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Lara
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posted August 27, 2008 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haybelly ,

Dont post your chart directly from ASTRO... it allows anyone to view your account there and even mess around with it!

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posted August 27, 2008 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh bad bad....how do I get it off of here?


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posted August 27, 2008 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fixxed it

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posted August 27, 2008 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Better upload the chart onto photobucket.com and copy it here from photobucket.

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posted August 27, 2008 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is there a better way to see the example above? How would you interpret it? That the Sun is attracting Anteros/Moon by being the Sun (by sign and house) and then Anteros/Moon would try and reflect these back to appeal to the Sun? Or is the Sun enchanted by its own reflection more?

Yes the sun attracts Anteros/Moon but I think the anteros person would be actively seeking out the sun. The sun is too egotistical to seek out anyone but he is glad to shower sunlight upon those that do and as you say, he probably does like looking at himself in a mirror (think of a leo preening in front of a mirror). I think the Aneteros person is the acting one, he seeks. With moon attached, it makes it a bit different as this person will most likely follow the sun, moon always submits to sun.

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posted August 28, 2008 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So if Aries rules the conjunction, you need to take two energies and find a common direction/goal in order to blend them?

And the square (what is the difference b/t a higher and lower square?) is ruled by Capricorn/Cancer. So, you have to find a way to overcome limits/restrictions and emotions caused by the square?

I wonder if the reason Saturn squares seem to be the worst is because it rules them?

Does this make sense?


Yes I think the conj is the blending or somehow unification of the two, to convert maybe into something new (aries starts the cycle).

I thought that maybe the higher square is something like a grand cross, higher trine the grand trine etc

Yes with squares, they generate emotion I guess and that is why cancer might rule it. As for the higher square being ruled by cap, I suspect that is to with cap being the hard worker. Caps persist, have stamina are relatively patient and meticulous. I suppose these are the qualities that are required in a couple to overcome this, not to mention the person themselves (who might have these qualities how have this pattern in their natal chart).

Yes, interesting about saturn squares, that might be the reason why they are considered the "worst". The worst ones are mars-saturn (1st v10th), moon-saturn (4th v 10th), venus-saturn (7th v 10th).

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posted August 28, 2008 06:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks 23.


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posted August 28, 2008 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
23,

You're the astro bomb, baby!

That's definitely something I've never heard of, but it sure makes sense.

I know we talked about this on another thread...did you say you do or don't believe in composite charts?

I have a DOOZY consisting of nothing but stelliums in a grand cross. Saturn squares pretty much everything.

Dunno...whatdaya think? Doomed?

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posted August 28, 2008 10:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a synastry what would it indicate if there is a double whammy Eros opposite Psyche?

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posted August 29, 2008 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know we talked about this on another thread...did you say you do or don't believe in composite charts?

I have a DOOZY consisting of nothing but stelliums in a grand cross. Saturn squares pretty much everything.

Dunno...whatdaya think? Doomed?


Well composites are supposed to describe a third entity, not the party themselves but the relationship. I occasionally look at composites but usually look at synastry because synastry is concerned with how the parties relate and if they relate well, then a bad composite can be overcome. I have a shocking composite with my partner (t-squares, one involving moon and the other the sun and an unaspected venus) but we've got pretty good synastry. Things have been tough in our relationship, that is the composite, but I feel happy with my partner and he is my best friend, so the synastry is good. So you can see how it overcomes a bad composite.

I have to find some links but I read that composite is pretty much a new invention. It's been said that the origins of the composite was in Germany in the 1930's but became fashionable in the US in the 1970's. From there, it spread to the rest of the world.

What do you mean about the stelliums, do you mean in synastry or natally? If synastry, then it isn't fatal. I've noticed a lot of couples with squares because the square is the action in the relationship that gets them to overcome things and gives them enough tension to get along. Friendships are often composed of positive aspects. A lot couples have quite bad saturn squares actually.

Natally, a saturn square means that maybe you have tension within you concerning discpline in certain areas in your life that need to be constantly dealt with and resolved. Natally, people with a lot of squares are active, they get things done cf people with a lot of trines are "lazier" and wait for things to happen for them (cf cancer v leo)
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posted August 29, 2008 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In a synastry what would it indicate if there is a double whammy Eros opposite Psyche?

Well a double whammy would increase the volume of the result of these two aspects. Eros opp psyche is a tension that can be negotiated by the two. Which houses the two are placed in synastrically (house overlays) and which sign they are in will colour the interaction and how each party is attractive to each other. Eros will erotically seek out psyche, psyche acts like venus. Eros will find psyche and realise that she has the qualities that he is looking for but in the opposite sense. Nevertheless, Eros will find psyche very attractive and will seek a relationship with her.

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posted August 29, 2008 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also 8th, if you look at the saturn squares, 10th rules the MC. we can say that is the direction of the relationship in a "natural chart" (natural chart - where the ASC is 0 deg Aries).
So if there is tension with the natural ruler of the 1st (mars), then one person's attitude, projection, drives in life is in tension with the direction. Likewise with the 4th, someone's past or very personal part of themselves is, the 7th- how someone interacts with the other in a partnership.

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posted August 29, 2008 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.bartleby.com/65/er/Eros-god.html

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Eros, in Greek religion and mythology


(rīs, rī–) (KEY) , in Greek religion and mythology, god of love. He was the personification of love in all its manifestations, including physical passion at its strongest, tender, romantic love, and playful, sportive love. According to some legends he was one of the oldest of the gods, born from Chaos and personifying creative power and harmony. In most legends he was the son of Aphrodite and Ares and was represented as a winged youth armed with bow and arrows. In Greek poetry Eros was often a willful and unsympathetic god, carelessly dispensing the frenzies and agonies of love. At Thespiae and at Athens he was worshiped as a god of fertility. In Hellenistic and Roman myth, he was represented as a naked, winged child, the son and companion of Venus. To the Romans he was Cupid, or Amor. Eros was sometimes attended by his brother, Anteros, who was said to be the avenger of unrequited love or the opposer of love. See also Psyche.

http://www.bartleby.com/65/ps/Psyche.html

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The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-07.

Psyche


(sīk) (KEY) , in Greek mythology, personification of the human soul. She was so lovely that Eros (Cupid), the god of love, fell in love with her. He swept her off to a beautiful, isolated castle but forbade her to look at him since he was a god. When she disobeyed, he abandoned her, but she ceaselessly searched for him, performing difficult and dangerous tasks, until at last she was reunited with him forever and made immortal.

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Hi 23, How do you think a person with Psyche conjunct their South Node in the 6th house would respond to an Eros/Psyche oppostion in synastry?

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REgarding composite:

Have you already looked at your Davison?
I`d be interested to learn how it works for you, because in every case I looked at it, it depicted the relationship much more accurately (especially regarding karmic issues or outer circumstances) than the composite.

With me it`s often like that: the composite is what I WANT to have, but the Davison is the what I actually HAVE. And believe me it`s often a much harder nut to crack. But also sometimes gets my head spinning.

But all in all I`d rely on synastry far more than either Composite or Davison.

(Also, if you look at Davison, be honest with yourself, because it probably will be a bit painful to look at it and you will want to throw it away instantly; at least it is usually in my case).

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posted August 29, 2008 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 29, 2008 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi 23, How do you think a person with Psyche conjunct their South Node in the 6th house would respond to an Eros/Psyche oppostion in synastry

Well with psyche being on the SN, the person would already have had psyche issues in a previous life or at least have a highly developed psyche qualities in this life. Thus they may have a great desire to find eros, maybe more so than the average person (or maybe they may have found him in a previous life if lucky?). 6th house is to do with service and mundane elements of life, so that is where the person will express their psyche. Maybe they seek an eros to serve. If this person has then a eros-psyche opp is synastry then this person might respond more strongly to the eros person than the average. In this case, there will be a negotiable tension between the two. I assume that eros person would have their eros on psyche person's NN so that means Eros person would be erotically turned out by the direction that the NN person is going in, NN person would see the potential of using the eros person's erotic energies to propel them in a NN direction. However, their psyche will want to pull them back to the status quo, hence the tension.

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Thanks for the interpretation 23. I think I'd agree about an enhanced Psyche seeking her Eros more than others.

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posted January 13, 2009 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 20, 2009 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about eros quintiles

(eros quintile someones venus, etc.)
would count or no?

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posted February 06, 2009 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thread.

How much would house overlays matter in Eros synastry?

I have an attraction to someone that I think might be one-sided (not sure though, very confused about these things lately). We have an Eros-Mars conjunction. He is the Eros person (Eros in Virgo in his 11th house), and I am the Mars person (Mars in Virgo, my 8th)? So would the details of the house placements make me feel the erotic pull more?

His Eros is also opposed to my Jupiter (at 0 degrees), semisquare my Venus and MC, and sextile my Saturn.

My Eros falls into his 7th house and is opposed to his Sun and Mercury.

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My Eros is in 10 in Gemini @ 22 degrees

My Venus/Mars Midpoint is in that sign too

I like Gemini's and they were good sex partners for me...

My current girl has Eros @ 3aqua square my Pluto...

There's passion, I like her, but I don't think it will be long term... But I enjoy the moment...

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posted February 22, 2009 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i really can't find the aspect talked about in this topic (looked through 3 pages)

have i missed out anything about Moon opposition Eros aspect? (synastry)?

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posted August 03, 2009 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i have my eros in aries coujnuct venus exactly cojunct.in the 9th house

it cojunct my venus
squares my uranus
square neptune
square jupiter
square chiron
square ceres
quincunx my pluto

eros is in sagittarius 17.39 in house 1
eros conjunct uranus
eros sextile jupiter
eros trine moon
eros square cere
eros square part of fortune
eros opposite pallas


together eros trines my eros
eros trines my ascendant
eros trine my vesta
eros trine my venus

my eros sextile chiron
my eros trine eros
my eros trine uranus
my eros square mercury
my eros conjunct moon

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posted September 17, 2009 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bumping so i can read it comfortably at home

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