posted March 03, 2009 08:21 AM              

yes, somehow the Babylonians try sneaking in everywhere, no matter what time period I am looking at. I start thinking this may have been one of my most significant and maybe even "defining" life times.

If I start a thread on my Babylonians, would you have a look at t hem?

EDIT:
Looking at the rest of my family:

my DAD:
Drake conjuncts Moon and squares Hekate and inconjunct Draconia and Kaali (Yod)

Retro Draconia trines Hekate and sextiles Kaali

my MUM:
Drake conjunct Venus

Draconia widely conjunct Siva

my middle brother:

Drake conjunct Sun sextile Moon and square Chiron

Draconia conjunct NN and squares Kaali

my Aunt:
Retro Drake conjuncts NN, quinkunx Sun, squaring Siva and Hekate

Draconia squares Kaali

posted March 03, 2009 08:45 AM            

Drake in my Chart is at:
17 Deg Cancer:

Conj Lust 18 Deg Cancer
Conj Pandora 19 Cancer
Exactly opposes Ishtar 17 Cap
Opposes Queen 19 Cap
Quincunx King 18 Sag
Quincunx Kleopatra at 17 Sag
Trine My Asc at 18 Scorp
Trine Uranus at 19 Scorp
Trine PTAH at 18 Pisces
Trine Family name at 15 Pisces (kind of wide)
Square Pluto 17 Libra
Semi Sext Amun at 17 Gem
Sextiles Hathor at 17 Taurus
Sextiles NN/Musa at 16 Virgo

Drako is at 26 Taurus:

Conjunct Horus at 27 Taurus
Semi Sex Sun at 26 Aries
Trine Mesopatamia/Parvarti at 27 Cap
Square Pallas 24 Deg Aquarius
Square IC at 25 Deg Aquarius
Square Pythia 27 Leo
Sextile Tara/Babel/Orcus at 28 Cancer
Sextile Pholus at 25 Pisces
Sextile (wide) Talent/Merc at 29 Pisces
Sextile Jupiter (wide) 29 Cancer
Quincunx Reiki at 24 Deg Sag
Quincunx Somnium 28 Libra

Thats kind of interesting. All those aspects but no
Venus. Things that make you go hmmm.

DD-
That show does sound interesting.
I didnt know it involved ETs.
I guess thats what they are preparing the general population for though, so it makes sense.

posted March 03, 2009 09:19 AM            

Ok we saw that mine had alot of aspects but no Venus or Kaali:

Ok well DD inspired me (as usual) to look at my parents and sister look at what I found!:

My sister has:

Drake at 6 Gem:
Quincunx:
Hygeia at 6 Scorp
Kaali at 3 Scorp
Siva at 3 Cap
Sextile Sun at 3 Leo

Drako at 16 Leo-
Con Mars at 17 Leo
Trine IC at 15 Aries
Trine Chiron at 17 Leo
Sextile Uranus at 14 Libra
Sextile Saturn at 16 Gemini

Mom-
Drako at 21 Cap:

Trines Venus at 23 Cap
Square Sun at 19 Aries
Sex NN at 18 Pisces
Square Nep at 18 Libra

Drake at 25 Cancer:

Nearly opposes Drako at 21 Cap
Opposes Salome at 23 Cancer
Sextile Moon at 26 Degrees Taurus
Sextile Saturn at 27 Degrees Virgo
Sextile her Venus at 23 Degrees Taurus
Trine Jupiter at 27 Pisces (explains her love of Religion)

Wait till you see Dads:

His Drake at 6 Leo:

Conj Moon at 5 Leo
Square Venus at 6 Scorpio
Square Sun at 9 Scorpio

Drako at 11 Scorpio:
Conj Mecury at 10 Scorp
Conj DNA at 11 Scorpio
Semi Sextile Angel at 14 Libra

I think I am going to look at the Egyptian Asteroids.
Intuitiion tells me there is something there.

posted March 03, 2009 09:44 AM              

interesting, my Dad also has a Drake-Moon-conjunction in cardinal / fixed (Moon on 1 Taurus, Drake on 29 Aries).

I`ll have a closer look later.
I`m tempted to also include Jude`s connections, especially since I had a look at the DNA-connection to my family (conjunction / opposition within a 2 degree orb):

His DNA:

opposes my Pluto (0)

opposes my Dad`s Mars (0)
conjuncts my Dad`s NN (0)

opposes my Mum`s Saturn (0)

conjuncts my youngest brother`s Mars (2)
opposes his DNA (1)

my Mum`s DNA conjuncts his Antivertex (0)

my middle brother`s DNA opposes his Pluto (0) and conjuncts his IC (4)

my youngest brother`s DNA conjuncts his MC (2) and opposes his Chiron (2)

my Aunt`s DNA conjuncts his Pluto (0)

Oh and yes my DNA conjuncts his Uranus (2)

(I haven`t even looked at asteroids)

EDIT:

Well, I always suspected as a child they were hiding my Twinbrother from me.

posted March 03, 2009 10:07 AM            

Drake in 10'09 Aquarius in 5th
Aphrodite in 9'46 Aquarius in 5th
North Node in 10'23 Aquarius in 5th
Chiron in 10'29 Aries R in 8th
Innanen in 9'39 Libra in 2nd
Midheaven in 11'15 Gemini
DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius in 3rd/4th
Mesopotamia in 11'35 Sagittarius in 4th
Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius in 4th

Borasisi is a kuiper belt object,and so it's a transneptunian. therefore, it relates to the metaphysical.

Borasisi: From Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle, meaning the Sun in Bokonon cosmology. Orbital Period 290.32

Positive: sense of authority, dominion, mandates, confidence to declare personal power, open-minded, captain-like attitude, quick orders and delegation.

Negative: dictatorial or an imperial attitude, the emperor's clothes, distortion of data, cherry-picking facts, opinionated, blind one's own bigotry, solipsism.

Mundane: relations with offspring, propaganda, mandates, lobbying, political appointments, crony-ism

Ceremonial: Enacting affirmations, declarations, setting one's rules of soulful communication and cosmic law. http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Inanna was Sumerian Goddess of Love that died in Underworld and was resurrected after 3 days.
Ishtar was her Babylonian counterpart

posted March 03, 2009 11:41 AM              

In some way she reminds me much more of Kali / Parvati and Sekhmet / Bast than of Venus / Aphrodite.

All these goddesses seem to include both sides - love and war, death and birth-, something that Venus (in the usual context) is lacking.

posted March 03, 2009 11:48 AM            

when I think of Venus in Scorpio, I think of Inanna.

BTW......There is a book on Mythological Astrology. Inanna is the deity compared to Venus in Scorpio.

posted March 03, 2009 12:25 PM              

Interestingly I have Venus square Pluto, which is similiar, and Inanna conjuncts my SN (and Kaali) and trines my Pluto and Aphrodite.

I`ve been looking at the aspects of my family, using DNA, Karma, Drake, Draconia, Kaali, Siva, Hekate, Atlantis and Giza (don`t ask me why I used Giza, this idea had been in my head all at once)

Interestingly, all members in my family except for my mother have retograde Saturn.

DAD:

Kaali sextile DNA
Kaali sextile Hekate

Drake conjunct Moon
Drake square Hekate

retro DNA conjunct retro Draconia
retro Draconia sextile Kaal and trine HEkate

retro Atlantis conjunct ASC
retro Atlantis conjunct retro Saturn
retro Atlantis trine Karma
retro Atlantis trine Giza
retro Atlantis square Chiron

Giza trine Karma

MUM

retro Kaali sextile Atlantis

retro Hekate square MOon
retro Hekate opposite Chiron

Drake conjunct Venus

Draconia square Sun
Draconia conjunct Siva
Draconia sextile Retro Giza

Giza square Chiron

my AUNT

retro Kaal oposite Venus and DNA
retro Kaali square Draconia

hekate trine Sun
hekate square NN
hekate square Dretro Drace
Hekate opposite Siva

retro Drake conjunct NN, quinkunx Sun and square Siva

Draconia square DNA and trine Atlantis

Giza trine retro Saturn
Giza trine Karma

Chiron quinkunx Giza

my middle brother (the one that is mentally handicapped)

Kaali sextile DNA
Kaali square Draconia

hekate sextile Venus
Hekate square Pluto

Drake conjunct Sun
Drake sextile Moon
Drake square NN
Drake square Chiron
DRake sextile Venus
Drake trine Giza

retro Atlantis square Karma

Giza trine Sun
Giza sextile Moon
giza quinkunx Chiron
Giza opposite Siva

my youngest brother:

retro Kaali conjunct retro DNA
retro Kaali sextile Moon
retro Kaali oposite Venus
retro Kaali quinkunx Drake

Hekate square Moon
hekate quinkunx retro DNA with orb of 0°00

Drake conjunct Sun

Draconia sextile ASC
Draconia conjunct Chiron and LIlith

Atlantis square ASC
Atlantis conjunct IC
Atlantis trine retro Pluto
Atlantis square Siva

retro Giza trine NN
retro Giza conjunct retro Saturn

my own aspects:

retro Kaali conjunct SN
retro Kaali square Draconia

Hekate square ASC
Hekate trine Venus
Hekate square Atlantis

Drake sextile Sun
Drace conjunct DNA (3.2)
Drace opposite retro Chiron (3.3)

Draconia trine retro Saturn
Draconia square Retro Kaali and retro Karma
Draconia trine Siva

Atlantis conjunct NN
Atlantis conjunct ASC
Atlantis sextile Pluto
Atlantis trine Giza

Giza trine NN
Giza opposite Pluto

posted March 03, 2009 12:40 PM            

Do you think that you could contact me on yahoo messenger?

my ID is astynaz

posted March 03, 2009 01:26 PM              

sorry but I do not have instant messenger.

posted March 05, 2009 01:34 AM              

quote:

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If I start a thread on my Babylonians, would you have a look at t hem?

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Yes I would.
Maybe we can do that in that offshore thread?
But I would definitely take a look - I think your chart is filled with little reminders of the past.Very clearly too.

My sun conjuncts your draconia, (no wonder we have these indepth discussions!)

Your Drake and Draconia are pretty aspected.

If we go with the association of dragons with wisdom, then it would give you access to the wisdom of the ages (karma& DNA aspects), in particular concerning your Babylonian times (aspecting related asteroids).

What do you think?

Thank you for the data on your family.
Your mum,dad, younger brother and auntie have
quite strong aspect too.Maybe it's telling us that the energy is there, even if unexpressed - hence thankfully not all members of your family have active/dominant Kaali/venus/pluto/sun aspects?

I'm thinking Mr. Jude indeed has a little reptile in him, whether he knows it or not.
Too many red flags there.
But it would certainly explain, (in a small part, to me at least) your attraction, and the connection you have.
Imagine if you two ever met!
I'm convinced he is your long lost twin too now

ORBM I would imagine you could potentially channel some awesome sexual energy with those aspects!
NO aspect to Venus is good.
It seems yours, just like DD's with the Babylonians, seem to hit asteroids that deal with possible past lifestreams and archetypal energies.Maybe these asteroids facilitate access to those energies?

Whoa your parents' Drake and Draco are pretty heavily aspected! I really need to figure out what they mean now!

Did you check the chart of the one with whom you shared those awesome Kaali/siva/etc connections? I wonder if his chart has them as active players too.

Glaucus thats interesting, yours are also
involved in aspecting asteroids that can be historically indicative.

I wonder if in this case we can read these two asteroids as possible knowledge activators regarding certain places/times, and our connections to them - be it genetically, spiritually or in any other way.
(I never got to thank you for posting those greatly informative articles on the Indigo kids and neurodivergence - Thank You!)

posted March 06, 2009 09:59 AM            

Yes that is something that I am still struggling to understand.
I am aware that there is immense power in the mastery of human sexuality thats why it is so repressed by society. Re-learning that is proving to be a not so easy task, but I guess that knowledge comes all in due time. I do feel the power in sex though, especially sense my connection with that soulmate.
Here are his Natal aspects by the way:

His Drake is at 9 degrees Aquarius:

Not far from his MC which is 5 Aquarius
Exactly conjunct his Mars at 9 Aquarius
Conjunct his Hekate at 7 Aquarius
Trine his Uranus at 6 Sag
Trine his Amor at 8 Sag
Square his Drako at 7 Taurus
Exactly Square his Psyche at 9 Scorpio
Semi Sextile his Venus at 12 Cap

In Synastry his Drake at 9 Aqua:

Conj my Psyche at 7 Aquarius
Conj my Eros at 12 Aquarius
Oppose my Kaali at 7 Leo
Opposes Discovery 11 Leo
Semi Sext my Siva at 9 Cap
Semi Sextile Osiris at 12 Pisces
Quincunx my Nessus at 10 Cancer
Quincunx my Saturn at 7 Virgo
Quincunx my Angel at 11 Virgo
Sextiles my Mars at 7 Aries
Sextiles my Isis at 10 Aries
Sextiles my Lucifer at 11 Aries
Trines Varun at 11 Gemini
Squares Quaoa at 11 Scorp

His Drako at 7 Degrees Taurus:

Opposes his Psyche at 9 Scorp
Square his Nessus at 4 Leo
Square his Hekate at 7 Taurus
Sextile his Echo at 5 Pisces
Sextile his Endymion at 8 Pisces
Quincunx DNA at 7 Libra
Quincunx Amor at 8 Sag
Quincunx Uranus at 6 Sag

In Synastry his Drako at 7 Taurus:

Conjunct my Amor at 7 Taurus
Conj my Chiron at 8 Taurus
Conj my Endymion 6 Taurus (interesting)
Conj my Babylon at 6 Taurus
Opposes my Tyche at 6 Scorpio
Trines my Siva at 9 Cap
Exactly Trines my Saturn at 7 Virgo
Exactly Squares my Kaali at 7 Leo
Exactly Sextiles my Stonehenge at 7 Pisces
Exactly Sextiles my Nefertiti at 7 Cancer
Sextile my tara at 9 Cancer
Semi Endo at 6 Aries
Semi Mars at 7 Aries

Interesting....
I definitely practiced if not mastered Tantrik sex with this man in a pastlife. I just looked up our Vestas.
look at this

My Vesta at 0 Aries:
Is Conjunct my Merc/Talent at 29 Pisces

Exactly Square his Sun at 0 Cap
Conjunct his Aphrodite at 1 Degree Aries
Opposes his Kaali at 2 Libra
Square his Sappho at 1 Cap
Square his Siva at 28 Sag
Exactly Trine his Cupido at 0 Sag
Trine his Jupiter at 29 Scorp
Quincunx his Pluto at 29 Libra
Quincunx his Saturn at 2 Scorpio
Semi Sextile his Vesta at 3 Pisces

His Vesta at 3 Pisces is:
(Quincunx his Kaali at 2 Libra, Sextile his Sun at 0 Cap, Trine his NN at 4 Cancer

Conjunct my Sekhmet 5 Deg Pisces
Conjunct my Giza at 2 Pisces
Conjunct my name Asteroid at 4 Pisces
Conjunct my Sumeria at 3 Pisces
Opposes my Spirit exactly at 3 Virgo
Sextile Astro at 4 Cap
Quincunx Hyperborea at 3 Leo
Quincunx my Actor at 4 Libra (he was the biggest motivating force in me pursuing my Acting career, just put those two together, wow)

Whats interesting is that his Vesta energy was clearly more motivating Spiritually for me, and mine was more motivating sexually and Karmically for him......that is why we met.
I say Karmicly because of Satun.
And the fact that his Karma and Angel asteroid are conjunct my Sun and his Spirit asteroid opposes my Sun.

Astrology truly is amazing.....

posted March 06, 2009 10:22 AM              

"aybe we can do that in that offshore thread?"
I have posted my Babylonian there, and ind doing so realized, that my Babylon is exactly conjunct Arcturus.

"If we go with the association of dragons with wisdom, then it would give you access to the wisdom of the ages (karma& DNA aspects), in particular concerning your Babylonian times (aspecting related asteroids)."
Yes, I definitely think my intuitive and astrological skills originated there.

"hence thankfully not all members of your family have active/dominant Kaali/venus/pluto/sun aspects? "
No I don`t think so.
My mum and me at least haven`t those.
I think they may be most prominent in my youngest brother and my aunt.

"I'm thinking Mr. Jude indeed has a little reptile in him,"
LOL the way you put it made me think of something like a "symbiont". Yes, I have seen too much Stargate I fear.

However, yes, I think you´re right. Sometimes, when you look closely at him, there is something in his eyes, something that just sparks / flares up for the tiniest moment and then fades away. Some sort of gleam. I don`t know it`s hard to describe.

"Imagine if you two ever met!"
Well, we won`t actually be "meeting". But at least I`m going to see him this summer from the centre seat in first row. Well, that centre- first row thing wasn`t my idea, I swear!
But I guess I will have a good view on stage from there.

posted March 06, 2009 10:32 AM            

Never say never. The way things are going form my career now, you never know who I might end up working with. And boy would I have a story for him! lol
*innocent look*

posted March 06, 2009 11:33 AM            

*innocent voice*
(in addition to the already present *innocent look*

*avoiding eye contact and twiddling thumbs now*

posted March 06, 2009 12:11 PM            

Im gonna get IQ to figure the odds......just to make sure...

posted March 06, 2009 12:15 PM            

I wonder if laughter has something to do with Venus and Kaali Bloodlines.....

No...?

posted March 06, 2009 03:56 PM            

Amazing synchronicities with your aspects guys!

posted March 06, 2009 10:51 PM            

Quinnie-
Actor is at 4 Degrees Libra in my Chart.
It does have some interesting aspects to it.

It is my 11th house.
widely opposing Mars at 7 Aries
opposing Echo at 6 Aries
opposing Tut at 5 Aries
Quincunx Endymion at 6 Taurus
Quincunx Babylon at 6 Taurus
Quincunx Sumeria at 3 Pisces
Quincunx Giza at 2 Pisces
Quincunx Sekhmet at 5 Pisces
Quincunx My Name Asteroid exactly at 4 Pisces
Sextile Tyche at 6 Scorp
Sextile Hyperborea at 3 Leo
Square Vertex at 5 Cancer
Square Astro at 4 Cap
Trine Adonis at 5 Aquarius
Trine Urda at 3 Gem
Widely Trine Psyche at 7 Aquarius
widely semi sextile Saturn at 7 Virgo
semi sextile Spirit at 3 Virgo

Its funny how you guys are always drawing my attention to things here. I have had this feeling that I have mentioned before on here like I am going to play a role in an Egyptian themed movie. I have had many dreams about it. And its funny that my Actor asteroids makes aspects to major Egyptian Asteroids. Things that make you go hmmm.
Also the overall theme of the aspects seem to be that of a very intense actor, (Tyche, Urda, Echo, Endym) its almost like my acting energy is gifted with the ability to connect to peoples subconscious. And thats wierd because thats how I have always approached the art of acting that I am developing. With intensity, so that it can make a difference in this world and waken people from this worlds induced comatose state.

Also I just checked and my Shakespeare Asteroid at 13 Taurus is exactly conjunct Atlantis, 5 degrees from my DC. Quincunx DNA/Magnam at 13 Libra. Trine Angel at 11 Virgo. Trine NN/Musa at 16 Virgo. Sextile Osiris at 12 Pisces. Trine Anubis at 14 Cap. Sextile Sphinx. Sextile Semir/Sirius

And Euter at 7 Mars is exactly Conjunct my Mars and
Exactly oppose my Saturn. Sextiles Psyche at 7 Aquarius.
And Trines Kaali at 7 Leo. Semi Sextile Aura/Stonehenge at 7 Pisces

posted March 06, 2009 11:08 PM              

It represents a lesson that is hard to integrate and may be uncomfortable, but HAS to be learned-no getting out of,fated type of situation set-up.
So being it is your Actor asteroid in the public-oriented 11th house (linking exactly to your name asteroid) thats making all thesse quincunxes to the Egyptian group -I would say something is definitely up.

*will be seeing you soon on the big screen amids the pyramids buddy *

Quinnie

quote:

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My asc is at 14 Libra
Wisdom at 13 Libra
Draconia at 11 Libra

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You be as wise as the serpent
(as they used to say...)