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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Logos - The rational way of the Universe, possible precursor to the collective unconscious. Orbital Period: 307.02 yr.

Positive: clarity of personal priorities, belief in one’s own destiny, sense of personal urgency, commitment to self-nurturing and cause, sense of one’s connection to all that Is, logical, rational, use of natural order and law to describe and define life

Negative: arrogance, solipsism, use of data and numbers to defeat valid arguments, sense of superiority (possibly based in inferiority)

Mundane: thought, reason, data, statistics and their use, rhetoric, belief that humans are superior because of reasoning abilities

Ceremonial: proclamation of affirmation, shamanic rituals of disassembly & reassembly, capitulation ceremonies to find one’s place in A

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posted June 30, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my favorite Asteroids. I feel it shows us how we feel about Christ Consciousness or how we choose to connect to the Highest level of Divinity accessible in Human form from Earth. Some of the most wonderful human beings are born with Sun, moon or Ascendant conjunct Logos.

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posted June 30, 2011 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
One of my favorite Asteroids. I feel it shows us how we feel about Christ Consciousness or how we choose to connect to the Highest level of Divinity accessible in Human form from Earth. Some of the most wonderful human beings are born with Sun, moon or Ascendant conjunct Logos.

How fascinating IQ.Where do you have it?
In synastry, if someone's Logo's hit another person's personal planet would they BRING them Christ Consciousness?

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posted June 30, 2011 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for persephone33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have logos conjunct my mercury and sun. I don't know if I'd classify myself as wonderful but I do try to live by a certain moral code. Consequently, the numbers in my birthdate all add up to 33- the number of Christ which is interesting.

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iQ
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posted July 01, 2011 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are an amazing Soul, Persephone. Not a shadow of doubt in it.

Ami wrote:
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How fascinating IQ.Where do you have it?
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Nothing special, 5 Leo.
Sabian: "A Conservative, Old-Fashioned Lady Is Confronted By A 'Hippie' Girl"
I interpret this to mean situations will arise in life that show completely opposite paths towards the Spirit and Light of God.

A square to Chiron is the only LOGOS aspect.
Probably indicating a wound by being away from Divine Words.

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In synastry, if someone's Logo's hit another person's personal planet would they BRING them Christ Consciousness?
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If and only if they have an opening in their heart to allow the flow of Christ Consciousness. Sadly, in over 90% of humanity, due to Abraham Maslow's "Hierarchy of Needs" Theory, this aspect will rarely be felt as most of humanity is in survival mode.

It would be great if we have the chart of someone with Sun or Asc conjunct LOGOS in a sacred degree like 29 Aqua, 26 Capricorn, 19 Leo, 28 Virgo, 1 Libra etc.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 01, 2011 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the 29 degree was a weakened degree IQ?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 01, 2011 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your comment on 90% of people never reaching Maslow's highest stages makes me feel better.
Your wisdom is a light to me IQ

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 02, 2011 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I thought the 29 degree was a weakened degree IQ?
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Usually, it is weak when Sun or Ascendant are here but 29 Aquarius is an exception as there is rare occult power in this degree, according to the Sabian Symbol.

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posted July 03, 2011 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ your Logos conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint

Logos is at 15 Leo and opposes my Psyche at 14.30 Aqua.

I wonder if that means some sort of soul struggle with achieving connection with Christ Consciousness.

My ex and still friend has it conjunct his Moon (and my nessus). He is like my spiritual guide and very in touch with this part of himself .. he knows way more about this stuff than I do

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posted July 13, 2011 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Logos conjunct Nessus, but also Martina and Russia all exact...all same degree.

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posted July 13, 2011 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MsCandeh wrote:
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Logos is at 15 Leo and opposes my Psyche at 14.30 Aqua.
I wonder if that means some sort of soul struggle with achieving connection with Christ Consciousness.
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Exactly.

Carl wrote:
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Logos conjunct Nessus, but also Martina and Russia all exact...all same degree.
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Possible interp: The connection to the Divine Consciousness helped you fight abuse in a Russian lifeline.


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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
Logos conjunct Nessus, but also Martina and Russia all exact...all same degree.

You have Logos conj Nessus,Carl?
Where is my stake

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posted July 13, 2011 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wondering if someone can help me. I tried to help myself, haha.

Me:
(All within 1 degree or less)

Moon trine logos -
emotionally comfortable with expressing my ideas on spiritual aspects of life?

Saturn square logos -
Restrictions if I try to exert my thoughts in regards to spiritual aspects of life on others?

ceres square logos - not as sure

nessus conjunct logos - regardless of saturn aspect, I feel confident in expressing this aspect of myself, comfortable?

Ixion square logos
Quaoar square logos - not sure about these two

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posted July 14, 2011 05:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orbs should be tight with LOGOS though, as it moves so slowly.
IQ`s Logos is on 5 Leo, mine is on 3 Leo, and I think I am three years older than him. so it is a really slow moving object.

BUT the Moon and ASC are not, so if a quickly moving object aspects it, it might become pretty noteable.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 14, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Ceriwden
Do different Asteroids move at different speeds?
I assume so lol
Do we need to take the speed of movement in to account when looking at people's synastry's who were born close in time?

So, for some asteroids--if they were conjunct in a synastry,it would not mean much,I assume.
For others,it would mean a great deal.

Is this true?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 15, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Logos in Leo 23 degrees house 4

Logos opposite Mars in Aquarius house 10
Logos trine Elatus in Sagittarius house 6?
Logos square Ixion in Scorpio House 6
Logos square Amor in Taurus house 2


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Well, actually LOGOS is not an asteroid.

It is a small Kuiper belt object, a cubewano. CHAOS is as well. It is located "trans-Neptune", which is why these objects are also called TransNeptunians, so they also move very slowly (from the earth`s view).

Most asteroids (though not all) we are using are located in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter (with a comparable speed), and some are even pretty fast like EROS for example.

Well, I think the slow moving objects are of course significant, but the more if paired with quickly moving objects. But for example a LOGOS square Uranus (which some people of the 70`s births may share, as Logos had been in the first degrees of Leo and Uranus of Scorpio) might not be so individual, unless Uranus was chartruler or Moon or ASC were in tight aspect with Logos as well.

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posted September 24, 2011 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Logos conjunct Sun, 1 degree separating.
Quintile moon, 0 degrees applying.

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posted December 09, 2011 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is conjunct Sirius, the Dog Star.

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posted December 09, 2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, I have Logos conjunct Sun (orb 2) and conjunct Mercury (orb 1) in the 7th...Also opposes Psyche in the 1st (orb 3)...

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posted June 27, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faechild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Logos 17 Leo conjunct MC

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posted June 27, 2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Ami Anne, Can or would you add a reference url to the O.P.? -- Is this your own work? )

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posted June 27, 2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anchi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a big (2 degrees) conjunction of Eros/Magnanimity/LOGOS in Leo in the 11th house! lol
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Logos oppo Vesta 1.00
Logos oppo Persephone 0.45

Logos asteroid number 58534

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posted June 27, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vosborne1123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Logos square Chiron... Wounded/ hardship with Christ Conciousness? (felt forced to go to God as a child) Square Quaoar&Ixion... Conjunct Aldebaran... I cant find enough info on the others... but they facinate me....

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posted October 15, 2012 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Logos - The rational way of the Universe, possible precursor to the collective unconscious.

Positive: clarity of personal priorities, belief in one’s own destiny, sense of personal urgency, commitment to self-nurturing and cause, sense of one’s connection to all that Is, logical, rational, use of natural order and law to describe and define life

Negative: arrogance, solipsism, use of data and numbers to defeat valid arguments, sense of superiority (possibly based in inferiority)

Mundane: thought, reason, data, statistics and their use, rhetoric, belief that humans are superior because of reasoning abilities

Ceremonial: proclamation of affirmation, shamanic rituals of disassembly & reassembly, capitulation ceremonies to find one’s place in A


MY APOLOGIES if this is too long. I try not to omit anything that could matter even when I don't know why or how. Virgo Mercury = details are gooood.

Logos at 3 Leo conjunct Ostara, Magion, Randi and Hubbard.
Antiscia conj. SN at 26 Tau.
Draconic ~7 Sag, trine natal ASC.

4 Leo has at least Bishop-Conscience-Mikkeli-Roerich.
The last one is apparently a famous channel (for El Morya?) if nothing else. Mikkeli is a town but comes via the Michael name (archangel connection?).

Pallas 4 Aries, MC 2 Aries.
IC conj. Orpheus-Hannibal-Elias etc.
Persephone 3 Libra.
4 Lib Ristiina (risti = cross in Finnish, a town name plus female "Christina" name allusion in actuality) + Storm-Alona-Sova-Cybele.

3 Sag 30' Flood.
4 Sag Meta-Semper-Eurydike.
4 Gem Mars-Talent-Berenike-Augusta + more I forget now.


2 Can Nessus-Israel + more.
3 Can Nestor.
4 Can Aura-Vibhuti-Goode.
3 Sco Panopaea.
4 Selqet.
4 Pis Stonehenge-Reuter.

In light of the 4 Leo Bishop the 6 Leo ASC conjunct also Abbott sheds a possible alternate interpretation for the comedian's name. Abbot, monk?

Your call if you emphasize the horny word interpretation or the sceptical _magician_ for Randi. ;P Do I want proof that it works, even if willing to go along with mysterious things?

Randi conjunct the "rational way of the universe" is strangely apt though, same as the following more ritualistic ones?

I forget which pagan celebration time Ostara stood for, but the Easter connection also seems to rise. With Magion there is presumably some magical connection for that Logos then? Mother Hubbard was for the fairytales, wasn't she?


Logos 1 trine Pallas + the Meta-Semper-Eurydike the other way seems good to me but if someone wants to tell me WHAT it or the asteroids conjunct LOGOS actually suggest, please do.


IQ, Ami, anyone?

EDIT: I'm also an idiot, as didn't think of the asteroid Grimm at 2 Leo also conj. the Hubbard-Logos stuff. Fairytales. Magic, logic and stories all for that Logos?

When looking up Ostara, I found that Jacob Grimm apparently wrote about her/Eostre in 1835, so I have further ties still.

"Eostre is "associated with the coming of spring and the dawn, and her festival is celebrated at the spring equinox. Because she brings renewal, rebirth from the death of winter, some Heathens associate Eostre with Idunn, keeper of the apples of youth in Scandinavian mythology".

New day, sowing of seeds, ties to Mithra and Cybele myths, time of renewal and rebirth, light and darkness having equal time during the day (with light growing, as it's spring)? Or so says http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/ostarathespringequinox/p/Ostara_History.htm

EDIT #2: I was wandering around other boards here and am quoting IQ to remember it myself later... "A very powerful pineal gland can allow you to see Upper Astral Realms which are the sources of all Magical fairy stories." Pallas was to do with the Pineal gland stuff according to some, wasn't it?

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