him in an erotic sense.

"Proximity or contact with each other can touch off a sense of self-awareness as well as sensitivity to the other creating a powerful impact on the couple."
Yes, even though the attraction was there before, it really became almost unbearable in its intensity, when we were in near proximity.

"I tend, however, to think that the Ascendant person is usually more the target of the planet rather than an equal participant in such aspects."
Yes, I agree, the ASC is just there, and the planet walks into its trap.
The ASC sometimes doesn`t even WANT To attract the other person, but she does nevertheless.

posted August 20, 2008 01:56 PM              

"I have Eros exactly conjunct my SN,"
I have it exactly conjunct my Vertex and exactly opposite Sun-Moon-mp. So definitely important for me, too.

"My SO and I have mutual Eros-Asc conjunctions."
That sounds very EROTIC. RAWRR.

"It wasn't just a sexual thing though, we both really cared deeply about each other."
That makes sense, since Eros is the son of mars AND Venus, so it`s both there, the compulsive urgent passion (Mars) mixed with the pleasure and affection Venus can bring.
I think above all Eros wants to merge and transform.

"Eros wants to merge, it wants a Venus-Pluto 8th house kind of love, where the two people deeply connect, synthesize and therefore transform. Venus and Mars, on the other hand, is lustful, exciting, and magnetic. Venus and Mars want to keep playing with one another forever, the appetite may be insatiable but the only goal is to enjoy one another, whereas Eros wants to become something new with the other person, to create a "we" forever changing who you once thought of us your "me."
THat is bloody brilliant, Jane.
Wow! I`m in awe, I can resonate with that description so much.

posted August 20, 2008 01:57 PM              

"You could feel that type of love and erotic attraction for someone w/o Eros, but there would probably need to be 8th house and Pluto action to compensate."
That makes sense. Do you think Eros alone could compensate for a lack of Venus-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Venus-Mars aspects or placements in the 8th house?
BTW my Mars and ASC (and Amor and Valentine) are in my crush`s 8th house. At least something.
(His Draco Sun and Draco Moon and tropical Juno are in my tropical 8th house, too).

"uess which actor I had a 74% match with? Jude Law!"
LOL You must be one beautiful woman!

" So I'm the child they never got the chance to have!"
Well, I hope you didn`t inherit their cheating ways and bad luck in relationships.

"I think I'll show up on Jude's doorstep wearing a baby bonnet, my arms open for a hug, saying "Da da!" Since I have Cupido exactly conjunct my Sun, I'll go the whole nine yards and wear a diaper, as well."
ROFL That was so funny!

Oh speaking of Cupido, his Cupido is conjunct my Mars, ASC, NN and Neptune. And my Draco Cupido is conjunct his ASC and Venus and Cupido. Whatever that means.

posted August 20, 2008 02:06 PM              

hmmmmmmmmmmmm still strong attraction though...

posted August 20, 2008 03:53 PM              

Well, my interpretation of Cupido?

I am not totally sure, but I am fascinated by the fact that there are actually 3 Erotes, highlighting different shades of love.

1. Eros
This one is emphasizing the passionate side, where you feel the urge to merge with someone. To me that feels like a mix of Venus, Mars and PLuto. Very intense and passionate. Overwhelming.
Oh also sensual, he needs to experience the loved one with his or her senses, touch them, smell them, a physical manifestation of the inner merging that is taking place.

2. Amor
This on highlights the emotional, caring, romantic, but sometimes also a bit platonic side of love. Amor is not sexual per se (I guess he can be, if the sexual encounter is fueled by deep feelings). Very idealistic.
To me this feels like a mix of Moon, Venus and Neptune. Very soft and gentle. He needs to touch the beloved within their heart and soul, not necessarily with his hands or body, but with his soul.

3. Cupido:
Now this one, all dressed in diapers, seems to be more of the playful, teasing kind. Mischievous. He`s flirting all the time. NOt too seriously though. And he likes to look at the object of affection (I hate the term "object" btw); probably this is a more aethetical thing, like he finds her or him beautiful and therefor likes to look at them and fuels a playful, lighthearted, exchange.
To me this feels like a mix of Venus, Mercury and maybe Uranus.

posted August 20, 2008 04:50 PM              

I don’t know Amor. But I'd be curious about how he would affect things natally. For example if someone had Amor conjunct their Descendant would that mean someone needed a true friend more than anything as their marriage partner? If someone had Amor on their Ascendant would it mean they wore their 'heart' (as in their softness) on their sleeve?

In synastry would Amor preclude sexual love if sexier aspects were not indicated elsewhere? Probably.

As to Cupido, that definitely does sound like the shallower side of love, which is a necessary addition to the equation I think. Although as an energy, it is still deeper than just looks. As I mentioned about Kim's interpretation above, it could be about seeing things.. so conjunct the Moon in synastry would mean Cupido would see the feelings of the Moon, or Cupido conjunct the Sun – they would see that person very well (and like what they see!)

And does Cupido in the natal chart show us where we are most attracted by the look of a thing? So Cupido conjunct Neptune might be a collector of beautiful crystals and other magical or mystical items, but not someone who'd want to express their Neptune energy by volunteering in hospices for the elderly so much.

What would you make of Cupido oppositions natally and in synastry? Cupido oppositions in the natal chart could indicate areas where we don't like what we see in ourselves or areas where the look of that part of us doesn't matter to us.

posted August 21, 2008 09:54 PM            

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I tend, however, to think that the Ascendant person is usually more the target of the planet rather than an equal participant in such aspects. So I would take this interpretation and skew it more towards the Eros individual. Though, I know most people tend to think of the Ascendant and the planets as equal participants.

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Well eros person will feel eroticised upon being around the asc person. The asc person will certainly feel it and will accept the compliment and returns the attraction through this.

However, my theory on asc-planet/asteroid aspects is that the asc person is a shell, image, hologram etc. It is a bit hollow on the inside such that they cannot initiate, they can only accept; they have no internal force/fire. They of course will appreciate the attention and look lovingly upon the planet-asteroid person but can't really initiate things. The initiator is the planet/asteroid person. So with eros in aspect to asc, eros will be thrilled and see asc as the ultimate erotic dream (in terms of appearance/projection) and asc person will know this. Asc person appreciates this and notifies the eros person about this and maybe even feels a bit of erotic attraction as well in an inactionable way. Of course, how the planet/asteroid person leads will be dependant on the planet/asteroid they are.

A really good example is the A-ha video clip, "Take on Me". She is the asc person, Morten is the planet person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMWXyEHoN88

Morten initiates by visiting her and getting her attention through a wink. She of course notices him first but there is not "action" on her part. She notices and is intruiged back at 0:57, and at 1:01 she is offered his hand. This is the planet person pulling her in. She accepts but he leads.

At 1:42, all she can do is put her hand on the screen that divides him but can't go through, she can't do what Morten does because she is the asc, a shell. And at 2:18/2:45 he takes control of her.

At 3:05 she is left with the paper again but has not control of the situation and at 3:19 he has to initiate again to merge in her dimension.

posted August 21, 2008 10:11 PM            

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What would one say about having eros conjunct eros 0 degrees?

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Well then your erotic ideals are completely the same and each other is able to supply the erotic ideal to the other. Both will be turned on by the same idea and the other.

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I'd be interested in hearing about Saturn/Eros in conjunction in synastry, though I can imagine it would be quite the turn-off.

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Not necessarily, conj is both positive and negative. Can be quite love-hate. It might be a turn-off for eros in that saturn will be negate/refuse to accept the erotic attraction or the eros person might be attracted to the person's stability, practicalities, stamina etc or view the person even as a father-figure type erotic attraction. Now the square might be a bit more difficult.

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Eros seems like a conjuction between Mars/Venus actually was the son of Venus and Ares and it seems true because Eros was discovered on Acuarius (androgenus sign), and I think the most erotic aspects are with Mars and Venus, and I think more with Venus, because the relation between Venus/Eros in mythology.

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posted August 22, 2008 12:28 PM              

"I don’t know Amor."
It`s unconditional love.

"ample if someone had Amor conjunct their Descendant would that mean someone needed a true friend more than anything as their marriage partner?"
It`s more than friendship. It`s loving the other one with all of your heart, but that love does not necessarily includes sextual attraction. It can be a loving bond with family members or friends, too. But it also can happen in a marriage.

" If someone had Amor on their Ascendant would it mean they wore their 'heart' (as in their softness) on their sleeve?"
Yes, maybe. Or maybe they love themselves.

"In synastry would Amor preclude sexual love if sexier aspects were not indicated elsewhere? Probably."
It doesn`t necessarily preclude them. It just doesn`T further them either. So if there really are no sexual aspects, then a strong Amor-connection might lead to a lot of compassion, forgiveness and love without including sex. Yes, that makes sense.

"As to Cupido, that definitely does sound like the shallower side of love, which is a necessary addition to the equation I think."
It may not be as deep as the others. But I like it.

"As I mentioned about Kim's interpretation above, it could be about seeing things.."
I never understood what that means. Seeing as in understanding?

"What would you make of Cupido oppositions natally and in synastry? Cupido oppositions in the natal chart could indicate areas where we don't like what we see in ourselves or areas where the look of that part of us doesn't matter to us."
Why is that?
Oppositions are very energetic aspects. So I might think what we see through an opposition may be very intriguing to us, even though it`s completely different from what we thought we might see. The opposition is not an aspect of dislike.

"Cupido opposition Venus in synastry might be weird."
Why? Because she was his mother?
Well, she was Eros` mothr, too, and a Venus-Eros-aspect is REALLY erotic. And not incestuous. Also, many married gods and goddesses were also brother and sister (like Juno and Jupiter for example); it just signifies that the bond works on different levels.

" Cupido opposition Pluto might mean two people who are beauty and the beast together, you know when you fall for someone who is so not-your-type physically or in looks."
Yes, I like that,t oo.

What do you think, who would fall for whom?
Cupid for Pluto?

posted August 22, 2008 12:49 PM              

wow, I am woverwhelmed. You know so much!

"Well eros person will feel eroticised upon being around the asc person. The asc person will certainly feel it and will accept the compliment and returns the attraction through this."
Absolutely agreed.

"such that they cannot initiate, they can only accept; they have no internal force/fire."
Yes, they are receptive. They can only receive, not give.
(all housecusps are like that actually)

" So with eros in aspect to asc, eros will be thrilled and see asc as the ultimate erotic dream (in terms of appearance/projection)"
That sounds great.
What would you say about his ERos in Pisces square her Sagittarius ASC and her Eros in Cancer trine his Pisces ASC? His Eros falls into her 3rd house (4th house in equal), while her ERos falls into his 5th house (and in equal her Eros is in his 4th house conjunct his 5th house cusp).
How would that play out?
(They have a mutual reception between chartrulers from Pisces to Sagittarius actually, and she has Neptune conjunct ASC, so I guess that might give some common ground).

"be even feels a bit of erotic attraction as well in an inactionable way."
Is it like when you start really liking someone, just when you notice how much he is drawn to you? (of course there had to be a basic interest before)

"A really good example is the A-ha video clip, "Take on Me"."
I LOVE that video.
I still love it after so many years. And I even loved the fact that he reached out for her and drawing her into his world and then also reached out to her, so he could come into her world.

"t to get to know the person, but I don't think there is any intensity/depth to do with pluto."
The thing he has in common with Pluto, though, is that we become deeply transformed. Just in Eros`case the choice of his "weapons" are different. In this case we become transformed by love and lust and I do t hink this is intense, even though not as dark as Pluto`s obsessions.

What about a conjunction of his Eros to her Pluto and an exact square of his Pluto to her Eros. Would she been extremely unsettled by his darker expressions?
It`s even relationship-relevant, as his Pluto is in his 7th house and her Eros in his 5th (for her it is her Eros in her 8th house and his Pluto in her 10th house).
In the case of the Eros-Pluto-conjunction it`s on her MC and falls into his 7th house.