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Topic: Asteroid ATLANTIS and the Astrology of Awakening.
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DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted October 20, 2009 02:47 PM
yes i have DDNessus 8 Leo Valentine 10 Leo Mars 10 Leo Karma 13 L3o Fortuna 14 Leo John has sun 5 libra kleopatra 5 libra adonis 5 libra astrowizard 5 libra merc 12 libra IC 14 Libra IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted October 20, 2009 04:47 PM
Hey LL friends!!My ATLANTIS 9' Capricorn "An Albatross Feeding From The Hand Of A Sailor" conjuncts NEPHTHYS 8' capricorn Lucifer 12' capricorn Destinn 4' capricorn trines sun 6' taurus venus/mars midpoint 6' taurus mercury 7' taurus opposes cupid 12' cancer DD, I've had my mind, body and soul in packing boxes for the last 6 days :-S I feel so disorientated it's not funny lol BUT i have moved and i'm extremely happy where i've moved to - a modern day Atlantis!!
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 20, 2009 05:21 PM
Lara, so you are also in the "around 8 degree" Atlantis-group. I think it is astonishing that the Atlantis positions of several of us are aspecting each other. BTW your Atlantis is conjunct my Osiris on 7°50, my Isis on 8°32 and my Spirit on 10°39 and my Guinevere on 10°17 Capricorn. I am glad that you like it where you are now. 
Glaucus, interesting, we have an Atlantis-Jupiter-DW, as my Jupiter is on 11°13 Pisces. Not only that but it seems that both our Jupiter`s are ruler of an axis (my ASC, your DESC and IC) and in both our natal charts they fall into 4th house. "I have a conjunction of Sinbad in 28'37 Leo Amphitrite (Greek Supreme queen of the waters,wife of Poseidon) in 26'27 Leo in 12th" So another strong hint at the water-theme. Isn`t that close to Regulus? At least Sinbad? "also could the sea deity asteroids be like Neptune in regards to mystical,psychic matters? " Yes, I definitely think so. The element water as symbol of the subconscious, the psychic and spiritual sphere.
"Also could there be a possibility that my African ancestry could have Atlantean DNA?" Yes, I think with that link up of Atlantis-DNA-Africa-AFricano-IC/MC this is definitely a possibility.
"Personally, I think it's bunch of B.S. based on racist ideology." I agree. "I was wondering about certain civilization asteroids conjunct fixed stars" Yes, that is an interesting thought. "my Giza in 23'09 Libra (square Drago in 23'52 Cancer) conjunct Spica in 23'26 Libra conjunct Arcturus in 23'50 Libra" I have Babylon on 24°00 Libra. I think that is close enough for a conjunction, or isn`t it?
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted October 20, 2009 05:56 PM
WOW!! Your osiris/isis on my atlantis? Thats so cool!! What does it mean? are you my ideal egyptian/atlantean something or other?  Yes, i'm very happy thank you and deep in the heart of the countryside - clean air, dark nights and eternal silence. BLISS! IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6614 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 05:22 AM
Hi Lara, In your new surroundings, you may get stunning info from the Lemurian Crystal. Its a pity we do not have any celestial body named after Lemuria or Mu.IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted October 21, 2009 05:42 AM
Hi IQ!I haven't forgotten you, i promise... just been so busy with unpacking and settling into a totally new environment  I find your comment amazing seeing as i have just taken my Lemurian wand out of the salt-water i've had it in overnight! lol haha I hope you are right as i'm dying to know what purpose it has in my life. Wishing you and everyone a wonderful day x IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 07:32 AM
Well, I have looked up Santorini and Thera, too, as one theory states that this sunk island was identical with Atlantis. I don´t know if that is true. I know as a child I would seek Atlantis in an Atlas and I always looked at the atlantic ocean. Maybe I thought the names were so similiar? But I do feel some resonance with mediterranian island, too. (If Santorin / Thera is not Atlantis, then maybe some ATlanteans escaped there after the flood? Which would have been bitter irony, as Thera was sunk by a volcanic eruption and the following flood.)Strange, I just remember the very first books I wished for as a child were books about sunk continents and cities (first of all Atlantis) and a book about vulcanos. I have always been fascinated by this. Water and Fire. And I still force my pupils to read Plinius ` report about the eruption of Vesuvius and the destruction of Pompeji and Herculaneum, and every time it still scares me, shocks me and makes me almost cry. And I ahve read that so often by now, you would think I have gotten used to it by now. Santorini is on 12 Capricorn conjunct Spirit (but I think that was true for all people; I think Santorini is always conjunct Spirit or something like this) "A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence" - this Sabian gets a whole new meaning if you see it in connection to vulcanic eruptions, doesn`t it? There is no asteroid for Thera, only Terao.
Pompeja is on 29 Pisces (conjunct the stellium around my Draco ASC and Draco Atlantis!) A Majestic Rock Formation Resembling A Face Is Idealized By A Boy Who Takes It As His Ideal Of Greatness, And As He Grows Up, Begins To Look Like It. Interestingly Transiting Santorini is currently exactly opposing my Moon from 17 Leo A Chemist Conducts An Experiment For His Students
Transit Kaali is conjunct my Amor and opposing Vesuvius. Transit Atlantis opposes my Spirit and will soon also oppose my Santorini (it is still about 3 degree away). It also is inconjunct my natal Atlantis and True Node and ASC and squares my pluto exactly. The Sabian of transiting Atlantis is also interesting: A Large Diamond In The First Stages Of The Cutting Process
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DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted October 21, 2009 07:42 AM
DDone day i saw a documentary saying that atlantis might have been located in a placed called akrotiri. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted October 21, 2009 08:08 AM
hehe DDmy santorin/spirit is 26' pisces lol aspecting your dr atlantis! IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 09:20 AM
Thats quite interesting that you would add Stonehenge to that list as well DD. My Stonehenge is at 7 Pisces, conjunct Aura, opposing my Asc at 8 Virgo. No conincidences there.Whats more is this Santorini Asteroid. At 12 Virgo its exactly Conjunct my Valentine/Angel at 12/11 Virgo. Loosely conjunct my Ascendant. And that as you know opposes Osiris at 12 Pisces. It also trines my Atlantis at 13 Taurus. Sabian for 12 Virgo: A Powerful Statesman Overcomes A State Of Political Hysteria Valentine/Santorini/Osiris....Im gonna have to think on this one. And yours is at 12 degrees too! Wassup with that? Lara your 9 Cap Atlantis is exaclty conjunct my Siva and opposes my Nessus at 10 Cancer. 
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 09:33 AM
Diandra,lol I just googled Akrotiri, and it seems it is the excavation site on Santorin/ Thera. So actually we saw two independent documentaries hinting at the same point. How is that for coincidence? Lara,
that is interesting, especially if you consider that my tropical Santorini / Spirit is conjunct your tropical Atlantis, too. Is any of your egyptian asteroids connected to your Atlantis or Santorin? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 09:41 AM
ORBM,"Thats quite interesting that you would add Stonehenge to that list as well DD." I only did because IQ mentioned PA`s Vesta-Atlantis-conjunction and I have a Vesta-Stonehenge-conjunction. Actually there are many more asteroids gathered there including Chaldaea, Gilgamesh, Knight, Tristan and Boda. Another thing that I remembered was that some claim that some Atlanteans "resurfaced" in Avalon. And that of course led me to think of Stonehenge. Funny thing though Ireland is conjunct Atlantis for me (I know stonehenge is not in ireland, but I still found it interesting), and Wells (near Glastonbury, which is Avalon, or the gate to Avalon) is conjunct Pallas and sextile Atlantis and ASC. " At 12 Virgo its exactly Conjunct my Valentine/Angel at 12/11 Virgo. nd yours is at 12 degrees too! Wassup with that?" I can`t even say I am surprised anymore.
Seems like some of us have reconnected here to... yes for what reason exactly? Is it that we are sensing the huge transformational process that is about to begin? Well, actually it has already begun, but I guess it will increase in intensity much more than it is now. Or is it just me and it is only my personal transformation that I project onto others? Oh and as I mentioned Santorini and Spirit are also conjunct Guinevere, so another pointer towards England. And Spirit is also conjunct Isis and Osiris. It seems to be all so interconnected.
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songwriter Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:03 AM
quote: ATLANTIS 19'45" VirgoATLANTIS opp Venus (orb is 4.4 degrees) ATLANTIS sesquiquadrate Moon iQ or DD, Do you think these two aspects are valid? Also, Should we check our Draco aspects?
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oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:04 AM
IQ: So you know I have to examine these "stats", thats why you wrote them! lol Just teasin but seriously I had too..." 1. KAALI conjunct COMPASSION 29.3 Pisces conj SPHINX in 0 Aries." So we know that we have a interesting connection. But check out my Mercury/Talent/Socrates/Gold/Vesta conjunction being conjunct at 27-0 Pisces/Aries. Interesting connection there, I have certainly learned amazing things about my own Prana and connection to Ancient Wisdom through your Divine Fem wisdom. So its VERY fitting. "2. INNANEN in the sacred degree of 29-30 Aquarius trine Super Galactic Centre in 0.2 Libra." This is interesting too, I have Isolde at at that degree. lol I bet that is why I carry lifetimes of matyrs involving a broken heart in my Matrix. Curiously my Kassandra opposes that at 1 Virgo. You know what I noticed the other day?....I didnt realize the Super Galactic Centre was at 0 Libra.... for some reason it just clicked that I have a Veritas/Aigypto exact conjunction at 0 Libra, and Plato is close by at 1 Libra. I guess that explains my obsession with finding out the truth about Egypt as well. But Plato....now thats some big shoes. "3. ISIS conjunct OSIRIS conj HERA conj WISDOM conj ALEXANDRA conj VESUVIUS in 27.5 Leo, 5th House, same as my ATLANTIS Stellium."
Ok wow, seriously you know the potential of that Energy, and all I can say is wow... And this trines my Sun at 26 Aries. As well as this trines Galactic Center...Your Isis and Osiris Conjunct trine the Galactic Center? God I want your brain! lol What tremendous reasoning abilities, and what a grand use for your Masc/Feminine energy it is almost the way you would envision Consciousness being born... Thats sick! But I expected nothing less. "4. PALLAS conj SEKHMET conj FORTUNA conj ABUNDANTIA conj PSYCHE are 5 goddesses and are conj ATLANTIS in 8 Virgo 5th House." Fifth House Stellums now that is interesting. But this is interesting connection to the Sphinx, and quite sure shows your flair for what you do, as well as the way you present your knowledge. It is very much like a shiny precious gift to the receivers of it. And you for sure are more appreciated than you know... quit blushing....You know that Leo energy likes to hear it! lol "5. KLEOPATRA conj NEFERTITI exactly in 16.4 Leo 5th, close to Saturn conj VESTA in 14 Leo. Asteroid LILITH exact opp VESTA and JUNO makes T-Square exact with Vesta and Lilith. Saturn also exactly conjuncts ASSISSI and RUDRA. "
You have such amazing access to your Divine Feminie Energy? What was it like growing up for you? How did they not program you heavier than you were? Saturn I guess offers you protection as well. Does Saturn Aspect your Aura, Asc, MC or NN? Just curious "6. NEPHTHYS conj CIRCE conj Sun conj TYCHE in a 3 degree orb betwee 1 to 4 Cancer, 3rd House." Curiously my Draconic Moon/Nep/Merlin are at 1/3/5 degrees Cancer. This shows a fundamental understanding of your occult knowledge, like the cornerstone is in place we need only build. "7. UBASTI in 4.4 Leo conj LOGOS 5 Leo and exact square Chiron 4 Taurus and exact sextile CERES in 5 Libra." Now this one is intense. I have Kaali/Logos Conjunction at 6/7 Leo opposing Psyche at 7. I have Hyperborea at 3 Leo. And Tut Trines this at 5 Aries. First things first Ubasti in Leo exalts that Asteroid I think, then having in conjunct Logos. How did that square present in life? Did you have some wounded healer issues around the infinite nature of the Divine Feminine and the role she played in your life as a child? "All top goddesses are hence aspected to each other or to important planets/asteroids." For sure....incredibly so...  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:17 AM
ORBM,Plato is indeed interesting, especially in regards to Atlantis, no?  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:18 AM
Songwriter,personally I would think the Venus-Atlantis aspect is too wide. If the sesisquare is exact, it might be in effect. But did you check your Draco`s for aspects to Atlantis? IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:20 AM
DD,Ok my Guin at 3 Virgo is conjunct Spirit/Mystis/Dark Moon 4 Degrees Virgo. Craziness. Also consider that Ireland at 12 Libra is conjunct my DNA 9 Libra, its a loose 3 degree orb, but it opposes Isis/Lucifer at 11/10 Aries. Also, Wells is at 21 Sag. It falls in my Kleopatra/Moon/King/Neptune/Arthur/Merlin/Reiki Stellum from 17-24 Sag. All opposing Karma and Destin at 20/21 Gem. I find it interesting that Arthur and Merlin are conjunct... There seems to be some thing there, Atlantis, England and Egypt. Clearly right.... IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:37 AM
Its very interesting DD...I am with you there is a clear reason for all of us to be connecting. Growing and learning as it were. No you are not alone in your transformation we are all going through them. There is not a person here that cannot say that there Consciousness is not expanding. We are all learning new things, shedding old skins. Learning to view the valley from the mountain takes the raising of our vibrations throungh inner alchemy the process of transformation. Makes me think of the old adage ‘a problem can’t be solved from the same level of awareness that caused it’.Anywho, the talents that we are mastering now will help us, because we have a busy next 5 years...fun but busy.. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6614 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:39 AM
DD has done well in showing the Transit ATLANTIS Sabian. Atlantis was not just one land mass but several islands, a Global Empire. So all the Ancient sunken islands are related. Many exist in the Pacific Ocean, a lot of their discoveries are suppressed. In front of my eyes in my state of Tamil Nadu we saw this kind information suppression. Dinsoaur Eggs were discovered and the public started taking interest, suddenly news appears of "ransacking/vandalizing by miscreants" and then new "official" teams visit there and start issuing statements that those were not dinosaur eggs but rocks. A week after all of us saw the pictures. Locals have conveniently forgotten about it now....Anyway, let us not insult the honesty and intelligence of hundreds upon hundreds of Atlantis past lifeline recallers. I started this topic so that readers who are hesitant to disclose their dreams or recalls about Atlantis may open up about their dreams, feeling and memories of Atlantis. 9/10 recallers are shy, hesitant, reluctant or intimidated to post on this topic. As the biggest Dog of the Ancient Atlantis yard, I say POST BRAVELY, there is nothing to fear in this forum. ------------------ Soul Mate Love Calculator http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
songwriter Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:43 AM
DD, Yes, sesi-square aspect is exact! The orb is 0'32". But I don't know about sesi-squares. Is it effective? I've got also Sun-Mars sesi-sq "But did you check your Draco`s for aspects to Atlantis?" No, i didn't check. Draco planets to natal Atlantis? Draco Atlantis to natal planets? Or both? .. Sorry, If I sound stupid. I just want to be sure.  IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6614 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 10:52 AM
ORBM, I owe you a truckload of Beer bro  I would copy paste all thats in my head to everyone if I could. Its a beautiful feeling to spot any pattern anywhere be it in miles of code or encrypted stuff or DNA molecules or my favourite astrology/numerology.This is where I messed up in Atlantis, as told by other recallers. I decrypted the info in the Crystal Skull and placed the knowledge in the wrong hands out of Ego problems. That info must have helped tyrants make dangerous weapons that one day sunk Atlantis and Lemuria. So this lifeline I have to try the reverse. Find easy mind shields for the populace against all manner of illuminati designs. Violet and Tetrahedrals is just a start, there has to be something better. I am gambling here, my 6th sense tells me some anonymous reader knows. She will post it here someday before 2012. The time in my clock now is 8:20, all who have read Star Signs will know I am striving for the exact truth/facts about Atlantis. ------------------ Soul Mate Love Calculator http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 11:00 AM
IQ,since we are speaking of colours right now, do you know what the colour green-gold means, and sometimes it is exchanged for a white-gold? IP: Logged |
songwriter Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 11:07 AM
DD, here are my draco aspects.Draco Atlantis 13' Cancer. I think it conjuncts Sirius?! Draco Atlantis sq natal Sun. (1.5 degrees) Draco Atlantis trine natal Uranus (1) Draco Atlantis opp natal Jupiter (exact) Draco Atlantis sextile natal KARMA (1.2 degrees) Draco Atlantis trine natal Saturn (3) Draco Mars exactly conjuncts natal ATLANTIS Draco Chiron opp natal ATLANTIS (1) The Sabian of Draco Chiron: 21-22 deg Pisces "A Prophet Carrying Tablets Of The New Law Is Walking Down The Slopes Of Mount Sinai" Edit: DD, I have Stonehenge trine Atlantis. Exact. IP: Logged |
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posted October 21, 2009 12:10 PM
i am inclined to think atlantis was in the atlantic...for obvious reasons, not least that that is what plato said. a lot of researchers are happy to disregard his specific location and keep looking in the mediterranean but i think that is down to our "scientific" community disrespecting the intelligence and wide knowledge of the ancients. how big it was i have no idea...lara where are you at now? sounds nice! is it in the west country? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2009 01:43 PM
So, let us have a look at what Plato has written:"For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent. Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia. This vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars. But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island." http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/Atlantis/timaeus_page2.html "Let me begin by observing first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place between those who dwelt outside the Pillars of Heracles and all who dwelt within them; this war I am going to describe. Of the combatants on the one side, the city of Athens was reported to have been the leader and to have fought out the war; the combatants on the other side were commanded by the kings of Atlantis, which, as was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from hence to any part of the ocean. The progress of the history will unfold the various nations of barbarians and families of Hellenes which then existed, as they successively appear on the scene; but I must describe first of all Athenians of that day, and their enemies who fought with them, and then the respective powers and governments of the two kingdoms. Let us give the precedence to Athens. In the days of old the gods had the whole earth distributed among them by allotment. There was no quarrelling; for you cannot rightly suppose that the gods did not know what was proper for each of them to have, or, knowing this, that they would seek to procure for themselves by contention that which more properly belonged to others. They all of them by just apportionment obtained what they wanted, and peopled their own districts; and when they had peopled them they tended us, their nurselings and possessions, as shepherds tend their flocks, excepting only that they did not use blows or bodily force, as shepherds do, but governed us like pilots from the stern of the vessel, which is an easy way of guiding animals, holding our souls by the rudder of persuasion according to their own pleasure;-thus did they guide all mortal creatures. Now different gods had their allotments in different places which they set in order. Hephaestus and Athene, who were brother and sister, and sprang from the same father, having a common nature, and being united also in the love of philosophy and art, both obtained as their common portion this land, which was naturally adapted for wisdom and virtue; and there they implanted brave children of the soil, and put into their minds the order of government; their names are preserved, but their actions have disappeared by reason of the destruction of those who received the tradition, and the lapse of ages. For when there were any survivors, as I have already said, they were men who dwelt in the mountains; and they were ignorant of the art of writing, and had heard only the names of the chiefs of the land, but very little about their actions. The names they were willing enough to give to their children; but the virtues and the laws of their predecessors, they knew only by obscure traditions; and as they themselves and their children lacked for many generations the necessaries of life, they directed their attention to the supply of their wants, and of them they conversed, to the neglect of events that had happened in times long past; for mythology and the enquiry into antiquity are first introduced into cities when they begin to have leisure, and when they see that the necessaries of life have already been provided, but not before. And this is reason why the names of the ancients have been preserved to us and not their actions. This I infer because Solon said that the priests in their narrative of that war mentioned most of the names which are recorded prior to the time of Theseus, such as Cecrops, and Erechtheus, and Erichthonius, and Erysichthon, and the names of the women in like manner. Moreover, since military pursuits were then common to men and women, the men of those days in accordance with the custom of the time set up a figure and image of the goddess in full armour, to be a testimony that all animals which associate together, male as well as female, may, if they please, practise in common the virtue which belongs to them without distinction of sex. <<Previous Page | Next Page>> have before remarked in speaking of the allotments of the gods, that they distributed the whole earth into portions differing in extent, and made for themselves temples and instituted sacrifices. And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis, begat children by a mortal woman, and settled them in a part of the island, which I will describe. Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile. Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side. In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth born primeval men of that country, whose name was Evenor, and he had a wife named Leucippe, and they had an only daughter who was called Cleito. The maiden had already reached womanhood, when her father and mother died; Poseidon fell in love with her and had intercourse with her, and breaking the ground, inclosed the hill in which she dwelt all round, making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each having its circumference equidistant every way from the centre, so that no man could get to the island, for ships and voyages were not as yet. He himself, being a god, found no difficulty in making special arrangements for the centre island, bringing up two springs of water from beneath the earth, one of warm water and the other of cold, and making every variety of food to spring up abundantly from the soil. He also begat and brought up five pairs of twin male children; and dividing the island of Atlantis into ten portions, he gave to the first-born of the eldest pair his mother's dwelling and the surrounding allotment, which was the largest and best, and made him king over the rest; the others he made princes, and gave them rule over many men, and a large territory. And he named them all; the eldest, who was the first king, he named Atlas, and after him the whole island and the ocean were called Atlantic. To his twin brother, who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, he gave the name which in the Hellenic language is Eumelus, in the language of the country which is named after him, Gadeirus. Of the second pair of twins he called one Ampheres, and the other Evaemon. To the elder of the third pair of twins he gave the name Mneseus, and Autochthon to the one who followed him. Of the fourth pair of twins he called the elder Elasippus, and the younger Mestor. And of the fifth pair he gave to the elder the name of Azaes, and to the younger that of Diaprepes. All these and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of divers islands in the open sea; and also, as has been already said, they held sway in our direction over the country within the Pillars as far as Egypt and Tyrrhenia. <<Previous Page | Next http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/Atlantis/critias_page7.html So, according to Platos words, the pillars of Heracles are the "mark". Those who dwelt within were certainly the Athens and other mediterranian nations. " The name "Pillars of Heracles (Hèracleiai stèlai)" was given by the ancients to a location which is usually identified with the Rock of Gibraltar and the facing Apes' Hill near Tangier, on either side of the strait of Gibraltar leading from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic Ocean. Plato mention them in the Timæus and Critias when locating the Island of Atlantis (Timæus, 24e ; Critias, 108e ; 114b), and also in the myth of the earth at the end of the Phædo (109b)." http://plato-dialogues.org/tools/char/heracles.htm So I think Katatonic is right here; at least if the pillars of Heracles are really identical with the rock of Gibraltar.
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