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KarmicMoon
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posted August 11, 2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This explains the pranas that Garuda controls and how it relates to yoga.

"At its heart, hatha yoga is more than just flexibility or strength in postures; it is the management of prana, the vital life force that animates all levels of being. Prana enables the body to move and the mind to think. It is the intelligence that coordinates our senses, and the perceptible manifestation of our higher selves. By becoming more attentive to prana—and enhancing and directing its flow through the practices of hatha yoga—we can invigorate the body and mind, develop an expanded inner awareness, and open the door to higher states of consciousness.

The yoga tradition describes five movements or functions of prana known as the vayus (literally “winds”)—prana vayu (not to be confused with the undivided master prana), apana vayu, samana vayu, udana vayu, and vyana vayu. These five vayus govern different areas of the body and different physical and subtle activities. When they’re functioning harmoniously, they assure the health and vitality of the body and mind, allowing us to enjoy our unique talents and live life with meaning and purpose." (www.yogainternational.com)

(This is from an explaination of the symbol for the second chakra)
Vishnu is seated on the Garuda, the king of birds. Garuda is the concentrated vayu power developed from the highest form of kumbhaka (breath-suspension) which is under full control of Vishnu. Garuda represents the five vayus within us: Apana, Prana, Samana, Udana and Vyana. From the Garuda process has been developed the practice of Uddiyana control, the control of the lower abdomen. By this mean the Great bird of Prana, the life force is constantly forced to fly upward, ascending along Sushumna nadi the central channel. By concentration, control over the five prana forces is increased through the release of Kundalini Power, and consequently pranayama develops. Then Lord Vishnu begins to be awakened. (www.tantra-kundalini.com)

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posted August 11, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Keela:
Where did you get the above quote? Oh, Wiki. I don't recall that from earlier. Rudra is a more forceful or stormy side of Shiva in most circumstances, paired with Kaali, Tara or Parvati, perhaps Sati(e) as seen so far.

Garuda is Vishnu's mount in what I've read and you also note, and against Nagas, an enemy thereof. However, since my Garuda is 2 degrees opposite my Rudra, I'm all for people checking if Garuda and Rudra are in contact as a pairing as well. Also for Garuda and Kaali being each other's antiscia in my chart. It's possible that Garuda-Rudra work as a pair in some people's charts, I wouldn't know without people checking it out more so. Garuda ties to Vishnu normally othewise instead of Shiva so if there is contact between the asteroids it's akin a suggestion there may be something more there.

As a non-Hindu/non-Indian have no idea what Abhichara or the rest is off-hand, but if you're into Kundalini topics, I think IQ mentioned that pranayama-yoga in relation to Hanuman higher up somewhere.


Thanks Keela, you are far ahead of me on this stuff though I love learning about it. It is very difficult as a non-indian as you say but I have so many asteroid links I must have had a few lives in India. Abhichara means black magic apparently and you can use astrology to find out if it is being done to you but it is way over my head!

I'm having trouble understanding the connections between Shiva and Rama and need to do more research there. For example, Hanuman was an avatar of Shiva but was devoted to Rama?

I'm not sure if Garuda and Rudra would hold up as a soulmate pair. I think we would need IQ for that since there isn't much information about their relationship. I found it interesting though that the name was Rudra, especially for a woman (but again, I am coming from a non-Indian background).

I had my kundalini triggered by someone though and at our first meeting he had Garuda being conjunct by transiting Rudra and Alma (0) and trined by Visbuti (2) inconjunct Karma (1). His Garuda is also widely conjunct Ramachandran (4) natally.

Natally, I have Garuda in Taurus, with a bunch of other asteroids...
Kaali 2 59
Devine 3 05
Parvati 4 26
Garuda 6 22
Alma 8 25
Tara 9 45
Parana 11 19

It makes some other aspects including a square to soma (1) and Siva (0), opposite Aditi (1). On our first meeting natal Garuda was cj transiting Mahakala (-2), sextile Parvati (0), square Mahalingam (1) and Ganesa (0) and oppose Ramachandran (2).

This is why I am trying to understand the links to kundalini. I can see I need to do more research on Hanuman now too, lol!

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posted August 12, 2014 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Garuda is just Vishnu's mount - a male. Rudra is not linked to Garuda in mythology. Different stories.

The Wiki article on Garuda is ridiculously detailed. The only bit that relates to Kundalini is the bit about breath control, on Vayus (breaths). Pranayama - the practice of breath control - is instrumental in raising the kundaliani. During pranayama one visualises the currents of energy flowing up and down the channels (nadis) in the spine. A clear flow is essential for a kundalini rise.

As you mentioned Keela, iQ wrote about Hanuman being related to pranayama in response to your queries:

"HANUMANA is one of the Muli-Dimensional Aspects of Siva. Kundalini Yoga practitioners who control Kundalini by identifying the Energy with an Astral Deity are very successful when choosing Hanumana, mainly because Hanuman is least afflicted by Saturn.

Infact, in the entire book of "Ramayana", Hanuman is affected karmically only once, when he has to suffer the burns of fire in his tail while setting fire to Ravana's Palace [Ravana abducts Sita, wife of Rama. The whole Ramayana is a Kundalini Myth. Sita is Kundalini Shakti of Rama. Ravana is like a Nemesis Soul Mate of Rama who neglectes his own Kundalini. Hanuman also rules the Air Element, and indciates how Pranyama Yoga with focus on a Deity burns off Karmic Debts and allows free flow of Kundalini. This is why he could communicate with Sita when others could not. Sita wants to be rescued only by Rama, meaning, the Soul is satisfied only by full Kundalini Rise to the Crown, not with just Pranayama.]

Anyone with strong Vedic Myth Aspects would have had past lifelines as a student of Vedas like a Max Mueller, or would have had several lifelines in Ancient India.

Hanumana conjunct Ascendant would help a lot in Pranayama Yoga."

@ Karmic Moon, Vishnu and Siva are aspects of the supreme God - Vishnu is the preserver, whilst Siva is the destroyer. They helped each other out. Which could be viewed as a metaphor of seeing them as aspects of the same divine energy. Unlike Greek mythology, the gods of the holy trinity - Brahma (the creator), Vishnu and Siva, did not fall out with each other and were generally free of human foibles. Indian mythology abounds with other lesser gods who displayed more human qualities.

There is another layer of meaning if one considers chakras - each chakra has a presiding deity where these Gods also feature. As far as asteroids are concerned, I think that both Garuda and Hanuman relate more specifically to pranayama or success with yoga and raising the kundalini. Whilst Vishnu is a benefic asteroid in general. It may mean good fortune or godliness. Hanuman is also viewed as a protector and as a fulfiller of wishes. So, Hanuman is a very popular deity in India. If you read accounts on the net, all the deities are written about in the most lyrical terms - they are what one wishes them to be, or so it seems.

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posted August 12, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks AK,

I found a great website last night that explained the trinity and how they are all aspects of one God. It said people interested in more traditional spirituality should follow Vishnu while those more interested in transformation should follow Shiva. As the destroyer, Shiva breaks down to make room for the new. Similar to Kaali.

I realize Rudra is another form of Shiva but was just curious that one of Garuda's consorts had the same name and if it meant anything?

You posted a link for me an the Mahalingam thread that explained very well which diety rules which chakra. Thank you. One of the quotes above is from that site.

Do you think if people have these asteroids well placed natally they are good candidates for kundalini yoga? I feel like it chose me, lol. All these asteroids were very active when I started to change. When I look at the transits it doesn't seem coincidental.

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posted August 12, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Do you think if people have these asteroids well placed natally they are good candidates for kundalini yoga? I feel like it chose me, lol. All these asteroids were very active when I started to change. When I look at the transits it doesn't seem coincidental.

Yes. You already have an active Kundalini, which reflects the kundalini theme in your asteroid placements. Have you checked the KAALI thread in the Ref Library? This has details of KAALI placements which one would need to be careful of with kundalini yoga.

Please continue to make a note of transits and how they affect you. In fact, keep a diary. This research will make the nuances between the various Vedic asteroids evident. I would love to find out what you discover. Keep us posted !

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