posted February 19, 2009 05:30 AM              

This topic needs its own message string. This is the most dangerous topic to discuss because 99.99% of masses will dismiss it as conspiracy lunacy. Even those in the know will find plenty of ridicule thanks to David Icke's over sensationalization of the topic.
I can say that no Indian besides me in my nation of one billion knows [or shall I say cares?] about the Reptilian-Alien-Human bloodlines.

Even what I know or you know may not be 100% true, some could be unintentional disinformation.

However, if we collect all that we know, it will be extremely beneficial.

There will be plenty of astrology discussed too because I have with me the chart of one of the most powerful hybrid incarnations in the planet today. She is currently 'playing' the role of a Serbian Woman. She has the benefit of past life recalls beyond Lemuria [She has a parallel life as an emanation of Hekate and Kaali in the Astral Plane] and she has the ability to Astral Travel into several alien battleships off the Kuipers Belt. And she too is a victim of the bloodline politics in this lifeline.

Many do not know that the Reptilian Ruling bloodlines commit more crimes against those who have a higher reptilian Dna than other humans simply because the ruling families are scared of competetion. I am not against the millions of hybrids or Reptilian heavy folk, nor consider them to be big evil, it is the ruling families alone and their committee of corrupt govt controllers who perpetrate evils.

Supposing this thread gets too controversial, we can discuss this on other forums.

posted February 19, 2009 07:34 AM              

I was not sure if posting on such a topic would be wise on here, but curiosity and the need to know won over in the end

Most of what I know on this subject is subjective unfortunately, and as such has zero academic value.

I am sure that my attempts at understanding this matter are still very juvenile,utterly incomplete, and some are most likely erroneous.

It seems there is most certainly an astrological correlation present here.
Up until about 2 years ago, I would've said that to see such things from a natal chart would be impossible!
Now I know better.

I wish more people would wake up and become aware of the world around them. Alas it is a bitter pill to swallow for many.

Now I am at a loss, and don't know where to start, because there are so many things I want to write about and describe, to see how sound they are,and to delve as far into all of this as may be permitted to us.

May I ask as to the difference between a heavily Reptilian person, and a hybrid?
(Please excuse my lack of knowledge)

The things that exist and that we are, are mindblowing.

posted February 19, 2009 07:49 AM            

(and also thank you SO much for your previous input, didn't quite know where to post this)

I'm dying to find out what that chart looks like.

posted February 19, 2009 08:42 AM              

And i think everyone here can share it all - i have been here for more than 2 years now and i have neved seen knowflakes beeing bad to others just becaus of controversial issues - by the contrary!The more controversial,the more good discussions can be made!!

BTW - IQ talking about aliens and Space...yesterday i have talked with J.about the things you said about his chart regarding strong placements in Space asteroids - i wanted to know if i can ask you to take a close look to his chart regarding this particular reality?

I am very surprised but the more i talk with him about these things,the more he believes and trusts in me - he wasn´t like this before.

But is much more open about spirituality,the past,reincarnation and stuff.
And i do think that knowing us in depth makes us more evolved.And helps in our unanswered questions.

posted February 19, 2009 12:35 PM              

We have infleunces on Earth from Sirians, Arcturians, Antares, Lyreans, Alpha Draconis types, Aldebarians, Pleadians, Andromedans and some very high Galactic Councils. This is why the Ascendant is important, Asc conj Fixed Star enables the native to access knowledge from these beings, mostly in dreams and symbols.
[I do not trust channeled info as there is Satellite Technology in place to disrupt this. ]

I also mentioned Kuiper Belt Aliens (KBA). I did not believe that at first but then their contact predicted months before that the Large Hadron Collider in europe will be electromagnetically damaged by the KBA.
And what happened? The Hadron Collider malfunctioned as if on cue! This Collider had a very dark purpose by the negative powers, something complicated like Artifical Black Holes, Star Gates and Time Travel vortices.

posted February 19, 2009 01:28 PM              

Yet there are two things I have to think of.
The first thing is that I always thought it possible that alien lifeforms not only exist but maybe have visited earth (I was never sure about this; I just thought it was a possibility).

Also, as probably everyone knows by now, I`m pretty fascinated with Jude Law.
The film that got me completely enthralled and made me think has the title "The wisdom of crocodiles".
I never liked that title, it just sent shivers down my spine. However, they renamed it for the american market to "Immortality", which never never fit the film.
It`s an intriguing movie, which triggers a lot of thought (at least in me), and which made me understand myself and some of my emotional reactions better (but usually all movies with Jude do that. He seems to choose his movies just so I can learn from them. lol).

Even though there are many many scenes that mean a lot to me, there is one scene when his character explains the existence of the "three brains", including the "crocodile" or "reptile" brain.
It was the first time I heard of it, and I felt an immediate reaction. It kinda "rang a bell" so to speak.

Well, I know it`s not the same, but it somehow reminded me of that film.

And so I think I`ll keep on reading here what you write and am curious about it.

(oh btw Jude hasn`t Kaali conjunct Venus, but Kaali exactly conjunct Sun and exactly square DNA, does that count, too?)

Also, IQ, what you wrote about people with strong Reptilian DNA, that they can also mobilize that strength to defend themselves or others in seemingly hopeless situations, it made me understand a scene in that movie better, which didn`t make much sense to me before.

It`s really interesting how enigmatic that movie is. Whenever I feel now I have understood the metaphors and what it means, there seems to be yet another new aspect coming up.
Well, maybe it has to do with the Chinese director of that movie, maybe the Chinese way of thinking, just so much more multilayered than my superficial European one.

Sorry I don`t want to highjack that thread; just saying that I`ll be reading it.

posted February 19, 2009 08:44 PM              

I am aware of a lot of negativity and fear being present around this conundrum of a subject, and I am sure it is with good reason that its there.

My only point of reference is myself, and those few that I know to embody certain traits that fit this line of thinking without the slightest doubt on my behalf.

I also believe that there are KBA presence there IQ, I do not know to what purpose and why, but they are there.

This woman does make a difference to this world by merely being here.I hope she does write a book one day

IQ have you looked at asteroids Hekate,Lucifer,lilith (their commonly preconceived associations aside) alongside Kaali and Siva in prominence, or aspecting the angles in charts? They seems to pop up very frequently in the charts of the families I looked at.
Angular especially, or aspecting Karma seems to be the pattern.

*I should note however that I started off studying these charts, before I ended up in this Reptilian Bloodlines business, looking for astrological markers in families with a strong streak of 'psychic' experiencers of the type that hold and practice old belief systems of magic.So there may indeed be cross-contamination when it comes to determining which factors are which. You may be able to make more sense in this realm.

With my small sample size, ther seems to also be a strong correlation between the practitioners of those magics, and the Venus(Pluto)/KAALI bunch, especially in marriages.
I apologize if this is all already evident and known to you- I am just getting it all spelled out to me by the universe *

Darkdreamer - I am not sure about sun/KAALI aspects-but who knows? It certainly must mean something. It's great to see how much insight you have gathered from that movie, and you seem to have read into it on a whole new meta level that held many discoveries for you.

posted February 19, 2009 11:03 PM            

I own a Lemurian laser wand which l saw in a reputable crystal shop one day. I went home that night and didn't sleep a wink.. the crystal drove me nuts all night bugging me. In the morning l went back to the shop and had to buy the crystal. This was a big deal as it was £700 but l had a link with that wand and until i owned it, it was going to hassle me!

Anyway, it holds a lot of info on Lemuria and l know that when l evolve a bit more l am supposed to retrieve the info or maybe i've already retrieved it and the info is in my subconscious ready for 'popping'.

It is full of crevices and indentations, almost like a language is written on it. It's not just lines but symbols. It's pretty remarkable!

Anyway, l thought i'd share that...

EDIT : OMG my man has venus/kaali EXACT square ! and my FATHER has venus/kaali exact opposition. OMG

posted February 20, 2009 12:10 AM              

I'm am unfortunately not experienced enough with conjunctions to fixed stars to assess your placements Lara, maybe IQ will shed some light there
Check your father's parents' charts, and see if they have any KAALI/Venus or KAALI/Pluto links natally. Possibly you could check for SIVA/Pluto also, but I am not 100% sure about that last one yet.

What are these two men in your life like as people?

posted February 20, 2009 03:59 AM            

Redstar keep the reading going!

So what Venus/Kaali aspects indicate stellar dna? All cross aspects?

posted February 20, 2009 04:04 AM            

So parts of channelled info may have truth to it but it's good to remain objective and have scepticism.

Iq in my chart DNA squares horus/angel does that mean stellar influence?

Does a soul from say Sirius have to incarnate into a body with certain Dna?

posted February 20, 2009 04:44 AM              

a) maximum objectivity and skepticism so that nobody should feel compelled to believe this stuff just because people with credibility are posting info.
b) No ridicule of anybody by anyone disbelieving the info.
c) Maximum positivity for those believing the info that we can transcend the worst of the evils from the worst of the evil groups by having trust in God and a deep connection to our Higher Self.

I am writing the maximum info compressed into essays, this is 10+ years of research.
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There are many Alien Astronaut theories. Compelling evidence comes thanks to the apriori prediction by Robert Temple that Sirius has a third Star, thanks to his research with the DOGON Tribe in Africa, decades before the Hubble Telescope. Debunkers shamelessly slithered away when Sirius C was discovered. The Dogon spoke of Dolphin type "gods" giving them this information.

Too many cultures speak of "gods" who came down in "fiery birds" teaching new wisdom for it to be dismissed as superstition. When you combine the Pyramid Structures in these civilizations, we are forced to connect the dots as to the Alien Involvement. Erich Von Danikken and Zecharia Sitchin have provided enough evidence of historical anomalies.
For the most pig headed skeptics and possibly paid disinformer skpetics, the 35 km long NAZCA drawings should be enough that we had alien visitors, not to mention the impossibility of building the Giza Pyramid even with modern technology.

The description in Mahabharata,an ancient Indian text, of an explosion from divine weapons being brighter than a thousand suns is clearly a nuclear weapons descripton for anyone with brains. The book seems to describe many battles between Angels and Demons [Asuras]. Clearly, human collective unconsious is relating to Celestial Battles.
This is what may have been tapped by Lucas and Spielberg in their discussions for Star Wars, which connected with the public instantaneously.

So there were Stellar Battles where many races could have taken part. Refugees may have come to Earth and combined with the evolving hominids. Fine, but what of all the Snakes and Dragons in myth?

The most comprehensive theory has been put forward by ex-CIA Black Ops Psychic/Mentalist and Montauk Boy Stewart Swerdlow.
A race of Draconians [pure reptilian DNA] from another Universe had made themselves extinct. A powerful group of ET Souls called Transparent People asked the Sirian Race to reuse this DNA to re-create the Dragon Race in our Universe.
They succeeded. This Race came into conflict with Lyraens [Pure Mammalian Humans] who were existing mainly in the Astral Plane but were tempted by the Transparents to incarnate physically as well. This could be the "FALL" of mankind.
The Draconians had technology from the Sirians to create blackholes at will and target them to enemy planets/stars [this explains the Large Hadron Collider and the memory recovered in the Death Star scene of Star Wars...], they wrecked the life in Lyrea. Lyrean refugees came to Mars and ultimately Earth to establish the Atlantis Civilization. The Draconians already had Earth Base in the form of the Lemurian Civilization. The Atlantis Humans avenged Lyra by blasting Lemuria into the oceans but by the Law of Karma, they too succumbed to the Astral Black Magick of the Reptilians they destroyed. In a massive misuse of black magick and crystal technology, even Atlantis was destroyed. Many Lemurian Draco went undergound [Shambhala? Agartha?] and are still occupying nests beneath the Earth's surface.

Earth had been advertised to the Galaxy thanks to these mess ups so Higher Ups led by the Christ Consciousness Arch Angel Group enabled a new expereiment for healing.

12 Star System DNA were combined with existing Atlantis DNA and a Reptilian DNA base [13th Sign, Ophichius the Serpent Bearer?]. Different races were formed by the ensuing genetic hybridization, those with more Atlantis DNA are Scottish, Celts, Persians and Arabs. Hebrews had more Sirian DNA, Romans and Greeks had more Arcturan DNA, Indians, Mayans, Incans and Chinese had more lemurian reptilian + ( Pleadian ?) DNA, Germans and Nordics had ALdebaran DNA, SLavic people had URSA/Bear DNA and Khazari Jews and some Anglo-Saxon tribes had close to 50% reptilian DNA. Notice the conquest spirit of the nations, the more the conquering spirit, the mre the Reptilian Percenatge. There are 7 castes of Reptilian DNA too, the ruling elite have the DNA of White Winged Blue Eyed Draco. The non conquering reptilian humans have more of slave/beehive type draco dna.

The ones with the maximum reptilian percentage quickly grasped power and formed Royal Bloodlines, claiming divine right from gods/Aliens. They secretly kept the Atlantis and Lemurian Ritual knowledge and the connection to all Astral Entities. To this day, they rule the planet albeit with heavy infighting.

posted February 20, 2009 05:18 AM            

That's interesting that you said that

in my chart:

Ixion conjunct Sun with 5 minutes of arc
and trine my Moon with 2'15 orb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28978_Ixion

Quaoar conjunct Sun with 2'58 orb
and trine Moon with 49 minutes of arc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaoar

Haumea conjunct Ascendant with 2'10 orb
and square Midheaven with 3 minutes of arc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_(dwarf_planet)

My DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius
conjunct My Imum Coeli in 11'14 Sagittarius/Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
conjunct Mesopotamia in 11'38 Sagittarius
conjunct Astraea in 12'11 Sagittarius
conjunct Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius
conjunct Aesculapia in 12'37 Sagittarius
conjunct Apollo in 13'10 Sagittarius
square Vibhuti in 11'16 Virgo
square Haumea in 11'17 Virgo
square Ascendant in 13'26 Virgo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibhuti

<<Sacred Ash

Vibhuti is the sacred ash used in religious worship in Hinduism. The
vibhuti ash is generally the residue of cow dung that is burned in a
sacred fire (Homa). The main ingredient of Vibuthi is cow dung ash
but several other substances prescribed in scriptures are also used.
Vibuthi is placed on the forehead as it is considered sacred and
holy. Some devotees add a small amount to the tongue to pay respect
to the deity.

The ash has several symbolic meanings.

* Placed on the forehead of devotees, it serves as a sectarian
mark (tilaka). The practice of smearing holy ash on the forehead also
exists in Zoroastrianism and Catholicism.

* In worship connected with Lord Shiva it is a symbol of purity
and is one of the main sacraments given at pūj� in all Śaivite
temples and shrines.

* The ash thus serves as a reminder to the believer to cast away
selfish and worldly desires that wrap the self in maya, and calls to
mind the story of how Shiva burned Kama (the god of desire) to ashes
when Kama attempted to break Shiva's focus on the Divine Truth.>>

<<Vibhuti can refer to glorious attributes of the divine, and in this
context is translated as 'all pervading', 'superhuman power',
'wealth' and so on.>>

<<# Knowledge of the arrangement of stars, planets, etc.
# Knowledge of the movement of stars, planets, etc.>>

the mythology of Astraea is very interesting
She's the personification of Justice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astraea_(mythology)

I think that the Moon and Imum Coeli would be involved with dreams as they both have to do with the unconscious. Moon rules the 4th, and the Imum Coeli is the beginning of the 4th house. Lunar transits are involved in dreams too. I had dreams of certain people,and my moon aspected our synastry aspects during those dreams.

in regards to the fixed stars mentioned on the thread.

In Right Ascension (equatorial longitude coordinate that astronomers use to locate fixed stars):

Sun conjunct Arcturus - '33

Jupiter conjunct Antares - '19

Raymond