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posted December 23, 2009 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra - I agree to ^ that.. I was going to mention that it is personal and I carelessly left it out - sorry about that, reading it back - it sounded like I was preaching you. I am usually more careful with my words

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posted December 23, 2009 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think that much of anything is more important than love but my interest for love is to apply it to everyone and not just a soul mate, a potential soul mate or a past soul mate . The love that I seek is beyond one person and I wish to experience it in ALL things. I feel that everyone, men included, are interested in being with their twin flame (how could you not) but I do not think that it is wise to let the search for that one person consume you and I do not find these people "idiotic", I just feel that they are unaware of the trap of obsession and how it can actually interfere with you ever finding the right person. I also understand that I came here for my own selfish reasons but my reasons are to find truth in all things and not just the limited story of my love interest. I apologize for any tresspasses that I may have done on anyone but this wasn't my intention as you will come to find.

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posted December 23, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sancheuss -

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everyone, men included, are interested in being with their twin flame (how could you not)

Firstly, not everyone believes in the concept or has heard of the concept. And secondly - Where are these men?

DD – female
Peace Angel – female
DiandraReborn – female
GEMGEMGEM – female
Nightingdale – female
Lara – female
Candeh – female
Amowls - female
Deliverance – female
Shankara – female

Hikoro – I have no clue

IQ – male
Polo – male

I can't be bothered going on.

Amowls – I do understand your reasons (I would like to think that I do, anyhow) but I am quite annoyed about being called up on something that is an observable social-fact and not my interpretation of the world, ie. That esoteric topics are largely embraced by a female audience and that the most socially-acceptable masculine reaction to these topics is one of disinterest.

Sancheuss -

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I do not think that it is wise to let the search for that one person consume you

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just feel that they are unaware of the trap of obsession and how it can actually interfere with you ever finding the right person.

I like all of what you said here.

Your wording in the first post, namely: "vain silly childish pretentious meaningless" seemed more along the lines of "idiotic".. if you catch my drift..

Obsessions are unhealthy ultimately. I think we could all use some relaxing - enjoying the moment and appreciating what we have in our lives.

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posted December 23, 2009 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vapor-lash

I noticed that you added my name to the list of people who are interested in this subject.

Just to clarify, I was just curious to see whether it's possible to identify *NON*-romantic soulmates in a chart.

I have no interest in romantic love, romantic soulmates or twin-souls.

I do agree that there is a huge focus on romantic matters on this forum. No judgement here, just an observation


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posted December 23, 2009 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deliverance sorry.. Peace Angel is also not very interested.

I was mainly referring to a general interest in astrology and anything esoteric.

I could easily pick another thread and find a majority of women again because there simply is a majority of women on the site.

If we would isolate particular topics, like the soul-mate/twin-flame topic.. from others.. I do believe that we would still end up with a majority of interested individuals being female (per topic)..

We do not have enough men on this site in general, for there to be a huge masculine-interest on any particular topic.

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posted December 23, 2009 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem vapor-lash

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posted December 23, 2009 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vapor, Just because someone isn't aware of the concept of a soul twin or twin flame doesn't mean that they aren't on an unconscious journey to discovering them. Ultimately everyone is on a path to finding their soul twin wether they realize it or not, which further emphasizes my point to let the meeting naturally occur as opposed to forcing it to happen or obsessing over it.
This doesn't mean that everyone will find their twin flame in this particular incarnation, it may take many different incarnations before you are joined with your soul twin but you are still moving through time/space getting ever closer.

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posted December 23, 2009 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sancheuss -
Ok so you are saying that the "interest" in finding ones twin-soul is not always conscious and thus, the person is not always aware of it - but the interest is nonetheless present.
That is definitely a good reply to my thoughts above ^ and I can see it as a possibility (although I am still very undecided regarding this topic).

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which further emphasizes my point to let the meeting naturally occur as opposed to forcing it to happen or obsessing over it.

I do agree with this.. However, my point (and the reason I kept mentioning the whole male/female distinction when discussing your initial post) was partially that - inhabiting a masculine body.. it may be easier for you to say this - simply because you are not *as* consistently pressured by society to find a mate before your biological clock dies out. I'm not saying there is no pressure for men.. but women are definitely at the center of the pressure.

For example - shockingly - (although things seem to be changing and moving in a positive direction) - Women are still looked down upon if they are single in their 40s.

Also, what I have noticed.. ie.

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the amount of criticism I have heard from *males* regarding women being too head in the clouds or immature or "silly".. romantically.

- is probably a result of the discrepancy between social expectations from men & women.

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disclaimer: most of what I have said on this thread applies to western society and western culture only.

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posted December 23, 2009 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vapor, bringing up the fact that women are perceived to be more interested in soulmate astrology didn't have anything to do with Sanchenuss's question and all it does is reinforce the belief that men are simply not interested in it. You framed your observation as fact and that's what I was annoyed by. But now I know why you brought it up.

Anyway there are other men: Randall, Glaucus, AG, letram, Belgz's friend, Coffee, Got Gemini, Pire, ScorpionicWeb, and of course I'm leaving out a bunch. And most of them have started synastry topics about women they are dating or women they are interested in.

And to clarify, I am interested in all astrology including synastry, and when there's synastry threads, there's going to be discussions on soulmates. I don't really care either way if I meet my soulmate or not. My current boyfriend and I don't have very strong so-called soulmate connections in our synastry and we are very very happy.

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posted December 23, 2009 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Vapor, bringing up the fact that women are perceived to be more interested in soulmate astrology didn't have anything to do with Sanchenuss's question

*sigh* just to clarify again - this is how it became related to his post (I realize that I was very vague)

1.Sancheuss is male and what he said was directed at posters here. Now it was not directed at Randall, because Randall does not have posts of this genre. It was not directed at Acoustic God because he also does not have posts of this genre etc.. It was (unbeknownst to Sancheuss) primarily directed at female posters. Sure once every blue moon (no pun intended on the one coming up) we will have a post of that kind from a male poster. Generally the people on this site "guilty" of what Sancheuss sees as an obsessive search for one’s soulmate - ARE - female.

2. You may have the perspective that his sex has absolutely no connection with the comment. That may or may not be the case. In my opinion it does have a connection - for the reasons I mentioned above. I think that the men I have HEARD make similar comments to the ones Sancheuss made, in the past, (although I do understand that his criticism was not ill-intended) find it perhaps difficult to understand why certain other people (very very often female people) are that obsessed with "finding a soulmate".. and as I said - I think this is a result of different social expectations.

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all it does is reinforce the belief that men are simply not interested in it. You framed your observation as fact and that's what I was annoyed by.

I am sorry you took it this way. I do not at all believe that men are uninterested in these topics.. I simply believe that because it is socially unacceptable for them to display an interest - they tend to either shun away from the topics or hide their interest.
I am aware that men do exist on the site, but they are in the minority and not by any means a large minority.

Anyway amowls, generally I have similar views to you – I really dislike social-setups.. and I am not for the idea of fitting into some sort of social-mold. I was just describing something that I often find to be the case, something I personally DISLIKE to see.

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posted December 23, 2009 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See, I thought he was female at first that's why I got annoyed at your perceived non-answer. My apologies

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posted December 23, 2009 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Amowls, I didn't realize that. No worries
I think I just completely derailed this thread. Apologies to DD

I have a feeling the R. Mars is making me unusually feisty, reowww!

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posted December 24, 2009 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there is no obsession, then it is necessary to do exactly what MsCandeh has done.

I was able to learn the exact functioning of "Attraction Objects/Placements" by this technique. List the top 25 celebrity girls on whom I have various types/degrees of attraction, and then do a synastry.

Sun or Mars conjunctions/trines either way to Aphrodite, Juno and Isis were the clear winners for attraction

I did not find too many Psyche links, but hey, there was no spiritual connection


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posted December 24, 2009 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

" was able to learn the exact functioning of "Attraction Objects/Placements" by this technique. List the top 25 celebrity girls on whom I have various types/degrees of attraction, and then do a synastry."
That is a cool idea. I might do the same with some celebrity guys, but I best leave out those whose charts I already know by heart. lol

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posted December 24, 2009 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sanchenuss I noticed that a lot of people here, not just in this thread but many, seem to be obsessed with searching or finding out about their love interest. Is it wrong that I find this vain, silly, childish, pretentious and almost meaningless of a search? Isn't there more important things to focus on and isn't it almost pointless to be preoccupied with these things? Once again, I don't want to seem too judgemental and condescending but it was a feeling that came over me when seeing all of this obsession in finding out about love interests, most of them being unobtainable. I want to differentiate between curiousity and obsession.Some are curious and it is just a passing thought and I can understand that but there are others that seem obsessed and I think that this type of mentality can be detrimental. With Love, Sanchenuss.

Okay, look! This is directed primarily to Sanchenuss. I am not female, I am male. I am not now, nor have I ever been, in search of a Soul Mate. The only thing I have ever been in search of was the truth. Before my experience I didn't believe in soul mates and I was completely unaware of the concept of Twin Flames, but now, after what I have seen, I don't believe in anything else.

I have about 3 or 4 post on the subject with me, not in search of, but explaining what the actual events are really like. As I keep emphasizing, this sort of thing cannot be effectively understood without one having had the experience themselves, but I am doing my best to explain it in great detail.

I can tell you that Twin Flames are not about romance, it's about unified service toward the good of humanity. People without the authentic Twin Flame experienced are confused about it and are misinforming people. Falling deeply in love does not mean you have found your soul mate or Twin Flame. It is less about how deeply you fall and more about how deep you already are as a person before you fall.

I have said it before and I'll say it again "Self-centered, self-seeking romances do not appeal to one conditioned for a Twin Flame union." Couples who spend their time thinking only of what they can do for each other and together are not even remotely close to what Twin Flames are about. Twin Flames are about God and Humanity. Twin Flames come together for the good of the human species. To encourage spiritual and psychological evolution. To free the human spirit and release the human potential. No Venus / Mars single minded sexuality could possibly result in creating the type of dynamic that Twin flames are based on. It isn't about what I can do for her or what she can do for me, it's about what her and I, what we, can do for others to make them better... And, it don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing... yeahhhh!

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posted December 24, 2009 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I can tell you that Twin Flames are not about romance, it's about unified service toward the good of humanity. People without the authentic Twin Flame experienced are confused about it and are misinforming people. Falling deeply in love does not mean you have found your soul mate or Twin Flame. It is less about how deeply you fall and more about how deep you already are as a person before you fall.

BS.Twin Flame relationships can be incredibly romantic!!

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posted February 17, 2010 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Twin Flames come together for the good of the human species. To encourage spiritual and psychological evolution. To free the human spirit and release the human potential. No Venus / Mars single minded sexuality could possibly result in creating the type of dynamic that Twin flames are based on. It isn't about what I can do for her or what she can do for me, it's about what her and I, what we, can do for others to make them better.."

Absolutely Polo! You get it! When I am listening to certain music at certain times I will have visions of me and my twin flame but we are rarely alone. We are not about sex because our being in this state transcends an orgasm. We ARE an moving,walking,talking orgasm united together and influencing the world. We are walking the world together laughing, smiling and integrating with the people. In these visions we seem to be "Supra" beings. We will laugh at the humans, while teaching them, while becoming them, while loving them. In most visions me and my twin flame are sitting on top of all religious artifacts or buildings that humans deem important. We both have blonde hair and blue eyes (even in our current incarnation we do too)and we are dressed in robes lost in each other on top of a mosque, while muslims below us are praying. This situation is extremely comical to both of us. I almost find it hard to believe that we could be together in this current density, in fact, we may reconnect after each incarnation to laugh and tell each other how our lives went. Anyways, yeah, Polo hit on a good point.

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posted February 17, 2010 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Polo's still here? Thought he was booted by mods..)

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posted February 17, 2010 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im not sure if he is here or not but I was looking at this old thread and he made a very good point that I missed. Why would they ban him? He had a lot of valuable information that they could use.

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posted February 17, 2010 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(oh this is off topic, sorry, something about content of his posts, not all just some that stood out, maybe he's back? dunno..)

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posted February 17, 2010 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think that anyone should be banned unless they are flooding the forum just to feel like Poseidon. If someone is out of line there is a reason that they are out of line and you can draw them back in...and even if you can't reel them in, you can see where they take the lure.

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posted June 13, 2011 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Quinnie and Belage, thanks for your kind words

Nightingale wrote:
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May I ask if you would regard DW Sun/Moon pairings as indicating soul-mates? Or as irrelevant to such an assessment?
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It is very difficult for Sun-Moon DW pair to NOT be soulmates
The chances are 1/1728. The next thing to do is find out what kind of soulmates the pair is.


What about a sun/moon novile DW? Also, what about a square or sextile between pluto and proserpina, or sun and juno?

I know you must be busy, but please post a little more, IQ.

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