posted June 10, 2012 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by BlackSeraph:
Consider my case study-experience a cautionary tale.

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You certainly seem to have had a hell of a lot of bad luck... The pattern of being betrayed by friends is unreal! I'd be curious to know whether you've pinpointed something in your natal chart that might predispose one to such mistreatment.

I do think it would be erroneous to deny yourself a relationship based on a bad experience or two (okay, three). Are your venus/mars/pluto conjunct? That'd point to some serious passion which could make the right woman very very happy. We're not all teasing heart-breakers...

posted September 19, 2012 03:21 PM            

I have a quick question. But first how are you?

My question is I have an empty 8th House in Capricorn, however, I have Circe, Merlin, Frigga, Poseidon, Telepathy in Capricorn in 8th I also have Hermes, Walpurga and Reiki, Valentine and Kleopatra in Aquarius in 8th. There are more asteroids in this house, but what do these mean? Absolutely no personal planets reside in this house.

Any input you give is greatly appreciated.

I use therefore, I am. --Capricorn legacy

posted September 19, 2012 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I just read up on the myth of Sedna, and it's just a HORRIBLE story. Repeated betrayals by father and husband. Yuck!!!

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My taurus Sedna@3.39 opposed my scorpio uranus@4.44, square my leo saturn@2.50
she makes a fixed t-square
she also touches my gemini mars@29.33, my cancer nessus@2.24 in 9th

posted September 19, 2012 03:56 PM            

His Dejanira opposite my Moon (1)
His Lust square my Mercury (CR) EXACT
His Lust square my Venus (1)
His Lucifer conjunct my Mars (1)
His Lust opposite my Neptune EXACT
His Dejanira square my Pluto EXACT
His Swindle conjunct my SN (1) What? I'll have to see that.
His Nessus conjunct my Amor EXACT
His Nessus conjunct my Angel EXACT
His Nessus conjunct my Aphrodite (1)
His Nessus conjunct my Lust EXACT
His Nessus conjunct my Tantalus (1) ?

My Karma square his Lucifer EXACT
My Lie square his Venus (1)
My Swindle conunct his ASC (1) o_O
My Lucifer on his SN (2)
My Nessus square his Lust (3 - wide, but though it's a dw, so i counted)

posted September 19, 2012 04:09 PM            

OMG!

That time it was:

HIS Lie square my Venus (now it's mine square his)
HIS Lust conjunct my Nessus EXACT (now it's mine conjunct his EXACT)
My Saturn on his IC EXACT (the exact same as now)
His Nessus opposite my Amor EXACT
His Nessus opposite my Lust AGAIN A DW OF THAT!
His Dejanira conjunct my Amor EXACT
His Dejanira conjunct my ASC EXACT
His Nessus conjunct my DSC (1)
His Lie opposite my Dejanira EXACT
His Swindle square my Mars
His Swindle opposite my Angel
My Swindle opposite his Moon

posted October 20, 2014 05:23 AM            

His Asteroid lie aspecting my planets:

His Lie conjunct my MC/Amor(exact),
opposite my IC(exact),
square my venus(exact),
trine my neptune (orb 1)

His Asteroid swindle aspecting my planet:

His swindle sextile my moon(exact)

My Asteroid lie only makes one aspect to his planets which is:

My lie widely conjuncts his swindle(orb 4)

My Asteroid Swindle only makes one aspect to his planets which is:

My Swindle opposite his saturn (exact)

posted October 20, 2014 04:48 PM            

"Amor" is an empathic type asteroid (Demetra George & Dennis Bloch, Asteroid Goddesses bk, p.193). Represents 'A state of Loving'... Loving-kindness and Compassion. 'A loving-caring bond and deep affection that may exist' between individuals.

You could be 'Swindling' yourself out of a chance to nurture your inner-self when you don't take a chance on Love (platonic, or spiritual).

"Lie" (looking from a different perspective) could also mean the One you lie down with in your bed of intimacies... whether of body, mind, emotion-feeling, Soul, or spiritual ideals. Be clear (in yourself) 'why' you lay with this person. What is this about? Just sex? or Will he (she) be a fated-one on your journey... One who will Be there with you and for you, to know you in every possible way and form that there is to be Known.

The bridge to your IC could indicate that this relationship could have a profound effect on your own self psychological-depths and deepest formation for your personal feeling of 'home' (what 'home' feels like to you) at your foundations. (You are still 'young' if born 1990, and your psychological bank of experiences seeks deposits to be made into it.)

(Traditionally, you're not considered fully initiated into Society until you've experienced your first Saturn-Return ... I know, I know. I personally felt 'very ancient' at age 24, and I recall myself saying out-loud that I was ready to retire and tell my stories to grandchildren. .... Now I feel as though I have maybe lived at least 150 of those kinds of years by now ~ and still, I'm growing!)

Aurora_Girl, You have an excellent tool on your side when you understand the astrology... Try not to be so worried...? You'll be able to make course-corrections and adjustments with more flexibility than others perhaps. Yes, Love can be Blind. And Love can cover a multitude of sins... Now, this could be a bad or good thing, depending on the dynamics and your abilities to resolve problems in 'working out' your relationships.

Love out of balance can lead to deep wounds. And, 'woundings' are an inescapable part of Life... We're here to live it ALL out, fully. Living can hurt sometimes-- but you eventually can ALWAYS moves forward at some point if you don't give up!...

(In cases of deliberate abuse, or undisciplined use of masculine power {in female OR male genders}, bluntly?~~ leave when you can... You can be friendly, and sometimes ultra-careful, but do extricate yourself from this if it is a situation you encounter. Your life is worthy! Choose to change your role. Learn this early in life. Emotional abuse COUNTS as well. Keep the Truth close to your inner-child self, the one who dreams the wedding and chooses to take care of herself by remaining where she is safe.)

Sometimes the meeting and bonding between two souls can lead to mutual sublime healing and compassions that dilute a 'sea of wounds'... {{Gaby! That was a WONDERFUL story about SEDNA, and learning to apply self-compassion, 'allowing' your self to be Loved. WOW!}}

Trining Neptune..., In its Higher form is a Higher spiritual soul-level perspective, or in its lower form can be lack of clarity on a ground level. (Hopefully not deceit, where people are evolved.) Can symbolize also a feeling of sense of defeat, or the helpless powerless feeling that result from victimizations: whether deliberate deceptions by others (whether via the-other, or self's subconscious collusion that would happen between idealistic dreaming of both... unless consciously kept acknowledged). That's why it's so important to learn what is true to 'both' of you.

Okay, my Virgo Moon has WAY over-analyzed! ENOUGH-already! .... Please, have FUN!! ~~ Consider that It COULD result in something sooo very good for each other....

With lots of Love to you....

posted August 21, 2016 12:35 PM            

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Lie 26955

Swindle 8690 (Thanks, IQ)

Lucifer 1930

Lust 4386

Nessus 7066

Dejanira 157

Tantalus 2102[/B]

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Wow thanks for sharing these!
This thread blew my mind!

I was once with a gemini guy who has Lie conjunct sun (exact), and lucifer conjunct mercury (exact). After we broke up I always remembered him as the devil himself. But I always thought this was because of his Scorpio ascendant that makes me think so. now I know!

Another guy I dated has Lie exactly conjunct his moon/saturn. Surprisingly I couldn't believe a word he would say! I always thought he mostly lies to himself, and through this deceives others.

I have natal Lucifer exactly conjunct my ascendant!
I found this on Lucifer though, so fingers crossed I won't lose my light! :

"In Latin Lucifer means also Bearer of Light, and see, that becomes the secret is that wherever we have our natal Lucifer is where we can be most severely influenced by evil, but the paradox is that within the symbol itself, is the Bearer of Light, which means it's where you can accelerate "your spiritual growth," to directly know God...through the very symbol itself - that's the paradox of Lucifer and the Bearer of Light." http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000217.html

posted April 24, 2017 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Do you watch for lilith as a bad one to??

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posted October 14, 2017 06:26 PM            

Natal
Lucifer conj. Juno (scorpio)

Swindle/Lie conj. MC (scorpio) 9th house side

Sun/Lilith conj. MC (sag) 10th house side

I know the Sun diminishes Lilith's shadow, does the Sun also diminish the affects of Lie/Swindle on the MC?

posted October 23, 2017 01:37 PM            

This is not mine, happens to be my Twin Flame. I fear this means that marriage/partner is just out of reach. Specifically, her and I will never be together.