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Linda Jones
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posted May 12, 2012 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi iQ,

Would you mind shedding some light on the following?

I’ve read that Rudra is a synonym for the Hindu God Shiva and the two names are used interchangeably. The word "rudraksha” or "eye of Rudra" is both the berry of the Rudraksha tree, and a name for the rosary string of prayer beads made from those seeds. I also understand that Hindus use specifically the rudraksha rosary in prayers to God Shiva.

From:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudra

"The theonym Shiva originates as an epithet of Rudra, the adjective shiva "kind" being used euphemistically of the god who in the Rigveda also carries the epithet ghora "terrible". Usage of the epithet came to exceed the original theonym by the post-Vedic period (in the Sanskrit Epics), and the name Rudra has been taken as a synonym for the god Shiva and the two names are used interchangeably."

Does this mean that asteroids Rudra and Shiva would have the same or interchangeable meaning in astrology/synastry, or that maybe Shiva is used in a kinder context?

I found something very curious in my synastry related to this and wonder what it means?

My Rudra conjuncts his SN (exact) and his Rudra conjuncts my SN (1 deg).
Composite Rudra conjuncts comp. SN (exact) in comp. 1H.
(Our natal NNs are in ea. others' 7H, and comp. NN is in comp. 7H).

[Side note: My Mary and Reiki are also conjunct his SN].

Also, my Rudra conjuncts my own Moon, and squares his Mars/Venus conjunction (0-2 deg).
His Rudra exactly trines his own Sun, and sextiles my Venus (1 deg) and semisquare my Mars (1 deg).

So there seems to be a DW between Rudra and our nodal axis and Sun/Moon/Mars/Venus in synastry.

In addition, my Shiva conjuncts his Desc. (1 deg) and his Shiva/Neptune exact conjunction is conjunct my Desc. (2 deg. Neptune is also his chart ruler). Composite Shiva conjuncts composite Desc. (3 deg).

Also my Shiva quincunxes his Parvati (exact) and tridec his Kali (19 min)

(Tridec-13th harmonic Twin Flame aspect of 27 deg 42 min. Max. allowable orb is 1 deg. Reference, Heiros Gamos thread page 12).

Also, composite Shiva semisquares composite Kali (1 deg) and tridec composite Parvati (<1 deg).

Composite Kali is in comp.H5 along with comp.H5 Pluto, which is ruler of comp. H8. Comp. Pluto and comp. Kali are 8 degrees apart in H5.

Additional: Comp. 5H Kali trines by 1-2 degrees an exact 1H comp. conjunction of Cupido/Valentine/Ceres.

What do you make of the above pattern? My apologies if my question contains too much info. I’m still learning how to sort out the relevant from that which is not.

Thank you so much.

Hope you’re managing to stay cool in the hot, hot Indian summer.

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posted May 13, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YIKES! I just realized-my Rudra also conjuncts his Desc. (2 deg) and his Rudra trines my IC exact! And I just read on some old threads that Rudra is connected with death and destruction!

So the Rudra theme is prominent in my synastry and composite-tied to the nodal axis, the Asc/Desc axis and the IC/MC axis, along with Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars.

iQ does this mean we're going to destroy/kill each other or is there another meaning attached to Rudra other than death and destruction?

Are the Rudra aspects negated by the more loving aspects of Shiva/Kali/Parvati? Example both my Shiva and Rudra are conjunct his Desc. from either side of the axis. So Shiva nullifies the effect of Rudra on his Desc?

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posted May 15, 2012 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**gif of two hands doing a Namaste**

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posted May 16, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear LJ,
The Rudras were a highly evolved type of Realized Entities. They did not have blood lust. In Myths, death and destruction almost always means irreversible transformation.

The Rudras play their part as being agents of Metamorphosis. A Strong Rudra Theme in synastry will thus play out as irreversible Personal Change if you both actualize and sustain the relationship.

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posted May 17, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh iQ, you cannot imagine how relieved I feel!

So Rudra kinda sounds like Pluto at its best. The change and transformation at a deep, almost molecular level, has been happening pretty much from the very beginning.

Shortly after we met he said one day right out of the blue-"I'm going to take a journey, walk on a road I've never been before." Upon my asking which road that was, he said, "the one that will make me become more fully who I am." I said, "And then what do you think will happen?" He replied, "You will be the prize at the end of the road."

Inwardly I buckled hearing him say that. As it turns out, I've actually been walking with him on that road. In the first two years alone, we went though stuff that most married people would go through in 10-12 years of marriage.

He's the one I think is my twin (soul wise). There are things we knew about each other right from the beginning, which have, over time become a reality not only between us, but also, as I'm now finding out, have an astrological basis.

I'd assumed that the change and transformation was due to our several Pluto contacts in synastry and composite. With your Rudra explanation however, I can now see how the picture is completed and makes perfect sense.

Thank you so, so much.

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posted May 17, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to add that the change in both of us has been the gradual destruction of individual ego. I seem to be driven to understand and experience ego less love and I think my chart reflects it (as much as I understand astrology so far lol).

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posted October 21, 2012 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about this combination?

His Rudra conjunct My Venus (exact)
My Venus conjunct his Rudra (exact)

Is this same as Venus conjunct Pluto?

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posted October 21, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindaGreg:
What about this combination?

His Rudra conjunct My Venus (exact)
My Venus conjunct his Rudra (exact)

Is this same as Venus conjunct Pluto?


Hi LindaGreg, nice to meet you

You have an imp. DW with Venus and Rudra in your synastry. In some ways I feel it is a bit different from Pluto/Venus (altho with the same level of intensity). By that I mean that whereas Pluto can and does bring about change, often this change can be destructive because Pluto tends to restructure after destroying (unless the two people involved are quite evolved). And often this can be very painful to the people in the relationship.

Rudra, on the other hand, brings about irreversible change (as iQ has said above), but with a greater surety of "permanence" for the relationship, because such a change is of a higher nature. The degree of competitiveness and power plays that can occur in Plutonian relationships is (I feel) not present with Rudra. So imo, Rudra change is with much less ego and therefore greater ease to make ourselves vulnerable within the relationship. At least this is what I've experienced in my relationship.

Hope this helps

BTW, here's a thread by VenusdeIndia with some more info on Rudra being Pluto's fire--
. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001129.html

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