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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 12:11 PM
  
I want to talk to people who have either Child conjunct Dejanira or Moon conjunct Dejanira.
I would like to ask you some questions. If you have these and would like to explore how they work in your chart, please respond.
Blessings as these are hard. I have Child conj Deja  ------------------
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GirlinSeattle
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posted September 13, 2012 02:24 PM
I was in a long-term relationship with a guy whose Dejanira conjuncts his Moon by an orb of 3. It actually kind of hurts me to see this in his chart; however, maybe I could get some insight about how this works in his natal chart through PM, or something? I can offer some insight about the questions that you have, maybe. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 02:35 PM
Would you like to talk about it on here. No one knows who you are ------------------
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GirlinSeattle
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posted September 13, 2012 02:44 PM
Sure, that's no problem, either. This is his chart:
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 03:00 PM
Thank you.
Did he have sexual abuse from his mother?if not, another woman?------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 03:10 PM
He has an exact Merc quincunx deja.
I thinkDid he have a real sense of being powerless in his life? ------------------
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GirlinSeattle
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posted September 13, 2012 03:24 PM
As far as sexual abuse from his mother, it's very possible. This is something so personal, I don't think he would be able to share it with anyone. He can repress painful experiences very well. He didn't specifically tell me that the abuse he received as a kid was sexual, but his mother often threatened to commit suicide in front of him. She has tried to commit suicide in front of him, at least two times in his childhood. He was in a situation where he was used for sex with a girl that had selfish intentions, if that counts for anything. EDIT:I should add that he had a misplaced sense of affection for this girl. He had "fallen in love" with her, despite that they had no commonalities and she was in another long-term relationship. And yes, he was made to feel very powerless in his life. Almost as if he couldn't do anything or control certain aspects in his life. He had no say in his household, even though he was the oldest male (of 4 siblings). He also frequently had hallucinations closely related to a mild case of schizophrenia. IP: Logged |
GirlinSeattle
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posted September 13, 2012 03:34 PM
Actually, I have his mom's exact time of birth as well as his younger brother. I decided to see if there's any connection between the Nessus/Dejanira relationship.His mom has Nessus conjunct Jupiter (2 degree orb) and conjunct her ASC (5 degree orb). All in Taurus in the 1st house. No significant Dejanira aspects. His younger brother has Dejanira conjunct his Saturn in Scorpio in the 11th house. No significant Nessus aspects. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by GirlinSeattle:
As far as sexual abuse from his mother, it's very possible. This is something so personal, I don't think he would be able to share it with anyone. He can repress painful experiences very well. He didn't specifically tell me that the abuse he received as a kid was sexual, but his mother often threatened to commit suicide in front of him. She has tried to commit suicide in front of him, at least two times in his childhood. He was in a situation where he was used for sex with a girl that had selfish intentions, if that counts for anything. [b]EDIT:I should add that he had a misplaced sense of affection for this girl. He had "fallen in love" with her, despite that they had no commonalities and she was in another long-term relationship. And yes, he was made to feel very powerless in his life. Almost as if he couldn't do anything or control certain aspects in his life. He had no say in his household, even though he was the oldest male (of 4 siblings). He also frequently had hallucinations closely related to a mild case of schizophrenia.[/B]
WOW I just got the chills. The chart shows everything
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 03:47 PM
I am mainly looking at Moon conjunct Dejanira and Child conjunct Dejanira.------------------
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GirlinSeattle
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posted September 13, 2012 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW I just got the chills. The chart shows everything
Wow, I am stunned to hear this. It pains me to think about what he must have gone through in his past. I noticed his Dejanira is Retrograde. Is that of any significance? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 03:56 PM
Well, every woman I have seen with Dejanira conj the Moon has been sexually abused. Most( of my small sample) are BPD.Child conj Deja does not seem as intense of an abuse as Deja conj the Moon. However, the field of asteroids with respect to these kinds of issues is very, very new. ------------------
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Jovian
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posted September 13, 2012 04:41 PM
BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder ?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Jovian:
BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder ?
Yes
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Aeline
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posted September 13, 2012 05:45 PM
I don't, but i have another freaky one - Dejanira conjunct NN in 5th, what could that mean? A possible abuse in the future? :O IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 13, 2012 06:13 PM
I have
Virgo Child@19/Moon@18/Zues@16/Dejanira@15/Humea@15/Juno@12 in Virgo 12th
...opposed
Pisces Vesta@20/Pallas@17/Pholus@9 in Pisces 6th
...square
Gemini Psyche@15/Messenger@15/Erda@15/Crantor@14/Sauer@19 all in Rx in Gemini 9th
....square
Saggy Neptune@11/Photographica@13/Great Attractor@13/Sappho@15/Astraea@16/Hebe@19 in Saggy 3rd My mother suffered BPD...never diagnosed but shes been in and out of hospitals, she was always able to play the victim and it be somebody else fault for her breakdown. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Aeline:
I don't, but i have another freaky one - Dejanira conjunct NN in 5th, what could that mean? A possible abuse in the future? :O
I would say the person would have to master all of what it means to be a victim and would probably use it to help other people who were victimized such as a crisis counselor etc
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have
Virgo Child@19/Moon@18/Zues@16/Dejanira@15/Humea@15/Juno@12 in Virgo 12th
...opposed
Pisces Vesta@20/Pallas@17/Pholus@9 in Pisces 6th
...square
Gemini Psyche@15/Messenger@15/Erda@15/Crantor@14/Sauer@19 all in Rx in Gemini 9th
....square
Saggy Neptune@11/Photographica@13/Great Attractor@13/Sappho@15/Astraea@16/Hebe@19 in Saggy 3rd My mother suffered BPD...never diagnosed but shes been in and out of hospitals, she was always able to play the victim and it be somebody else fault for her breakdown.
WOW you have emotional abuse, for sure! Did you have sexual abuse, as well?
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Gabby
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posted September 13, 2012 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW you have emotional abuse, for sure! Did you have sexual abuse, as well?
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Gabby
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posted September 13, 2012 06:36 PM
My mom married a man when i was 3 that felt it was his responsibility to keep me clean before God by "purifying me"...after i was married and pregnant the doctor asked if id had an abortion...but i hadn't, i was virgin until i was married.
He used utensils and rubbing alcohol. It wasnt sexual, it was more ritual...he did the same to my brothers, with a scrub brush until they were raw n bleeding then used the alcohol.
I find it interesting that Zues is in there to!!
I was molested a few times also, but not by him and really that just kind of falls by the side as no big deal by comparison! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 06:44 PM
OH MY GOODNESS Gabby
I am so, so, so sorry
Every Deja conj the Moon is a horror story.
My deepest heart goes out to you. I was molested by my mother, if you have not read that, so I understand betrayal. I have Child conj Deja which does not have as "bad" an abuse, if you can say that, we you really can't.Blessings, Sweet One  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 06:46 PM
Zeus?
I don't know much about that asteroid? Do you?I have been ruminating how HOW the chart is so accurate and want to write about it, but I don't have the words, yet ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2012 06:47 PM
I was feeling so sorry for myself, today, with my mother. I talked to her, today, and she is in denial and a therapist.It can make one feel hopeless ------------------
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Gabby
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posted September 13, 2012 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OH MY GOODNESS Gabby
I am so, so, so sorry
Every Deja conj the Moon is a horror story.
My deepest heart goes out to you. I was molested by my mother, if you have not read that, so I understand betrayal. I have Child conj Deja which does not have as "bad" an abuse, if you can say that, we you really can't.Blessings, Sweet One
I find this very helpful...my mom is still a big mess, so as ive become more healthy and started to understand what this did to me and reverse the pain and find my strength... just stay away from her!
My brothers, well one is only 38 and just lost his 4th wife...he always marries women just like my mom, crazy! The last one committed suicide. My other brother cannot be near any of us...he wont be reminded of any of it. I get that!
My step dad was very sadistic...we looked like the perfect little family, i guess because we were all terrified to be anything but that?
He was murdered a few years after my mom left him.... 
Its taken me a lot to recover my soul and the damage...my mom raised us in a cult, and i was totally theres, hook line and sinker until i was 24...major event woke me up!
I'm glad pluto is on my AC, its nevr let me be content with the person i was, always forcing me to dig deeper and altho its painful...im finally coming to understand myself and love me for who i am, not who ppl expect me to be!
I have amazing, happy, healthy children that love me...my daughter is 15, almost 16 and son 13, almost 14 when ppl say they can't get along with their teenagers, i dont comprehend because they are the greatest...i think God is giving me back what i lost, my family and love, through my children. I think i understand what its like to be alive but not to be a person, and i put everything into making sure i never leave anyone feeling unvalued for their individuality. I think thats why my kids are so great to me! Everyday gets brighter! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 13, 2012 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was feeling so sorry for myself, today, with my mother. I talked to her, today, and she is in denial and a therapist.It can make one feel hopeless
I'm sorry!! Its so hard feeling like your mom is not a mom at all, sometimes an enemy, sometimes a child, sometimes a jealous back stabbing girl...and all you want is a mom to hold you and say its all going to be ok...but it just doesnt happen! Im so sorry! IP: Logged |
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