posted February 23, 2009 10:06 AM              

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izodesmozina So far I would say it is nothing to worry about it - no cold bloodedness or scaley skin for you, you lucky girl. You might have ancestral ties to both Atlantis and Lemuria,which may work at odds with each other, needing integration in order for you to utilize the best of both -one theory states that Atlantis was responsible for the destruction of Lemuria, and thus was destroy itself. Your aspects point to you maybe being involved with both lands.

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posted February 23, 2009 10:33 AM              

thank you for mentioning the new places I haven`t looked up yet.

Hyperborea is actually in in my 12th house on the last degree of Scorpio and conjuncts Valentine and Mesopotamia.

posted February 23, 2009 12:05 PM            

The drowning theme is very interesting in your family as well. It feels like it is part of some Karmic debt. Do you think it could be?

IQ-
I see what you mean about the Reptillian bloodlines.
I am thinking it would bring with it tremendous creative potential as well wouldnt?
Also I find the Astral Goddess Kaali rituals interesting. Why do we feel the need to give her any type of sacrifice or worship?
Is just part of the evolution of our souls, to learn about darkness to better understand light?
In light of my own placements, I can see a definite worship of her in past lives or at least of very intimate dealing with the rituals and the power that it bestows and the rewards at rebirth.

Red Star-
How have you noticed the manifestation of your Reptilian DNA in the the 3D.
What was your childhood like?
This is very fascinating to me. I love Re-membering.

posted February 23, 2009 05:39 PM              

"DD-
Your family sounds very interesting."
Thanks.

" My family is so different because religion keeps them from discussing anything like that."
So your family is religious?

Well, my family isn`t, at least not in a conventional sense. Event hough we have been brought up according to Christian values, my parents, at least my mum, don`t really believe in the resurrection part. But they believe in the ethic of Christianity.
I know that my tendency to spirituality and reincarnation and the occult presented a big challenge to them.
But they are pretty open, and have always encouraged us children to have and voice our own thoughts, even though they would also try to be the "voice of reason".

"I have Lucifer opposing Angel exactly, lol
And conjunct Isis and quincunx DNA. I am the rebel by far."
Yes, definitely looks like it.

"Otherwise everyone is very proper and "civilized"."
Oh we`re also very civilized. In fact one of the sentences I remember my mum having spoken most often was: "Try to see it from their angle. Try to imagine what they feel." when I wanted to complain about someone.
It was well intended; but it`s been a hard lesson for me to learn what really MY take on things is, and what MY perspective is and that I have a right to disagree.
Of course my parents never wanted me to have these difficulties; but as a matter of fact during some years in puberty I have seen through the eyes of so much others, that I forgot to see the world through my own eyes.

"The drowning theme is very interesting in your family as well. It feels like it is part of some Karmic debt. Do you think it could be?"
I don`t know, it sure is interesting.
Also the grandmother of my mother had actually had tickets for a ship on which she wanted to escape with her children during 2nd world war.
But she was too late for the ship, and so had to cross the frozen baltic sea on her feet, with two little girls at her side.
The ship, that she had missed, was being bombarded and sank with a huge number of victims; 9000 people died on that ship, even much more than on the Titanic.
I`m sure if my great grandmother had been on that ship, I wouldn`t be sitting here typing all that.
I don`t k now why water plays such a great role in my family history, but it seems to do so.

I think it was the right decision that my mum insisted that all of us children learned to swim well. She practically shoved us into the water to learn it, even though it must have been very hard for her to watch us going into the water, knowing that in case of an emergency she wouldn`t be able to help us (she never learned swimming herself), but she always told us that it`s important that we would be able to swim.

In our charts Poseidon, Atlantis and Varuna are important:

My Chart:
Poseidon conjunct Atlantis conjunct Angel conjunct ASC conjunct Neptune conjunct True Node and all of this opposes Varuna

My mother:
Varuna opposes Sun (which rules her 3rd house of sisters and brothers!)
Atlantis conjunct DSC
Poseidon trines Saturn
Poseidon exactly square Karma

My Dad:
Varuna conjuncts Moon
Atlantis conjunct Saturn
Atlantis conjunct ASC
Atlantis exactly trine Karma
Poseidon conjunct Chiron

my middle brother:
Poseidon conjunct Venus (in Pisces. lol)
Poseidon square Varuna
Angel conjunct DNA in Aries (just thought this looked beautiful; it`s also on my IC)
Atlantis quinkunx ASC
ATlantis square Karma

my youngest brother:
Atlantis exactly on the IC: Wow
Atlantis conjunct NN
Atlantis opposing Neptune
Atlantis trine Mercury
Atlantis squrae ASC
Atlantis trine Pluto
Varuna square Sun
Poseidon squrae Saturn

Interestingly all of us have an aspect between Atlantis and ASC.

However, I didn`t want to stray too far off the topic. I just got fascinated with that theme.

posted February 24, 2009 09:44 AM            

They are very religious.
I was raised Jehovahs Witness and my mom is a very devout one. So is my sister, my dad thankfully never completely converted and so always was a reasoning voice of sanity. They strictly follow the Bible . Wanna know something interesting, I was reading the writtings of Svalli, you know the one that was a member of the illuminati and subject to ritual abuse, she said that the organization of JWs was infilitrated by the illuminati in the 1950s. I can totally see that. The information JWs recieve comes from a group in the organization called the "Governing Body", the Governing body is moved by "Holy Spirit" to write the information down in the form of new books that are released every year. But mind you it is all "Bible based". And the people in the organization never question it. You had to go to 5 one hr meetings a week when I was in it, and you had to go "door to door", like Jesus did, spreading the "Good News' at least 10 hours a month or you were shunned as a bad Christian. Sad right. Just reinforces the use of religion as a powerful mindcontrol device.
But anyway you can imagine me. An Indigo child growing up in that situation. A hott mess! lol I always wished I had a more open family like yours. You are very blessed DD.

I guess when I wrote:
"Otherwise everyone is very proper and "civilized"."
I meant that, being "Christians" they are very modest, the dress very puritan, they want follow every rule the Bible has so they can have Gods favor and attain everlasting life.
They never curse. They try to exude the "Fruits of the Spirit", they like live this Pseudo life in which they try to be a model Christian for people in "World" to pattern themselves by. Jesus is there model. The more my consciousness expands the wierder it seems to me, lol.

Thats an amazing story.
You made me think of something. At one point I was training for triathalons, still am actually. But I have this innate fear of the water.... that has kept me from learning how the swim and hence has kept me from signing up for a complete triathalon, I just do the bike and run part. I never thought about why I am avoiding the swimming part.

It is clear from your familys aspects that you are very connected to your Atlantis past life. That is awesome for you DD. What amazing talents you must have pulled over from that lifeline.

I bet we knew each other then.
My Atlantis is at 13 Taurus, widely conjunct my DC with a 5 degree orb.
But it is in a Grand Trine with Angel/NN, Circe/Anubis.
It is semi sext Neith
And sextile my Family Name/Aten/Osiris stellum
Forms a Yod with my DNA and Astro Asteroids
Sextile Sphinx/Sirius.

All of these within 2 degree orbs.

I am thinking we probably even started learning about Astrology then. Thats alot of lifetimes ago! Damn... lol

posted February 24, 2009 12:43 PM              

yes, I`ve thought about it, too, and also had the thought that maybe many of us, maybe even all, have connections to Atlantis, and that "Atlantis is calling" so to speak.

posted February 24, 2009 01:27 PM              

ORBM,

posted February 24, 2009 01:33 PM            

DD:
Besides that DD
my Lilith and Jung conj at 20 Leo oppose your Talent, Uran, and Moon. Your Pallas is conjunct my Psyche and my Psyche is conj your Pallas.

*scaping hands together*

posted February 24, 2009 02:17 PM              

yes, very interesting, you can say that.

posted February 24, 2009 08:44 PM              

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I am curious. Wouldnt these aspects be manifest in someones life as a negative thing. Havent these ruling families basically sold there souls literally for the power and wealth that they attain as a result.
Havent they choose the darkside so to speak?

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The ruling families have indeed wreaked much havoc and caused, *and are causing* much pain and suffering on this planet.
Yes, one way of expressing these aspects is in the negative form.

But I believe that the genes[hardware] can be overridden, or harnessed for good by the soul[software]. The potential can coexist for working with these Reptilian aspects, although I believe it's not an easy path to tread.

aqua/scorp and Darkdreamer - your aspects/family member aspects do look suspect, and fall within the parameters of this study - BUT!

That does not mean you are coldblooded, blood drinking enemies of mankind

The individuals I have known with these strong energies in real life, are NOTHING like the monsters that the ruling classes produce.

These people are unaware of their genetics, and are some of the most caring and empathetic individuals.

One of them even feels pain when a member of the plant kingdom is picked/cut/trampled.

However, they DO display some traits, but I do believe it is up to the soul to harness the body to whatever purpose.
Good or evil.

These individuals may have a disproportionately high level of Reptilian DNA, but their SOULS are not reptilian, unlike the specifically orchestrated rebirths of Reptilian souls in 'Reptilian DNA dominated' bodies by the Royal Families et al.

I do not think having a high Rep-DNA automatically sets you up for a lifetime of
negative expression. But the potential may be present.

The GOOD sides seem to be extremely high Pain tolerance coupled with very high levels of physical endurance.

Pattern recognition and very strong symbol/visual responses in art,music etc.
(Great sense of rhythm - they tend to pick up beats first over tones in music)

Strong will, coupled with an instinct to protect and defend, which could be used for the defense of those who are weak, or unable to defend themselves (children,animals,etc)

So, it is not all doom and gloom, if you find yourself in possession of a number of aspects pointing you down the Reptilian DNA road.

posted February 24, 2009 08:58 PM              

izodesmozina - thanks for the asteroid heads up

[oneruledbymars and Darkdreamer] I'm still reading through your posts- great stuff,and thank you for sharing!All that water related
karma (for lack of a better word) to me most definitely shows up in the stars for you DD.

I think you both are right,Oneruledbymars and DD- from the little time I have spent on this board, the Atlantean signature is too strong to ignore.

I really think it is not that far fetched to entertain the idea that here are gathered those who have been there once before, during a VERY similar time in human history.I really hope we can do a better job of it this time

Lara
you're so right- that aqua conglomeration of planets has opened us up to some interesting topics I'm loving it.
*or maybe it's just my merc in aqua*

posted February 24, 2009 10:05 PM            

Red Star-
I see what you are saying. And I agree. I guess there lives ,at some point, especially early on must be a terrible struggle though. As that energy is so strong, and willful.
Its interesting, the qualities you describe:

"The GOOD sides seem to be extremely high Pain tolerance coupled with very high levels of physical endurance.

Pattern recognition and very strong symbol/visual responses in art,music etc.
(Great sense of rhythm - they tend to pick up beats first over tones in music)

Strong will, coupled with an instinct to protect and defend, which could be used for the defense of those who are weak, or unable to defend themselves (children,animals,etc)"

Are personality traits that I have very innately.
I have always had "rhythm" and could dance from a very
small child. I have strong love for music, and there seems to be a "song" for many aspects of my life.
I have alot of endurance and a high threshold for pain.
(I train for and run triathalons, Ironman is my goal for next year, I love it)
I am very strong willed and I have always defended weaker people. Nothing angers me worst than to see people treated unjustly.
Infact I can remember when I was in 1st grade punching another kid in the face for picking on a boy who had urinated in his pants in class.

Thats very interesting. Thanks for sharing those.
I must have at some point intergrated these traits in to my Psyche, as my chart has nomajor connections between Kaali and any of my Planets except Mars and Saturn. But it is well intergrated amongst other Asteroids, so the Serpent energy is definitely there just not in my DNA.

"I think you both are right,Oneruledbymars and DD- from the little time I have spent on this board, the Atlantean signature is too strong to ignore."

I very strongly feel that about this board. It will be interesting to see our spiritual growth over next couple of years as our energy combinations spur us on to new discoveries, what momentous growth potential!

posted February 25, 2009 01:12 AM              

I'm still blown away by Moonchild's aspects!

Clear as day they are.Thank you so much for providing them IQ, it is comforting to know that there are others who are in on the game.
This is real, and it is big.

Thank you for explaining the role Venus plays in all of this.The Vedic scriptures were onto them. Demons indeed.

Does Moonchild have any idea about the intent of the KBA's towards humans? I know they do not hold the Reptilians and Dracos in favor,but what about the rest of humanity that's stuck in between with their eyes and minds totally shut to whats going on around them?
That stuff photographed near Saturn does my head in.

Would you or she have any advice for someone with a 'Reptilian predisposition' who is trying to do right in this world.

The wordplays are astounding - too many things adding up to total something very unpleasant.

Between them, the energy frequencies and impressions,the astro data, anthropological and cultural artifacts, old scriptures and
people's experiences its mindblowing how anyone could NOT start to at least entertain the thought.

posted February 25, 2009 03:00 AM              

"aqua/scorp and Darkdreamer - your aspects do look suspect, and fall within the parameters of this study"
Hmm, I didnīt think `my aspects were looking suspect, as there is no Kaali / DNA nor kaali / Venus nor Kaali /Pluto, BUT I do see that some members of my family have those.

Interestingly those are the members of my family who are farthest away from the description, and definitely do not strive gaining power. Actually they are quite modest and hate being centre of attention or even have difficulties to accept a compliment about their work and always have the feeling they have to do more for others. Especially my aunt is like this. She used her yearly holiday to go to Africa for a month and help out at a school for children with impaired hearing, because she jsut had the feeling she NEEDED to do something.
She`s also a nurse and has been working a lot in the "intensive care" station, trying to keep people from dying, and I know she suffered real hard for everyone who died.
And despite all the good she has been doing and still does, she still feels it`s not enough and not even worth mentioning.

"One of them even feels pain when a member of the plant kingdom is picked/cut/trampled."
I sometimes feel that with people / humanity. Sometimes the pain of other people is strongly reflected in my own insides, of course not as strong as they probably experience it, but strong enough to definitely influence my daily life.

"The GOOD sides seem to be extremely high Pain tolerance coupled with very high levels of physical endurance."
Hmm, speaking for myself I can`t relate. I`m very sensitive to pain. Even to imagined pain.

"Pattern recognition and very strong symbol/visual responses in art,music etc.
(Great sense of rhythm - they tend to pick up beats first over tones in music)"
I do like finding patterns, especially in astrology, but I do not have the slightest sense of rhythm.

"Strong will, coupled with an instinct to protect and defend, which could be used for the defense of those who are weak, or unable to defend themselves (children,animals,etc)"
I usually don`t have that, UNLESS it is to protect / defend weaker as you say.
I`m not able to defend myself, but have protected others.

posted February 25, 2009 07:10 AM              

According to Sidereal my Venus is in its strongest point in the early degrees of Taurus and it is rising.

THAT is what every vedic astrologer said to me - you definitely have a rising Venus in your chart. Because i am into Tropical aand come here i never took Vedic seriously and so dismissed this as a coincidence.

Importantly my Venus conjuncts chiron at 25 Tau and is the finger of a YOD with Neptune at 25 Sag and Pluto at 25 Lib.

Which makes it the most important aspect in my chart - esp when you take into account my natal Kaali at 29.5 Gem conjunct my Sun at 0 cancer opposing Isis at 29.5 Sag perfectly.

Its just tooooo much of a freakshow

I did have very strong reptilian connections in my previos lives- one of them involved being a Phraoah's wife and involved bloody rituals to Sekhmet , one was as my Twins wife - we were both Kundalini yoga practioners, one involved getting sacrificed to the goddess while i was pregnant

On the day of my Dna - kundalini activation.

9 jan 2009

My natal Venus had asteroid Spirit transiting it - meaning i was being freed from all my reptlian Dna ?

Transiting Kaali exactly on top of my natal Saturn and opposed my natal Karma .

Saturn is our accumulated karmic debts, Karma is ..well ya know..

posted February 25, 2009 08:58 AM            

"Reptilian Bloodline Ruling families will attempt to stage a fake alien invasion prior to that."

I had a strong feeling that they were going to do that. I don't watch TV, but some of my associates do, especially the ones I have on set. And they have asked me several times, if I think that Aliens are really coming to Earth. I came to the conclusion that this was exactly what the Ruling Families were putting out there for them to be prepared for a pseudo invasion so that they would believe it and it would create more chaos. That will be a very trying time for us no doubt.

posted February 25, 2009 04:27 PM              

a)
Transit DNA is conjunct Transit Atlantis conjunct Transit Mars on 16 - 17 Aquarius (yes it is EXACT);
- and this is exactly conjunct my natal Moon and exactly trine my natal Karma
- it is also conjunct the Atlantis-position in the composite with someone

b)
Transit Angel is exactly sextile Transit Karma
- transit Angel also conjuncts my natal True Node
- Transit Karma is moving back to a conjunction to my natal Pluto
- Transit Angel also opposes my natal Kaali

c)
- Transit Rudra opposes Transit Angel and trines Transit Karma
- Transit Rudra conjuncts my natal Kaali exactly

d) Transit Venus is on 13 - 14 Aries - the Kundalini Sabian and it`s opposing Transit Karma
(it`s also exactly conjunct the SN of the composite with the guy I mentioned above. lol)

But all in all the Transits seem to explain why we have been discussing not only Kaali, but also Atlantis.
I mean, DNA conjunct Atlantis, woah, feels like a tremendous energy, doesn`t it?

EDIT:
Interesting Sabians today:

Sun:
A GIRL BLOWING A BUGLE
- it`s amazing how often different people used the expression that they felt like they were hearing a "call"

Venus:
A SERPENT COILING NEAR A MAN AND A WOMAN

Mars, DNA, Atlantis:
A WATCHDOG STANDS GUARD; PROTECTING HIS MASTER AND HIS POSESSIONS

true node.
A MAN WHO HAD FOR A TIME BECOME THE EMBODIMENT OF A POPULAR IDEAL IS MADE TO REALIZE THAT AS A PERSON HE IS NOT THIS IDEAL
- not sure, how that fits, but I think many people make discoveries about themselve, and they are not always pleasant ones; or it is simply a warning to not let the Ego get "inflated"

Angel:
A FLAG TURNS INTO AN EAGLE; THE EAGLE TURNS INTO A CHANTICLEER SALUTING THE DAWN
- can you, too, feel the athmosphere of departure?

Saturn:
A CARAVAN OF CARS HEADED TO THE WEST COAST
- just what I mentioned!

Pluto:

A HUMAN SOUL IN ITS EAGERNESS FOR NEW EXPERIENCES SEEKS EMBODIMENT

Karma:
MINERS ARE SURFACING FROM A DEEP COALMINE

Kaali:

AN AIRPLANE SAILS HIGH IN THE CLEAR SKY
- this is almost creepy, isnīt it?

Siva:

THE WOMAN OF SAMARIA AT THE ANCHESTRAL WELL

Those Sabians are really fascinating, almost hypnotising. What a day is breaking! (actually these are the Sabians for the 26th february, so tomorrow technically; but most of them were already valid)

posted February 25, 2009 06:28 PM            

First DD the transits were amazing. I actually did mine after you posted that and this is what I came up with:

Tranisiting DNA/Atlantis at 16-17 deg Aquarius:
Exactly Trine Amun/Rudra w/ Hekate not far off at 15 deg
Exactly Quincunx: Musa/NN
Exactly Conj Hermes

Transiting Angel:
Exactly Conj Astro Wiz/Salome
Exactly Square Valentine/Osiris (Angel just 1 orb off)
Exactly Semi-Sex Ixion/Circe
Exactly Sextile EROS

Transiting Venus at 13-14 Aries was:

Exactly Conj Eris
Exactly Oppose DNA/Magnanamity
Exactly Square Sirius/Sphinx/Semir/Anubis
Exactly Semi-Sex Neith/Aten/Atlantis

"But all in all the Transits seem to explain why we have been discussing not only Kaali, but also Atlantis.
I mean, DNA conjunct Atlantis, woah, feels like a tremendous energy, doesn`t it?"

There is defintely a tremendous energy in the air!

And that Pluto Sabian:
"A HUMAN SOUL IN ITS EAGERNESS FOR NEW EXPERIENCES SEEKS EMBODIMENT"

I sat there for like at least a minute soaking all of this is in last night. I have to tell you this story for you to undersand.

Yesterday while I was on set. This lady came up to me and started talking to me. She is the Wardrobe designer so I was surprised that she starting talk to me. After I told her that I used to be a Physical Therapist but that I got bored with it but I learned alot about the body and its healing processes, she said that she was Reiki Healer. She asked me if I knew what that was. I said yes. She said that she mostly worked on animals but that she did do some work on humans.
She then asked me if I had ever had a past life regression. I said no but that I was interested in getting one. She said that I should, that I havent connected with all of my lifelines yet and that it is time. This peaked my interest of course. I told her that I was an Astrologer. She said that she kind of figured that. She told me that she has been meaning to talk to me because she felt "compelled"to tell me that she has been having dreams of purple and then she sees my face. She said that she has had these dreams for the past 3 months since she met me. She asked me if I knew that I was an Indigo Child, I said yes. She said good. She said that she has noticed that she only has these dreams after she has come into contact with an Indigo Child. She then started talking really fast.
She said that my neice is a Crystalline child and that we are soulmates. She said "You have been father and daughter, sister and brother, husband and wife all over many, many lifetimes together". She said that she has choosen to incarnate now (2012) when alot of souls are choosing to die off. She said that 2012 should prove to be a tough time but in the end it will be good thing for the human race and mother Earth. She said that we would help each other. She said that I will be her mentor at first until she becomes in tune with who she is, and why she is here, she said then I would become the pupil.

I asked her what Crystalline Children are and she said they are very special children with special abilities. She said that our generation has come help transform the world from its not so good past. She was talking really fast, I could barely understand her, (in fact I can only remember bits and peices of it energy was whirling everywhere in my head) but then she stopped and smiled at me. She apologize for talking so fast, she said that she just felt compelled to tell me this and that she hoped that it wasnt to much. I just stood there. Speechless. I did manage to thank her though. She then said she had an appointment she was late too. She grabbed my hands and said "I just love this" with a big smile and said I am sure we will talk soon and was gone....
I suddenly realized that I had completely sweated out my clothes even though it was cold outside. And that I had a major headache. I went behind the trailer and bawled, I couldnt help it... it was like I was having some type of primal emotional release.....it was either bawl or throw up...
Whats so amazing is that my neice is due next month.
And my sister was 4 months pregnant before she even knew she was pregnant, just like what happened when my mom concieved me.

Then I came home and read those transits that you posted. And all I could think of was our Pallas/Pscyhe DW.
And that Pluto Sabian!
Holy crap.... DD.... Atlantis is rising...........