posted February 25, 2009 07:42 PM              

I'm blown away by your story about Venus aspects/prominence in your chart. it makes TOTAL sense.
WOW.
Like you, I was kinda hoping that (the part of me that refuses to acknowledge this, its a SMALL but insistent part,acts like a 5 year old) by posting here about the whole Venus/KAALI/etc business to be told that it's just me, and so much smoke

But instead look at what an avalanche of people's experiences, and confirmations it has triggered - and some even goes deeper, and gets more profound.
Thank you for sharing your story - it may help others by triggering their own revelations.

IQHunk thanks for the info. It's good to have what little it is possible to come by.
No space rescue it is then. At least they don't appear so far to be doing much, safe for amassing fleets

Here is a link to an article about the strange Hexagonal 'structure' that has appeared on Saturn, for those who are interested:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11478

Darkdreamer - wow you are amazing with those transits!!!Ah how could we doubt the stars, of course they have this all planned out and neatly displayed for all who know how to read them.
"You silly humans, pay attention...here is how the story goes..*twinkle*"

quote:

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Karma:
MINERS ARE SURFACING FROM A DEEP COALMINE

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That can refer to the rising in our consciousness of the submerged memories/energies of Atlantis/Lemuria, and the true history of humanity, as we have been discussing in this thread.

quote:

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Mars, DNA, Atlantis:
A WATCHDOG STANDS GUARD; PROTECTING HIS MASTER AND HIS POSESSIONS

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It is time (transit) for Activation (mars) of the Atlantis DNA, perhaps at first specifically in those who carry the frequency of Atlantis, in essence 'guarding' the knowledge of those times.

All the transits are powerfully packed with potential energy, something new is definitely beginning/opening up in people.

The sabian for pluto - mindblowing!

Oneruledbymars - Congratulations! You are receiving such a special gift from the universe! And your niece will be ever so lucky to have such a wise and loving Auntie.
Truly your are both blessed to have each other, whatever shall come your way.

I believe things like the event that happened to you with this woman, happen in their proper time and place. I'm sure it was astounding, and exhilarating to be face to face with someone who for that moment embodied the universe/fate/etc. What an experience.I'm so glad you shared that here - I agree 100% that none of this is chance, Atlantis is most definitely rising, and thankfully we are re-membering what was and is to come.

posted February 26, 2009 09:58 AM            

I'm an Uncle!
LMAO!

Do I come off as that much of a girl!
*stomping my feet and pouting!" DD! Lara! RedStar thinks Im a girl............Thats a hot mess!

lol

just teasin Redstar,
you wrote:

"Oneruledbymars - Congratulations! You are receiving such a special gift from the universe! And your niece will be ever so lucky to have such a wise and loving Auntie.
Truly your are both blessed to have each other, whatever shall come your way.

I believe things like the event that happened to you with this woman, happen in their proper time and place. I'm sure it was astounding, and exhilarating to be face to face with someone who for that moment embodied the universe/fate/etc. What an experience.I'm so glad you shared that here - I agree 100% that none of this is chance, Atlantis is most definitely rising, and thankfully we are re-membering what was and is to come."

Thank you for your kind words... I don't know about wise but I can definitely handle the loving part... but I know I will definitely be a fun one!
It was definitely one of the most interesting experiences I have had to date. That reminded me of Pholus: overwhelming, overshadowing, and overflowing... Hey if you don't mind sharing what is your email, I have a question for you....

posted February 26, 2009 12:30 PM              

Your story really is an intense one. WHOA! I am getting goosebumps reading it.

And in a way it`s almost funny, my youngest brother is an Indigo child, too, with a Pisces Sun and ASC, and Moon-Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in Sagittarius (on my True Node), an exact Mercury-Talent-conjunction in Aqua trine Pluto and sextile Neptune (exactly), a wide Venus-Mars-conjunction in Aries and a wide Saturn-Pluto-conjunction in Libra / Scorpio.
Funny thing I gave him his name. My mom had chosen a different name for him, and I told her flatly that the name she had chosen was wrong. lol I was 9 years old at that time, but my parents agreed on the name I had chosen (my dad didn`t like the other name anyway). And that name actually came from a fairy tale I was reading at that time. STrange.

Oh and your story reminded me of an incident of very long ago. I was maybe 14 or 15 years old and was looking at some books in a bookstore, when an old man approached me over the table, actually grabbed my arm and said: "Do you know how special you are?"
I was just staring at him, pondering if he might be dangerous, and he then continued: "Do you remember the 8th dimension? You have been there, and you have the ability to switch between here and there. You`ve just forgotten how to. It will take a long time, but you`ll get there again."

Something like this he said (of course I don`t know the eXACT words anymore, but that thing about switching between the 8th dimension and here got stuck in my mind), I was confused, looked down on my books, trying to grasp what he had told me, and when I looked up again, he was gone. He really simply disappeared. And he was an old man with a cane. Where did he disappear so quickly?

However the 8th-dimension thing kinda stuck with me, but I have never found out what the 8th dimension is.

REgarding your story I think it`s so interesting that you and your niece are soulmates. I have always felt like my youngest brother is a soulmate (and teacher) to me.
Actually it was him who brought up the issue about 2012. lol

Shame on me, being an astrologer and yet I hadn`t really payed attention, before he mentioned it. I mean he comes from the other side, a more politically oriented side (well, at least investigating all these theories about the American ruling family and all - no idea where he has got that from, well *I* know, but my family doesn`t. lol), and yet we kinda came to the same point, the same results.
He can explain me those theories and background stories, and I can explain to him the signs in the stars. It`s pretty good teamwork. lol

posted February 26, 2009 01:02 PM            

I named my neice too. Indirectly....About 9 or 10 years ago I was friends with this girl name Chenin in college.
And I told my Brother in law that he should name his daughter that. Apparently he loved it because a month ago I asked my sister what they were going to name her and she said Chenin Nicole.....

See something similiar has happened to you too. Wow!

I felt that way about her she just disappeared or maybe we were just lost in another Dimension, and didnt note of there exit. Sounds like yours just slipped away, like someone would do through a time portal........

Yeah 2012 is a big one for me too. I am almost like obsessed with it. I read as much as I possibly can on it. I am throughly excited about it, even now the energy of elation washes through me with the idea of life on Earth after 2012...

From what I know the 8th Dimension involves an Archetypal dimension of consiousness. It is when you have full control over the story of Life on Earth. Makes me think of a phrase that was coined in Atlantis. "Knowledge is power" ....But I can see your connection to that, I think we are all striving in this Forum to attain to that level of conscious, and the Stars are supporting us! The only thing standing in the way of it is the very thing we can move....ourselves!

posted February 26, 2009 03:21 PM            

DD I have had loads of dreams about floods and marshlands and as children in school (aged 4 and 5) we played games about ships in the sea and drowning... (someone had to run after everyone else to save them from drowning kind of like tig).
It's so interesting.
I dreamt about the Moon getting bigger and the sun swallowing up the rivers, they were flooding everywhere and it seemed to be the sun or Moon or both causing tidal waves and evaporation?

posted February 26, 2009 03:57 PM            

I think people with strong outerplanet emphasis can relate to the Indigo.
OUTER PLANETS
(Neptune,Uranus involving personal planets,angles.....I included Pluto in the Kuiper Belt Objects - nonroutine,nonlinear,metaphysically oriented)
Neptune -imagination,ultrasensitive,visualization,idealism
Uranus - in regards to unconventional,independence,innovation,
novelty-seeking
Pluto - in regards to intensity,hyperfocus

I believe that kuiper belt objects figure prominently in neurodivergence too, and so I believe that they figure prominently in Indigo,Crystal types.

Kuiper Belt Objects orbit beyond Neptune, and so they are transneptunians. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries, the kuiper belt objects go beyond the boundaries into the unknown. These energies could be so metaphysical that they can manifest as problems on the physical plane,and that could manifest as neurodivergence which is often viewed as disorder by society but has its strengths. The kuiper belt objects have highly eccentric orbits and orbit off the ecliptic,and so they can be about being a nonconformist and not fitting in with the mainstream.

Lee Carroll, channel and author The Kryon Writings Series and the Indigo Children Series is going to be at the Christ Unity Church here in Sacramento on March 1, 2009.

Lee Carroll's site is here www.kryon.com/

I decided that I am going to attend it and listen to what he will be saying. Because of his specializing in Indigo Children, I would like to have the opportunity to speak to him about Indigo Children. It was said that he found out about the Indigo Children while channeling a higher dimension being named Kyron. Anne Angelheart told me that I am meant to work with the Indigo Children during a soul reading that she gave me.

I can relate to a lot of the Indigo stuff that she talked about in that book. I believe that a lot of New Age,metaphysical practitioners as well as people that believe in New Age,metaphysical things could relate to some of the Indigo stuff too. The existence of highly intelligent,gifted,metaphysically oriented neurodivergent human beings is not a recent phenomena. People who specialize in working with special education needs students are already aware that many neurodivergents are highly intelligent and gifted. I think that many neurodivergents keep metaphysical things to themselves any way just like I have and still do.

Highly Sensitive People could fit with the Indigo Stuff. Highly Sensitive Children could be viewed as Indigos.

"So, the second "what now" might be to read The Highly Sensitive Child. I wrote this book because so many adults were telling me that their childhoods were excruciatingly difficult, even when their parents had the best intentions, because no one knew how to raise them. Parents and teachers told them there were "too sensitive" or "too shy" or "too intense." They tried to change and could not, and so felt increasingly isolated or ashamed. My hope is to spare some children such unnecessary suffering and the world the waste of so much talent, because HSCs have a tremendous amount to offer the world. But they do need special handling. They need to be appreciated, to have their special needs and sometimes intense reactions and behaviors understood, and, when correction is needed, they need to be handled with special care so that they do not become anxious or ashamed of their failure."

"This book is rooted in years of my experience as a psychotherapist and consultant to HSPs and parents of HSCs, plus interviews with parents, teachers, and HSCs themselves for the book. Then there are my experiences from my fumbling efforts to raise an HSC before I knew what that was. And there's what I know from having been an HSC myself."

"Again, few parents and teachers understand this trait-–and as a result, HSCs are often mislabeled as "problem children" (and in some cases, misdiagnosed with disorders such as Attention Deficit Disorder). But raised with proper understanding and care, HSCs are no more prone to problems than nonsensitive children and can grow up to be happy, healthy, unusually well-adjusted and creative adults." http://www.hsperson.com/pages/child.htm

There is also a concept called anomalous sensitivity that includes the belief that psychic sensitivity and neurodivergence are strongly connected. This is also similar to the Indigo Children concept.

"An Anomalously Sensitive Person exhibits uncommonly high levels of sensitivity, not only in the emotional realm, but also in the physiological, cognitive, altered states of consciousness and transpersonal ("metaphysical," "paranormal," or "psychic") realms as well. These characteristics are essentially the same characteristics that identify those who, in New Age parlance, are spoken of as "Star Children," "Crystal Children," "Indigo Children," or "Walk Ins." Whatever the label might be, the book "The H.I.S.S. of the A.S.P." is a tribute to these highly sensitive persons." www.hissofasp.com/

There is a concept called Overexcitability that seems to be similar to the Indigo concept.

"Overexcitabilities are inborn intensities indicating a heightened ability to respond to stimuli. Found to a greater degree in creative and gifted individuals, overexcitabilities are expressed in increased sensitivity, awareness, and intensity, and represent a real difference in the fabric of life and quality of experience. Dabrowski identified five areas of intensity-Psychomotor, Sensual, Intellectual, Imaginational, and Emotional. A person may possess one or more of these. http://www.sengifted.org/articles_social/Lind_OverexcitabilityAndTheGifted.shtml

There is one book in particular that seems to share similar concepts about the rightbrained,multidimensional,visual,intuitive thought processes of neurodivergents. It is called GIFT OF DYSLEXIA by Ronald D. Davis who is Dyslexic and was diagnosed Autistic. This book is similar to the Indigo Children concept. http://www.amazon.com/Gift-Dyslexia-Ronald-D-Davis/dp/03995 2293X/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234285860&sr=8-2

Davis Dyslexia Association International www.dyslexia.com/

another book that I have which discusses the the thought processes of visual thinkers is UPSIDE BRILLIANCE by Dr. Linda Silverman. Some of the concepts are similar to the Indigo concept. http://www.amazon.com/Upside-Down-Brilliance -Visual-Spatial-Learner/dp/193218600X/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234288371&sr=8-6

Linda Silverman's site http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/Visual_Spatial_Learner/vsl.htm

another book that really goes in depth about the visual thinking of neurodivergents is IN THE MIND'S EYE Eye: Visual Thinkers, Gifted People With Dyslexia and Other Learning Difficulties, Computer Images and the Ironies of Creativity by Thomas G. West http://www.amazon.com/Minds-Eye-Thinkers-Diff iculties-Creativity/dp/1573921556/ref=pd_bbs_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234288371&sr=8-5

Of course, people with strong emphasis on the outer planets could probably relate to the Indigo stuff because the outer planets orbit beyond Saturn which is physical boundaries,and so they relate to the metaphysical. I also believe that people with strong emphasis on kuiper belt objects could especially relate to the Indigo stuff because the kuiper belt objects orbit beyond the outerplanets,and so they are more metaphysical. The Centaurs could also factor into it....especially Chiron which I think is connected to special needs that could include special education with its emphasis on being a maverick.

Speaking of maverick, there is a book called
MAVERICK MIND: A Mother's Story of Solving the Mystery of her Unreachable, Unteachable, Silent by Cheri Florance. She writes about her child who was diagnosed as deaf,mute,and autistic,and she didn't accept the diagnoses. She believed that her son's visual thought processes were so advanced that they had shut down his verbal ability. She found techniques that taught Whitney to read, talk, interact with others and function successfully in mainstream classrooms. I read this book too,and I recommend it for any parent who has a child that has special education needs,is counted out,underestimated,and misdiagnosed by so-called specialists. New Age,metaphysical practitioners would probably believe that Whitney is a Crystal which is a term that is applied to metaphysically oriented people that get labeled Autistic. I was autistic-like in early childhood too, and I greatly benefited from early intervention special education therapies that included auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,and motor skills therapy. http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Mind-Mothers- Unreachable-Unteachable/dp/0399530673/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234290801&sr=8-1

My astrological neurodivergent layout plan http://tribes.tribe.net/neurodivergence/thread/c07da1b6-129d-4ff2-a613-3a05b4f58c4e

Raymond

posted February 26, 2009 05:14 PM            

It is Diabolical what goes on!

posted February 26, 2009 05:22 PM              

"They say that Indigos seem to have alot of conj/stellums of planets in the charts. Have you noticed that?"
I have actually never given much thought about Indigo chidren, but my brother fits the description.
I wouldn`t see it depending on a certain generation though, like Glaucus said.
However, the three outer planets, Uranus, neptune and Pluto will be important for a generation and give it a certain "flavour". In his case Uranus in Sagittarius, Neptune in Sagittarius and Pluto on the last degree of Libra.

"Also have Mercury exact conjunct talent too, thats interesting."
Yes, indeed that is interesting. I have Talent conjunct Psyche and Urania, also "mind" asteroids.

That is also interesting that you named your niece.

"eah 2012 is a big one for me too. I am almost like obsessed with it. I read as much as I possibly can on it."
it`s strange, but I don`t. I canīt even explain why I don`t feel obsessed with it. I just feel like it`s a natural cycle, and the only reason we view it as something so absolutely special is our limited understanding of the concept of time and its rhythms. I don`t know. I told you I can`t explain it.

" I am throughly excited about it, even now the energy of elation washes through me with the idea of life on Earth after 2012..."
That`s something else. I just can`t connect to the believe that "something" will happen that will c hange everything within a single moment.
I rather feel as if it has already started. (I donīt know what "it" is though). It`s a process, and maybe 2012 will be a culmination point of that process leading to another level, but actually we are already taking the steps towards it.

But on the other hand I just have NO idea, and know nothing, so I should better shut up about it.

"From what I know the 8th Dimension involves an Archetypal dimension of consiousness. It is when you have full control over the story of Life on Earth. "
Interesting.

"Makes me think of a phrase that was coined in Atlantis. "Knowledge is power""
How funny, that is what my mother always said: "Knowledge is power" (not power in the sense to control others, but to see through the manipulations of others and stand up against them).

posted February 26, 2009 05:30 PM              

"DD I have had loads of dreams about floods and marshlands"
Yes, me, too. Actually one dream sticks with me (but it can also be a symbolical one) and t hat is that there were rivers where once streets have been.

"I dreamt about the Moon getting bigger and the sun swallowing up the rivers, they were flooding everywhere and it seemed to be the sun or Moon or both causing tidal waves and evaporation?"
That could be, definitely, yes.
Which reminds me of a dream, in which my mother told me, that the end would come if the sun became a "red-orange glowing ball of gas". I never understood the meaning of that dream, I actually still donīt.
Oh and I`ve had another dream, not too long ago, when I dreamed about the end of the world. It came and then there was a moment (or an eternity?) of nothing, and then it all started anew. lol

"h and you share a dna placement with Angelina Jolie, Dolly Parton,Heath Ledger!"
Interesting that you mention Heath, after all I have dreamed of him some nights ago. Well, I looked at his chart, and it appears that his DNA was widely conjunct mine and trine my Karma and Moon, and his Karma was conjunct my Karma.

Oh and Angelina`s DNA is just one degree off mine. lol

posted February 26, 2009 05:31 PM            

However when it comes to psychic and senstive children is there a link or neurological pattern?
Is there a part of the brain active that connects them and does that occur because of a specific neurological genetic pattern?
Is it conditioned or genetic?

When you consider how electricity works and the fact that electricity runs through our body and in our brain are we trnsmitting to each other and do the indigo children feel this transmission more?

posted February 26, 2009 05:51 PM              

"DD that was my dream too, that the streets I know were once flooded"
That`s pretty outstanding that we had the same dream now, independent from each other, now isn`t it?

"Are you related to Angelina!!!!"
Nope. Not a little bit. And I am definitely looking nothing like her.
Even though interesting, brad and me share the same birthday. lol

posted February 26, 2009 06:00 PM            

But isn't it cool how the streets are actually called willow, vale, Dale etc!

posted February 26, 2009 06:15 PM            

here is a site on Indigos. I am skeptical of the concept, and there are other labels for these types. http://www.indigochild.com/

"However when it comes to psychic and senstive children is there a link or neurological pattern?
Is there a part of the brain active that connects them and does that occur because of a specific neurological genetic pattern?
Is it conditioned or genetic?"

I believe that this stuff runs in families. I was born to 2 neurodivergent/ultrasensitive parents. They both were born with watersign moon just like me. My mother has Moon in Scorpio,and my father had Moon in Pisces like me and my maternal grandfather who had Sun in Cancer in 8th. My mom has Sun in 12th trine Neptune in 5th, and my father had stationary Neptune. I have Moon square Neptune. My maternal grandmother had Sun in 12th and Neptune in 5th like my mother. She had Moon sextile Pluto which is similar to my mom's Moon in Scorpio. She had Mercury in Pisces oppose/contraparallel Neptune, and so she had Mercury-Neptune mutual reception. My Mercury parallel Neptune in 3rd is similar to her configuration. She also has strong 12th house in general with Sun,Mars,and Uranus in 12th. My grandfather's Sun and Mercury in 8th is similar to my Sun and Mercury in Scorpio. I also find it interesting that I am the 3rd straight generation Chiron in 8th person AND watersign moon person after my mother and maternal grandfather. My maternal grandfather's mother had Sun in Cancer like my maternal grandfather,and so I am the 4th straight generational watersign luminary person. Both my parents were born with Sun-Pluto declination aspects like me. My grandfather was born with Sun-Pluto declination aspect. Therefore, I am 3rd straight generation Sun-Pluto declination aspect person. My Mom has Sun sextile/parallel Pluto,and so similar to my Sun in Scorpio contraparallel Pluto. Strong watersign emphasis,Strong outerplanet emphasis run in my family. Even strong kuiper belt emphasis runs in my family.

I've believed in astro-hereditary,astro-genetics as long as I believed in Astrology back in 1998.

"When you consider how electricity works and the fact that electricity runs through our body and in our brain are we trnsmitting to each other and do the indigo children feel this transmission more?"

I don't know.

even numerology fits with the Indigo traits. Master numbers, 11,22,and 33 fit with the Indigo traits.
the birthday numbers 11,22,and 29th do too.
My mother has an 11 lifepath and 22 expression, and that totals a maturity number of 33. I was born on the 29th like my maternal grandmother. My maternal grandfather was born on the 22nd. 2 is associated with sensitivity too. My father was born on the 2nd,and he has a lifepath of 9. It's possible that my being born on the 29th is not just my inheriting my 29th day traits from my mom whose lifepath is actually 29/11 and her mother who was born on 29th day, but the combination of my father's 2 birthday and 9 lifepath traits. It could also inheriting 2 vibrations from my mom with 11 being a higher version of 2 and 9 vibrations from my father.

I definitely believe in numero-heredity,numero-genetics too.

Numerology site. http://www.decoz.com/

Resources for Gifted Children with Special Needs
(ADD/ADHD, Learning Disabilities (LD), Asperger Syndrome, etc.)
"Twice-exceptional children (that is, intellectually gifted children with special needs such as AD/HD, learning disabilities, Asperger Syndrome, etc.) have a hard time of it in our education system - because their giftedness can mask their special needs and their special needs hide their giftedness, they are often labeled as "lazy", "unmotivated", "not trying". Many people don't even realize that a child can be both gifted and learning disabled; however, Linda Silverman, Ph.D., the director of the Gifted Development Center has found that fully 1/6 of the gifted children tested at the GDC have a learning difference of some type." http://www.uniquelygifted.org/

I also want to reiterate that many gifted people aren't neurodivergent too. However,gifted people and neurodivergents tend to share visual spatial thinking strengths and other traits in common,and can be a mismatch for mainstream education institutions that focus mainly on auditory sequential teaching methods.

Here is stuff on Characteristics of Dual Exceptionalities. The Characteristics of Learning Disabled seem similar to the Indigo concept except for the metaphysical. Supersensitivity,insightful,imaginative/creative are some of the traits listed. There is also pointing out that some children diagnosed as ADHD are really gifted and reacting to an inappropriate curriculum. They said that it is also possible for a child to be both gifted and ADHD. http://www.education.com/reference/article/Ref_Dual/

Here is stuff on Characteristics of Gifted Students Who Are Bored and Characteristics of Students with ADHD. The Characteristics of the Gifted seem similar to the Indigo concept except for the metaphysical stuff. The ADHD is not necessarily a disorder when you consider the DRD4 7R gene a novelty seeking gene is connected to half of ADHD cases. http://www.education.com/reference/article/Ref_Dual/?page=2

Author of DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION (a book on adult ADHD), Dr. Ned Hallowell includes creativity,intuitiveness,sensitivity as the positive aspects of ADHD. He is a psychiatrist who has ADHD and Dyslexia http://www.drhallowell.com/resources/articles/positive_aspects.html

Thom Hartmann lists certain traits in regards to Edison gene kids....this is stuff about DRD4 7R gene which is dated 10,000 to 40,000 years ago. His theory was that ADHD was an adapative trait that was beneficial for hunters. In other words, ADHD personality type and the Hunter personality type is one and the same.

page 4 - 5 THE EDISON GENE ADHD And The Gift Of The Hunter Child

What exactly defines those bearing this genetic makeup? Edison-gene children and adults are by nature

Enthusiastic
Creative
Disorganized
Non-linear in their thinking (they leap to new conclusions or observations)
Innovative
Easily distracted (or,to put it differently, easily attracted to new stimuli)
Capable of extraordinary hyperfous
Understanding of what it means to be an "outsider"
Determined
Eccentric
Easily Bored
Impulsive
Entrepreneurial
Energetic

All of these qualities lead them to be natural:

Explorers
Inventors
Discoverers
Leaders

He also points out that those carrying the gene often find themselves in environments where they're coerced,threatened,or shoehorned into a classroom or job that doesn't fit. He said when Edison-gene children can be have great emotional and spiritual wounding when they are aren't recognized for their gifts but instead are told that they're disordered,broken,or failures. He points that the wounding can bring all sorts of problems for children,for the adults they grow into,and for our society.

He and many scientists,educations,physicaisns,and therapists believe that when these unique chilcren don't succeed in public schools,it's often because of a disconnect between them---their brains are wired to make them brilliant inventors and entrepreneurs--and our schools,which are set up for children whose brains are wired to make them good workers in the structured environments of a factory of officle cubicle.

As you see, Thom Hartmann's views of ADHD is not that far off from New Ager's view of ADHD except he doesn't talk about metaphysical,psychic stuff. His theories have been confirmed by the discovery of the DRD4 7R gene. These are traits of a gene that is 10,000 to 40,000 years ago, and so they are nothing new. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/01/020109074512.htm
https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2002-06/your-caveman-gramps-had-ants-his-pants http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080609195604.htm

the skyrocking increase of children on psyche medications coincided with the skyrocketing increase of astronomers discovering kuiper belt objects and centaurs since 1992. In 1930, Pluto was the first kuiper belt object discovered. In 1978, Chiron was the first centaur discovered.

Raymond

posted February 26, 2009 09:25 PM              

Dardkdreamer- your younger brother's chart is technically my chart..except I would have a different moon and Asc. The rest sounds bang on.I Even have the aqua sun/merc conjunction.
Fascinating story-sometimes we need someone else to remind us of who/what we truly are.
Have you ever had any interdimensional experiences? (If you don't mind me asking)

Quinnie -thank you for the confirmation, I thought that Retro DNA was suspect, turning up all the time in these cases!
I still think we should explore your theory of DNA-in-element persuasion.
So far on this thread we have 3 individuals with Libran DNA -DD,ORBM and me.
From memory the majority of Windsors had it retro too-Queen Victoria,Charles and Elizabeth for certain.

Atlantis came up in this thread by itself -
it's ties to it can be explained by the belief held by some that Lemuria and Atlantis co-existed for a brief period of time, and then came into conflict, resulting in the demise of Lemuria, and subsequent sinking of Atlantis.
It is thereby possible to speculate that individuals who have ties to both places may have placements in their charts indicating that.
Hence the Atlantis angle to all of this
Quinnie I would certainly pay attention to your dreams, and whether past or future, I am
sure they are messages to be deciphered.

DNA aspecting personal angles/planets/rulers in synastry points to important relationships,especially between family charts/life partners etc.

DD- is your(or anyone's in your family) DNA retro? I have a feeling your brother's might be.

posted February 26, 2009 09:46 PM            

I guess I am obsessed in the sense that the Earth is going through changes, you can feel the energy in the air. We are passing out of an Age and entering a new one, that promises to bring great change. It is a natural cycle Gaia goes through, and she is under going the process of cleansing herself even as we speak. With us on her! You must be amazed at the very least that you are upon her at this momentous time in history.

"That`s something else. I just can`t connect to the believe that "something" will happen that will c hange everything within a single moment.
I rather feel as if it has already started. (I donīt know what "it" is though). It`s a process, and maybe 2012 will be a culmination point of that process leading to another level, but actually we are already taking the steps towards it"

I dont mean that something will happen like a single moment. I mean that something is happening. I guess its not the number that excites me, it is the process. 2012 IS just a culmination, a marker as it were. Our Solar System will be passing through the Galactic Center of the Universe, that alone should be exciting enough.

We are now presented with a time of change. Accelerated Karma affords us the opportunity to deal with it at record speeds, releasing us from that cycle. We can transcend our natal chart. We are now able to go deep within our psyche and bring up parts of our soul that we have divorce through these many reincarnations and deaths. We also have the opportunity of activating our DNA, and connecting to the Oversoul of our many lifelines.
If those arent exciting things to accomplish then what is!

So its not the date I guess that I am obsessed with its the opportunity that the reincarnating souls at this time have.
So many people are becomingconscious beings again and its truly a momentous time.

Glaucus/Quinnie:
As far as the Indigo thing goes. Honestly, I am what I am. The label it is given by the New Agers is Indigo. All I know is that I fit all the descriptions that they make for them. And many have told me that I am one for whatever reasons compelled them . What I do know and have known from small child is that I am different. But arent we all. Its what makes us unique. Labelling seems to rub people the wrong way though so I try to avoid that. Who needs labels anyway, they are so restricting. When we take them off, we free ourselves up to be anything that we want too, and thats usually more amazing than any word that is in our vocabulary.

I just know that I have this huge,....colossal urge to help create a new Earth. It doesnt have to be a big thing. It can be a small thing. In the 3rd Dimension we are just holograms of a hologram. So if I take the love and light that I bring into this world, and I spread it everyday to each of the people I come into contact with by a kind word or gesture, even something as simple as a smile, holding a door, giving them a compassionate ear to listen to them.
If I encourage the people in my soul group that I have connected with to walk there lifepaths and transcend there fears and do all I can to help them claim there birth right as the Divine beings they are, while connecting with there inner God as I strive to connect with mine. I like the idea of being captain of my lifelines, my incarnations as it were. (that always takes me back to Egyptian Hieroglyphs depicting the travels through the 12 stages of the Underworld). Then that is making my part of the world better. If I see trash and I pick it up that is helping the world. If I see somebody in need and help them, thats helping this world, and that makes me happy, because it makes me a co-creator of a better world.
Honestly I do not know what my little unborn niece is going to be like. All I know is she is going to be a beautiful little girl. She was special before that lady ever spoke to me about her, and she will be special no matter what she turns out to be. If she is a "Crystal" child, whatever that maybe then, I will not allow my family to suppress that. She will be what she will be. If she turns out to have no "special abilities" thats ok too. She is special because she is my sisters daughter. I am however firmly convinced that she is one of my soulmates, and for that reason alone I am ecstatic for her birth. What special abilities she has in comparison to other humans, if any, remain to be seen. As long as she is healthy and happy, I will be happy.

posted February 26, 2009 11:18 PM              

Having your sun there may mean your identity and self are directly tied to the expression of these energies.Pholus can either be the opening of your awareness to these energies, or inability to see them.

oneruledbymars What a great post about the whole labeling conundrum. I feel exactly the same.I am not a fan of the New-Agefied concept, but do not negate the reality of their existence.
Uranus in the 1st here too -and labeling of any kind puts my back up.

posted February 27, 2009 02:30 AM              

"r younger brother's chart is technically my chart"
Wow, what a synchronicity!

"Have you ever had any interdimensional experiences? (If you don't mind me asking)"
What do you mean by interdimensional?
I`ve had some weird experiences (during meditations mostly), but don`t know what it is called.

"Quinnie -thank you for the confirmation, I thought that Retro DNA was suspect, turning up all the time in these cases!"
I must have missed this one. What does Retro DNA signify?

"DD- is your(or anyone's in your family) DNA retro? I have a feeling your brother's might be."
You were absolutely right.

My DNA isn`t retro, but my youngest brother`s is. It`s also in Libra and it conjuncts my Pluto almost exactly and opposes the midpoint of his Venus-Mars-conjunction in Aries.

My middle brother has DNA in Aries, but not retro. (his DNA conjuncts my IC and my youngest brother`s Mars).

My mum`s DNA is in Capricorn, but not retro (interestingly my youngest brother`s girlfirend`s DNA is conjunct my mother`s DNA and they are very much alike).

My Dad`s DNA is in Virgo and it is also Retro (exactly conjunct my Mum`s moon and trine her DNA).

My Aunt has a DNA-Venus conjunction in Libra (but not retro) (it conjuncts my MC and opposes my middle brother`s DNA and my youngest brotherīs Mars).

I thought it is interesting, that of the 5 members of our family, 3 have DNA in Libra.

posted February 27, 2009 03:33 AM              

I am absolutely enjoying this thread even though it has digressed a lot. The meaning is that Trans-Neptunians can royally kick the butt of Royal Reptilians anytime. So all we have to do is transcend the negativity of our reptilian dna components and connect to our own Trans-Neptunian consciousness to prosper beyond any 2012 events.

posted February 27, 2009 09:10 AM            

The Atlantis/Uranus connection is interesting as well. In my chart Atlantis opposes Uranus/Asc in my chart, its a wide 5/6 degree orb though.

I think I will start a thread on this to see, what everyones is, so we don't highjack IQ thread, lol

IQ-
you wrote:
"That is one super-experience ORBM!
We can easily spot the past lifeline connections with your niece, make sure you get the birth time very accurately. Maybe she will have Capricorn Asc 2-3 degrees conj Pluto!"

It was..Still trying to make sense of it. I was thinking that too. After she is born I will post her chart. It should be very interesting, because my brother in law is of mixed ethnicity too. Almost identical to my ratios. So she like me also have genetics of half black and half white, with about 15-20 percent American indian thrown in. lol God! Don't give her that much energy, it will be like babysitting lil Chucky at first! lol

"I am absolutely enjoying this thread even though it has digressed a lot. The meaning is that Trans-Neptunians can royally kick the butt of Royal Reptilians anytime. So all we have to do is transcend the negativity of our reptilian dna components and connect to our own Trans-Neptunian consciousness to prosper beyond any 2012 events."

Sorry about the digress part. I have a bad habit of highjacking threads with random stories, I need to stop that, lol. I am beginning to think it is very important to intergrate the energies available to Reptillians into our Psyche. Maybe that energy is more available to people with strong Rep DNA.

I just looked up my strongest soulmate connection to date.

We have a Kaali-Mars opposition DW for starters.
His Kaali 2 Libra my Mars 7 Aries (wide I know)
My Kaali 7 Leo his Mars 9 Aquarius

His Kaali (2 Libra) Opposes my Vesta (0 Aries)
My Kaali (7 Leo) Sextiles his DNA (7 Libra) and trines his Uranus (6 Sag)
Also my Siva (9 Cap) is Conj his Venus (12 Cap) and semi his Mars (9 Aqar)
His siva (28 Sag)- opposes my Jupiter(29 Cancer)/Tara (28 Cancer), Squares My Mercury (29 Pisces)and widely Squares my Venus (22 Deg Pisces)

That explains the tantric aspects to our sex. We lit candles and played music. It was all very spiritual. We even had an incident where all remember is having sex and then waking up about an hr later with no recollection of what happened. This all makes sense now.

His Atlantis is quincunx Uranus with a 3 orb. Interesting...

And he has:

Kaali at 2 Libra:

Widely Conj DNA @ 7 Libra
(which is Semi Sex my Kaali a 7 Leo)
Sextile Atlantis at 3 Cancer
Sextile NN at 4 Cancer
Widely Sextile Siva at 28 Sag
Semi Sex Pluto at 29 Libra
Semi Sex Saturn at 2 Scorpio
Square Sun at 0 Cap

(whoa)

And his Siva at 28 Sag:

Conj Galactic Center
Conj Sun at 0 Cap
Conj Nep at 26 Sag
Semi Sex Jup at 29 Scorp
Sex Pluto at 29 Libra
Trine Semir at 29 Leo

Cant believe I have never looked further at his chart! ...Does that mean that he has strong Repitillian DNA/Bloodlines)? Because it makes not aspects to his Venus.
I don't have his parents information yet so I guess I can't check them.

DD, Redstar-
My Parents DNA make wide aspects to mine.
Mine is at 13 Libra
My Dads is at 11 Scorp
My Moms is at 17 Cap
But my sister's opposes it exactly at 13 Aries.

I have always had a special connection with her. We have always felt like twins. How wierd is that?

My DNA is retro also!
But no one elses is.

What is the sig of retro DNA?