posted August 12, 2012 05:00 PM            

So far, the most important soulmate pairing used the most are:
- eros and psyche
- pluto and persephone/proserpine
- osiris and isis
- zeus and hera / jupiter and juno
- adonis and innanen

Less used but that I also saw mentioned and found very interesting are
- adam(s) and eva
- solomin and sheba

Each of those pairing have a myth of their own and I was interested in what would be the themes for each of them. If two people in synastry have a double whammie of those pairing, are they likely to find the same themes recurring in their relationship? Would a single aspect do this too?

posted August 12, 2012 05:13 PM            

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posted August 12, 2012 05:16 PM            

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posted August 12, 2012 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I see
So if two persons have an eros-psyche aspect in their synastry (with a tight orb) themes of eroticism and digging deep into oone's soul would be very present ?
Would they also be likely to have some major themes of the eros-psyche myth play out in their relationship: such as how eros and psyche were separated at one point and they both had to work for their love to be reckoned?

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I would agree with the first part of your post. I would not take it to the literal part about the separation.

I would look at the essence of eros( erotic) and the essence of psyche( soul love)

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posted August 12, 2012 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto overpowered Prosperina and brought her to the underworld. He took away her innocence, but he loved her too. It is a dark kind of love. I think. I would love to hear IQ's take on this. Prosperina had trauma as she became a woman. This can be seen prominently in people who had a hard coming of age ime

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Yes, I read a summary of the myth and "dark love" was what I thought of it too. There is a very important passion and transformation theme within this myth I think.

posted August 12, 2012 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I would agree with the first part of your post. I would not take it to the literal part about the separation.

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Thank you
I had wondered i somehow the major events in the myth were likely to repeat in synastry if two persons had an aspect between this soulmate pairing. I guess you're right, it really is taking it a bit literally but I was still a bit confused.

posted August 12, 2012 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I prefer Eros-Psyche and Persephone/Prosperina with Pluto personally because I have Eros, Psyche, Persephone/Prosperina prominent natal aspects. The significance of those pairings depends on their influence on your individual charts. Some Soul mate asteroids are not important in some people's chart therefore there irrelevant. I don't view the Persephone myth as merely a myth of subjection. Persephone chose to eat from the seeds of the pomegranate in the underworld; it was a act of rebellion. She was a goddess she didn't have to technically eat anything. Secondly it is a coming of age myth in a sense separating from your home progressing from the naivety of adolescence to adulthood where she was placed on equal standing as Pluto; Goddess of the Underworld.

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I had never thought about actually looking for which asteroid is more prominent in the natal chart but it makes a lot of sense this way.
I find the pluto-proserpine myth very complex and as you said she loved him and it was her choice to eat the pomegranate.

posted August 12, 2012 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I had never thought about actually looking for which asteroid is more prominent in the natal chart but it makes a lot of sense this way.
I find the pluto-proserpine myth very complex and as you said she loved him and it was her choice to eat the pomegranate.

Zeus - Hera is rather interesting to say the least, especially because of zeus'countless affairs and hera's jealousy.
Adonis and Innanen is the most intriguing to me, I haven't been able to find exactly of which civilization they pertained (Sumerian or Babylonian) and I couldn't find their myth, the only part I've been able to find so far was when Innanen goes to the underworld and she goes through 7 gates and then when she sits on a throne she becomes a corpse but I'm not even sure of it.

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posted August 12, 2012 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Yes, I read a summary of the myth and "dark love" was what I thought of it too. There is a very important passion and transformation theme within this myth I think.

The themes within each myth can be very different. I find them so fascinating.

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I know. The asteroids are so fascinating!

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posted August 13, 2012 06:36 PM            

I'd think it'd automatically create conflict instead, but how would that be indicated? Mars signs? Aspects? Composite Mars and aspects?

posted August 13, 2012 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I see
So if two persons have an eros-psyche aspect in their synastry (with a tight orb) themes of eroticism and digging deep into oone's soul would be very present ?
Would they also be likely to have some major themes of the eros-psyche myth play out in their relationship: such as how eros and psyche were separated at one point and they both had to work for their love to be reckoned?

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For instance, in Pluto/Persephone relationships, it is helpful to look for the asteroid Demeter, as it might give a clue of what can interfere with the relationship. I know someone whose mother is or was an obstacle in their relationship, and the asteroid Demeter features prominently in their synastry and in their composite.

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posted August 13, 2012 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
So if two persons have an eros-psyche aspect in their synastry (with a tight orb) themes of eroticism and digging deep into oone's soul would be very present ?
Would they also be likely to have some major themes of the eros-psyche myth play out in their relationship: such as how eros and psyche were separated at one point and they both had to work for their love to be reckoned?

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Sometimes right down to the Eros actually obscuring / withholding their identity from the Psyche person. Complete with irrational fear of them 'bolting' should there be prodding to uncover it.

Been there.

posted August 13, 2012 10:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Interesting Belage. How do you see the interfering party, chart wise?

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In the example I have given, the man had a natal opposition of moon and mercury which created a particular dynamic in his ability to relate to women, while the woman had a natal opposition of Hades and Demeter which happen to fall right on his moon and mercury opposition. (Her Hades conjuncts his moon and her Demeter conjunct his mercury)

The man's Persephone was opposite the woman's Persephone, and both made lovely angles (sextiles and trines) to the Moon/Mercury and Hades/Demeter oppositions.

In the man's chart, his Demeter was square his sun.

Outside of asteroids, the woman's mother happened to have her Saturn conjunct the man's Venus, and she was effectively putting the brakes on the relationship.

posted August 13, 2012 11:06 PM            

In the composite, Demeter was conjunct Pluto and trine Hades which I thought was interesting. I saw it as meaning that they had to work with the mother and not against her.

posted August 26, 2012 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
What's up with, I guess, 'denying Eros' ? If a synastry has a large amount of Erotic energy in it, for example, but it isn't expressed?

I'd think it'd automatically create conflict instead, but how would that be indicated? Mars signs? Aspects? Composite Mars and aspects?

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Yes. Ther`s a performer, with whom I have a weird case of Eros-synastry.

His Venus conjuncts my Venus
his Eros conjuncts my Venus exact
his Mars conjuncts my Pluto exact
his Mars squares my Venus
his ERos squares my Pluto
his Venus squares my Pluto

The man is definitely gay, and I never even spoke to him, but there have been occasions when he was glaring at me like he was REALLY angry with me. But I didn`t do anything except sitting there. lol

HOwever the energy was pretty insane, and actually it is not a good idea to sit front row, cause the nervous energy that is generated in me feels REALLY uncomfortable at times.

Maybe it is important in this instance as well, that his Uranus is exactly squaring my Sun-Mercury-conjunction and his Saturn- BML (and a bit more widely: Chiron) squares it from the other side of his Saturn-Uranus-opposition,his Pluto is also widely square my Sun-MErcury by 5 degrees. and his Sun conjuncts my Sun-Mercury; his Moon trines my Sun-Mercury, which sounds nice, right? Untill you realize that MY Uranus opposes HIS Moon, just like HIS Uraus squares MY Sun.

He is my Nemesis, emotionally. And fittingly his asteroid Nemesis conjuncts my Sun and my asteroid Nemesis opposes his Moon.

It actually feels like a pile of "underground explosives".

Oh and of the minor ones come to mind:
His Pluto squares my PROSERPINA exact.
My Pluto trines his PROSERPINA by one degree.

posted September 08, 2012 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Marina at Dark Star Astrology has an article on the possible differences between the Proserpina and Persephone versions, through analysis of each of their discovery charts. I found it interesting.

http://darkstarastrology.com/goddess-persephone-myths-hades-and-ceres-prosperina/

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posted November 02, 2012 01:18 AM            

In analyzing their synastry, I’ve noticed the Jupiter/Zeus with Juno/Hera is quite a recurring theme with them. …I had included a bit of description about their interaction, which may give a clue about what that particular “soul mate” pairing feels like.

Here is the page I posted their synastry and composite charts on.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215947-2.html

Here is a repost, without the charts:
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Friends of mine, Sally and Andy, celebrated their 50th anniversary by going to Disney World last fall. Married since she was 19, he 21.

I've seen them every weekend for last two years, at a flea market stand that they sell stuff at. Greet each other with a kiss, chat with each other with interest, laugh together, respect each other. I don't think there was any infidelity, judging by how they interact. Sally and I do talk about relationships. She is the first to say that it takes "work."

Andy jokes when he is spending time away from their booth: "I'd better get back or I won't be getting any supper tonight." …He seems to like to joke about how she’s going to kick his @ss for something or another.

Also, he told a story of when they were a younger couple, attending a social event with their children. Andy was tired of being there, had drank a lot and went to sit in the car for most of the evening. ...When they got home, he passed out on the floor in the hallway. Sally was so ticked off that she walked right across his back, in her high-heeled shoes. ...I think Andy likes to think he is being kept in line by her!

But I also think that Sally needs someone she can respect, and Andy fills that need. He has his own strong opinions and is a very capable, hard-working person. Sally is smart, though she also knows how to laugh well. You can hear her hearty laugh from far away. Neither of them "suffers fools gladly," but they both laugh a lot.

(For those interested in asteroids, regarding Sally's view that relationships are "work" I just noticed that in synastry, they have CHIRON conj JUNO (<1); HERA conj NNode (<2); ...and JUNO tri ZEUS (<1) -- That is their closest so-called "soul-mate" asteroid pair , if we include JUNO/HERA - JUPITER/ZEUS in such a list.

...Juno/Hera – and of course Saturn - makes me think of the WORK part of relationships. And it's her JUNO exactly trine his ZEUS, which is exactly opposite his MARS. And her JUNO is exactly opposite her SATURN! ..Like I said--he enjoys being kept in line…and I think she enjoys keeping him in line!

She often purses her lips, tilts her head down, and gives him a disapproving look, while you can see she is half smiling at the same time. lol

Hmm... Also, her HERA is at Antiscion degree of his ZEUS (just over 1 degree). And ZEUS opp HERA (<1) in composite! Oy – her JUNO opp his JUPITER in Heliocentric (<1), and her ZEUS opp his JUNO (<2) !)

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As you can see—quite a recurring theme, with all four of those asteroids.

They do have PLUTO Qx PROSERPINA (<1)
And PROSERPINA sq PLUTO (<2) (… Though, their Plutos are conjunct, so they have those natally, as well.)

Eva Qx Adams (<1)
Isis OPP Osiris (<4)
Adonis SEXT Innanen (<2)

...I'll add these:

YESHUHUA/JESSIE with MARY/MARIA:

MARY conj JESSIE (<3)
MARY sq YESHUHUA (<3)
JESSIE sq MARIA (<2)

Siva TRI Kaali (<3)
Parvati TRI Siva (<2) (Heliocentric)

posted November 02, 2012 08:20 AM            

It`s exactly as I view a positive Jupiter/Juno-interaction.
Actually if you read the myth carefully, it almost seems like a "game" to these two at times. Oh yes Juno is REALLY angry and wanting her revenge, his philandering ways really tick her off.
And she demands equality and there are powergames, alright.

But I remember that incident, when Juno once left the Olymp (she did so regularly to get away from it all) and stating she was going to leave Jupiter.
And how Jupiter went to all possible lengths (including trickery and making her jealous) to make her come back.
It is said that their make up sex was quite stormy and passionate. LOL

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Anyway my parents have

his Jupiter sextile her Juno exact
his Juno opposite her Jupiter (1)

composite:
Jupiter in Pisces trine Juno in Scorpio exact

My Dad is an Aquarius, my Mum is a Scorpio

There has never been any doubt that they were an "unit" (just like Juno and Jupiter always automatically were considered the royal couple of the Olymp).
They are an unstoppable team when they can agree on what to fight for (and luckily they have found some things in common, that are worth fighting for for both of them, though they constantly debate about HOW their goals should be pursued).

They love each other very much, but they are also quite different in some respects, and especially my Dad enjoys pushing all my Mum`s red buttons. No, not the REAL red ones, only those that will make her temper flare up and make her start bicker and voice her disapproval in unmistakenable tone.
And his usual reaction is: But you know me. You know I am just joking/ playing around.

Well, my Mom is not a "joker/Player", and he knows that very well.
But at the end of it, both are laughing wholeheartedly.

I swear sometimes us children are just sitting beside them and enjoy the show. We even considered selling tickets for the dinner-theatre at home.

Well, my Dad is all for it, and my mom "disapproves". lol

There has never been any infidelity though. it would have been the end of them instantly. Loyalty, integrity and honesty is an absolute MUST for them.

posted June 02, 2013 01:34 PM            

{{{{But She was not the marring type so ive always wondered why they pair her with Adonis..?}}}}

Inanna's Akkadian counterpart is Ishtar. In different traditions Inanna is the daughter of Anu or she is the daughter of the moon god Sin. In various traditions, her siblings include the sun god Utu, the rain god Ishkur, and Ereshkigal, Queen of the Underworld. Her personal assistant is Ninshubur. She is never considered to have a permanent spouse, although Dumuzi is her lover. Yet, she is responsible for sending Dumuzi to the Underworld in "Inanna's Descent to the Underworld." Inanna also is regarded in astral traditions as the morning and evening star.[37] The cult of Inanna may also have influenced the deities Ainina and Danina of the Caucasian Iberians mentioned by the medieval Georgian Chronicles

Her counter parts..

Ishtar
Astarte
Aphrodite
Venus

But still she was known as....