posted October 12, 2009 06:18 PM            

Algol or medusa 149? Does I have wrong?

I belive that you and I togheter would make a good working team to get a better world

posted October 12, 2009 06:23 PM            

the questions you posed are suited for a philosophical debate. But then again they were no real questions, were they?

Anyway, what I believe or what I donīt believe is not important here.
All I was doing is trying to switch perspective a bit and try to see this thread with the eyes of someone who does not believe.
That is not the same as saying I don`t believe.
You are an actor. You know the difference.

Anyway, you are probably right, who would read that topic, if they donīt believe or are interested in that Reptilian stuff.
But then again this is an astroforum.

BTW I am pretty sure that we are being programmed; but to see and believe that, noone has to believe in Reptilians.

"And if you can show me that my beliefs are unfounded"
Why should I want to do that?

"you've stopped."
Well, who tells you I have stopped?

" Ask your mom why she wont stop eating foods high in fat and sugar."
Actually she doesn`t eat fat and sugar.

"Ask your neighbor tomorrow why they watch the news."
I cannot speak for everyone of course, and there are still a lot of people who watch the news, because they have always done so, because their parents have done so and they have done it together which gave them a feeling of togetherness as family, because they (mistakenly) feel they are informed about what is going on in the world.

Anyway, as a matter of fact I very very rarely watch the news.
And if I do, I am sometimes or even often surprised at how obvious it is that the way they present the news, they pick the news to tell is meant to manipulate us into a certain thinking.
It is actually an offense for anyone`s intelligence, I sometimes feel.

"Perhaps but in order to do that, you must believe that there is a possibility that you are a puppet before you can learn how to cut your strings."
That is what I just said, isn`t it?

"I dont know about you but I am not going to be sitting outside there house crying when they have past either."
Well, I am sad for every person that dies. So I would be sad for that unknown singer, too.

"But some do....there is a reason, acting crazy like that....that is not normal no matter what people say..."
Who defines what is normal`?
For me it is very normal to feel compassion.

"They believe in God"
Who are them?
It is an overgeneralization.
There are people who believe in God, people who believe in Reptilians, people who believe in the chakra system, people who believe in Allah, people who believe in Jehova, people who believe in Mammon, and there are people who claim to believe in nothing, people who will only believe what they see, and others who will see what they believe, and others will believe in what they feel.

I think I may have started with the generalization in my previous post, so I apologize for that.

"Why wouldnt you believe in what they believe in?"
Who tells you I don`t?
But I don`t believe in anything, just because someone tells me so. WAsn`t that what you said yourself some posts ago?

"Is it crazier than the belief in a Devil named Satan Ironically Satan means the "Father of Lies"?"
Who sais I believe in the Devil?

"I was wondering what your Kaali aspects "
Well, they are pretty strong.

posted October 12, 2009 07:22 PM            

I agree with the things that you said and made points about.

"All I was doing is trying to switch perspective a bit and try to see this thread with the eyes of someone who does not believe."
I do that with reincarnation,pastlives. I do believe in those things, but I do like to give alternative viewpoints about things. I do believe in genetics and evolution.

I believe in God. I am a pantheist which means one that believes that all is god and god is in all. It's also connected to my belief in Astrology. I also don't believe that it's wrong for others to have their belief in God in the Christian,Jewish,or Islam way. That's their beliefs. Who am I to judge? One of the reasons that I joined Spiritual Life Center is because of the free thinking nature of the church. It's openminded,broadminded,encourages free thinking and critical thinking. It's about many paths leading to the divine.

I watch and read the news a lot because I am very curious. I want to learn what's going on in the world and just like current events. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad.

I am curious about a lot of things. I want to know the why,the what,the where,the how. I will look up stuff to see what people are talking about. I will do my own research.

I really think that all this comes down to is to each his own

we all have different perceptions about things and that doesn't mean that one of us right and the other is wrong.

but yeah, I don't believe in Reptilians and the alien conspiracy theory stuff, but I won't say that they are wrong to believe in it. I won't say that they are crazy. Those are relative perceptions.

I believe in infinite parallel universes,and that would get me seen as being crazy by a lot of people. I believe that the dreamworld is a a real live matrix where we all can connect,and that can get me seen as being crazy by a lot of people. I believe in Astrology, and well..no comment. You get the picture.

I do believe in the possibility that there are other planets that have life on them. Astronomers have already discovered over 100 planets outside our solar system. They will definitely find more. With millions,billions of stars, there are likely to be millions,billions of extrasolar planets.

I wouldn't be stating stuff as truth or fact without stuff to back it up. I'd state it as an opinion,belief,a view,or what I think.
If I am skeptical about something or just plain disagree, I will offer alternative viewpoints that anybody can choose to read,listen to or ignore.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 12, 2009 08:26 PM            

the questions you posed are suited for a philosophical debate. But then again they were no real questions, were they?"

Not really just designed evoke thoughts in people who other wise may have not given that train of thought any energy.

"Anyway, what I believe or what I donīt believe is not important here.
All I was doing is trying to switch perspective a bit and try to see this thread with the eyes of someone who does not believe.
That is not the same as saying I don`t believe.
You are an actor. You know the difference."

Thats fine I understand. As well you should. Sorry if I came off too strong.
That was not my intentions.

"BTW I am pretty sure that we are being programmed; but to see and believe that, noone has to believe in Reptilians."

Its just sad that other people can't see it and take there activities of daily life for granted. But I guess all is as it should be.
And you are right you don't. No one has too. There is just a possibility thats all.

And I just would like people to instead of just saying its all just your opinion. To offer some other train of thought that has worked for them instead of negating mine, offer something better. Otherwise people who live in glass houses should be careful when they throw stones.

"And if you can show me that my beliefs are unfounded"
Why should I want to do that?"

Im just saying that because there seems to be a need lately for me to explain everything I say or Glaucus resents me saying it. And sometimes I just cant because what I said was born out of me, and my own experiences, from my own reasoning abilities and all I can tell you is that it works. And if you would like to offer me something new that works better, Im down for it.

"you've stopped."
Well, who tells you I have stopped?"

I know me either. Proof again that there is something up with that. If I dont eat McDonalds for like 4 months, I will inevitably have someone eat it in front of me and all of sudden I will start craving it again. I can only imagine that that must be heightened by commercial ads. But it all boils down to the fact that that food is like poison to our systems. Why is it even an option......

" Ask your mom why she wont stop eating foods high in fat and sugar."
Actually she doesn`t eat fat and sugar."

Well you know what I mean, I meant like someone close you. lol

"Ask your neighbor tomorrow why they watch the news."
I cannot speak for everyone of course, and there are still a lot of people who watch the news, because they have always done so, because their parents have done so and they have done it together which gave them a feeling of togetherness as family, because they (mistakenly) feel they are informed about what is going on in the world.

Anyway, as a matter of fact I very very rarely watch the news.
And if I do, I am sometimes or even often surprised at how obvious it is that the way they present the news, they pick the news to tell is meant to manipulate us into a certain thinking.
It is actually an offense for anyone`s intelligence, I sometimes feel."

For sure it is. It sad that people even watch it period. But everyone has freewill.

"Perhaps but in order to do that, you must believe that there is a possibility that you are a puppet before you can learn how to cut your strings."
That is what I just said, isn`t it?"

Yes ....*tail between legs* ...*innocent look*

"I dont know about you but I am not going to be sitting outside there house crying when they have past either."
Well, I am sad for every person that dies. So I would be sad for that unknown singer, too.

"But some do....there is a reason, acting crazy like that....that is not normal no matter what people say..."
Who defines what is normal`?
For me it is very normal to feel compassion."

Yeah but there is a big difference between crazy and compassion.

"Is it crazier than the belief in a Devil named Satan Ironically Satan means the "Father of Lies"?"
Who sais I believe in the Devil?"

You know what I mean, lol I meant that they wouldnt believe in a Chakra system but they will take the idea of Devil because its told to them at an early age. Its all programming, instilled and passed down from generation to generation.

posted October 12, 2009 08:36 PM            

Perhaps we could see where we can actually have placements similiar to the Presidents who founded and have ran America.

For sure strong Venus-Kaali Bloodlines give evidence of enhanced Psychic abilities and other supernatural functions as access to other dimensions of reality come naturally. And are very necessary I would imagine..

posted October 13, 2009 04:48 AM            

[ISIS on 8.3 Cap conjunct OSIRIS on 7.5 Cap. conjunct VENUS on 6 Cap]

sextiles
[PHOLUS on 6.4 Pisces conjunct HORUS On 8.0 Pisces conjunct ISHTAR on 8.2 Pisces conjunct CERES on 9.3 Pisces conjunct JUPITER on 11.1 Pisces]

trines
[LILITH on 6.3 Virgo conjuncts HEKATE On 8.0 Virgo]

trines
LUCIFER on 6.4 Taurus

That is a Kite, including a Grand Trine in Earth, and the "arrow" of this Kite is the Horus/Pholus/Ishtar/Ceres-conjunction in Pisces.

posted October 13, 2009 05:03 AM            

My stance is that whether the reptillian theories are true or not, I'm just not interested in them. Everyone is subject to programming in some way. It's unavoidable. Whether it just be religious, national patriotism, familial, sexual, social, and we can go on and on. Even astrological.

posted October 13, 2009 05:09 AM            

Kaali and Ceres 26.41 & 26.06 degrees Pisces opposite Pluto and Hekate on 25.38 & 25.43 degrees Virgo.

posted October 13, 2009 07:34 AM            

I absolutely agree with you.

I neither believe nor disbelieve in the Reptilian-theory.
I remain open to all possibilities, but I choose to focus on the positive in my life, and I try to be aware when I am being programmed, cause this awareness allows a certain detachment of it, maybe even deprogramming to a certain part. Not absolutely, maybe, but it is a start.

posted October 13, 2009 07:43 AM            

"I do that with reincarnation,pastlives. I do believe in those things, but I do like to give alternative viewpoints about things. I do believe in genetics and evolution."
Yes, I think it`s important from time to time to remember that there are many ways of interpreting things or many beliefs, which do not need to be the same as ours. It reminds me that even though I may believe in something firmly, in the end it`s just relative.

"I am a pantheist which means one that believes that all is god and god is in all."
Yes, that is my view on God, too. So no old man with white beard for me.

"That's their beliefs. Who am I to judge?"
Exactly.
We have a right to our belief, as have others, too.

" It's about many paths leading to the divine."
My Sag-stellium likes that thought.

"I do believe in the possibility that there are other planets that have life on them."
I think that is actually very likely. That is nothing I would doubt.

posted October 13, 2009 07:56 AM            

Kaali @ 26 Taurus (12th house)

- conjunct Amor @ 25 Taurus (12th)

- opposite Ceres (rx) @ 24 Scorpio (6th)

- directly trine Moon @ 26 Capricorn (8th house)

- directly sextile Angel @ 26 Pisces (10th house)

- sextile Nessus @ 25 Cancer (2nd house)

- directly quincunx Neptune (rx) @ 26 Sagittarius (7th house)

posted October 13, 2009 09:36 AM            

Less than 1 degree aspects:
- Sun/Kaali conjunction (Aries);
- Sun/Kaali semi-sextile Horus (Pisces);
- Osiris/Angel conjunction (Libra) oppose Sun/Kaali and quincunx Horus;
- Lucifer (Gemini) trine Angel/Osiris, sextile Sun/Kaali, square Horus;
- Siva (Libra) trine Jupiter (Aquarius);

Less than 2 degrees aspects:
- Chiron (Gemini) conjunct Lucifer (less than 3 degrees), trine Angel/Osiris, sextile Sun/Kaali, square Horus;
- Sun/Kaali and Osiris/Angel square Neptune;
- Horus trine Pluto, sextile Neptune;
- Isis square Uranus;

- Lucifer/Chiron are on the MC, while Horus is on the DC.

posted October 13, 2009 10:19 AM            

Kaali @ 14 Sagittarius (7th house)

- directly conjunct Mercury (rx) @ 14 Sag (7th)

- conjunct South Node @ 15 Sag (7th)

- conjunct Jupiter @ 15 Sag (7th)

- sextile Venus, Mars and Fortuna @ 13, 15 and 16 Libra (5th house)

- directly quincunx Moon @ 14 Cancer (2nd house)

- opposite NN @ 15 Gemini (1st house)

- trine Nessus @ 14 Leo (3rd house)

- sextile Lucifer @ 14 Aquarius (9th house)

Our Asc/Desc axis' are conjunct @ 10 (me) and 11 (him) Gemini/Sag, with both of our Ascendants conjunct fixed star Aldebaran and Descendants conjunct Antares.

posted October 13, 2009 12:40 PM            

For now, we can enjoy the Astrological Secrets being revealed here. Just look at the strong KAALI placements in your son's father's chart!
Your own KAALI is quite powerful in a psychic way thanks to the Pluto and Neptune connection. However, its conjunction to fixed star ALGOL in 12th means that in one past lifeline, you were a victim of human sacrifice.

Comica,
Sun conj KAALI = Very strong Kundalini Potential and native may be regularly visited by Astral Entities. When this is in a water sign, native can be programmed from the Astral Plane to behave in a certain way that goes against conscious will.
Yours is in Aries and the Dark facets of divine feminine energies seem to be nullified in Macho Aries sign. Notice that not even one President has ISIS in Aries.
3 Presidents have KAALI in Aries.
One is Ulyssus Grant, born on a 27 which is numerologically 9, ruled by Aries.
Another is Chester Arthur, and we know he is special as he has KAALI aspect 3 Masonic Dieties viz Isis, Osiris and Horus.
The third is Grover Cleveland born on an 18th which again is a 9 and ruled by Aries.

posted October 13, 2009 03:48 PM            

dr. KAALI trine n. Ascendant
dr. KAALI quincunx n. Mercury
dr. KAALI opp n. OSIRIS
dr. KAALI quincunx n. ISIS
dr. KAALI sextile n. DNA

dr. OSIRIS conjunct n. Venus
dr. HORUS oppose n. Sun
dr. ANGEL trine n. ATLANTIS
dr. LOGOS conjunct n. T. Node

dr. SIVA conjunct n. SEKHMET
dr. SIVA quincunx n. Ascendant
dr. SIVA sextile n. Neptune
dr. SIVA trine n. Pluto
dr. SIVA sextile n. Mercury

Natal KAALI 11 Aquarius

posted October 13, 2009 04:20 PM            

I checked the transit of KAALI and guess what I found: tr. KAALI conjunct my Mars in Scorpio!!

and I said "you little b****, so it was you!" LOL.

posted October 13, 2009 05:09 PM            

just curious

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 13, 2009 08:15 PM            

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I dont think your son's father is nuts.

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He'd be very happy to hear you say that, Iq! His ideologies, visions and stories generally tend to be unpopular (because of the open, eager, and child-like way he expresses them, I think) and he's spent most of his life the odd-man out. He's even estranged from his immediate family as a result of his general "oddness." But when *I* call him "kind of nuts," I mean it affectionately- his psychic sensitivity was the thing that attracted him to me in the first place! He believes in the things he says so wholly that it's next to impossible not to take them to heart.

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Most people who see reptilian shape shifters do not live to tell the tale. My Serbian mentalist contact is one of the few survivors. Stewart Swerdlow is another.

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Woww. I had no idea it was so rare to survive an encounter like that. Earlier in this thread the assertion was made that reptilians generally only attack others with Reptilian blood- does that seem to be the case with Moonie(my son's nickname)'s dad? Luckily for him (and he is a very, very lucky person in general) a car turned down the dark road after the first cut and the "man" grabbed his backpack (which only had about 10 bucks, some cans to recycle for coins and camping gear in it) and ran away. He flagged the car down and was brought to a hospital. His wound was moderately superficial-- only needed a few stitches.

Another question, and I hope this isn't off topic, but:

Are near death experiences symptomatic of Kaali? Moonie's father has had several, many more than what I would consider "normal." He mysteriously "drown" in a bathtub when he was 5 (quotations because no water was found in his lungs, although he was pulled from under the water) and was legally dead for several minutes. He says it was after this experience that he first began to have visions, see entities, etc. That's also when he first became aware of his spirit guide, a small black dog, which I've actually seen dart around out of the corner of my own eyes several times in his presence.

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Anyway, at the right time all secrets will be revealed to mankind.

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He says the exact same thing! I wonder what your synastry is like? Very interesting.

quote:

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Your own KAALI is quite powerful in a psychic way thanks to the Pluto and Neptune connection. However, its conjunction to fixed star ALGOL in 12th means that in one past lifeline, you were a victim of human sacrifice.

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posted October 13, 2009 09:53 PM            

Need time to process it all, so will comment properly later on.

Great to see so much research being undertaken.
The notion that Kaali is involved and shows up prominently in powerful individuals/individuals seeking power is irrefutable thanks to IQ's relentless analysis of countless charts.

The statistics are truly telling.
Have you been looking at any other datasets, Mr. explorer?

ORBM great idea for people to share their placements - so far for those of you with direct Kaali/Sun conjuncitons, or heavily aspected kaali in your natal - are there any patterns emerging in regards to it's manifestation in your life?

For example, the previously stated one of not
necessarily being more actively psychic, but perhaps more psychically aware and open (to other entities, such as astral, for example) in particular?

posted October 14, 2009 05:16 AM            

The entity or energy of Kaali is 10 times more powerful than Venus, Venus is felt in the charts through sheer physical gravity of the planet.
Divine Feminine = ISIS on the bright side and KAALI on the dark side, both agaion having a negative and positive to them.
Isis, Kaali, Osiris, Siva, Horus and Anubis they will be felt only after awareness of the Spirit is felt by a native.
This awareness for Kaali is naturally stronger when reptilian DNA is closer to 50%, as in the illuminati and their monarch slaves/reptilian competitors/commitee of 300.
I was actually expecting to see a stronger ISIS as well but that may come in the higher ups charts, those bigger than the US Presidents.

This is my 2nd exhaustive data set. Recall that I had analyzed most of the Anglo Saxon monarchs, thats where the first evidence of Kaali's natal infleunce was seen.

For the the third data set, I am collecting all known illuminati like Pindar Rothschild.
I dont think you have seen this discovery, I posted in another thread.
Founder of Rothschild dynasty Mayer Amschel, he has KAALI in 29.2 Libra and he lived to be 111 years. Doyen of banking and allegedly a "Pindar" of the 13 illuminati families. The next such doyen was Guy de Rothschild, a well known Pindar, and he lived to be 98. He has SIVA in 29.1 Libra. What are the odds?