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Topic: Asteroid Synastry Conjunctions - Could We Be Soulmates?
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methree
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posted October 20, 2012 05:54 AM
  
Hi everyone. I'm new posting here but have been reading the forums for a while. What first got me interested in digging deeper into astrology was some things that started happening in connection with a certain individual. I was looking for an explanation for these and for why I am so intensely drawn to this person, and can't let go of the feeling that we are 'meant to be'. It opened my eyes to the very real possibility of karma, past lives and soulmates, and I am now trying to find out if perhaps we could possibly be soulmates and if we have been together in a past life. I am going through IQ's soulmate calculator and so far have only checked the conjunctions. I don't have his time of birth so there's a lot in our synastry that I can't check, but so far with the conjunctions mentioned in the soulmate calculator, we have (my planets are listed first):Sun conjunct juno (0 deg)
Mars conjunct fortuna (1 deg)
Saturn conjunct amor (1 deg)
North node conjunct karma (1 deg)
Ascendant conjunct venus (0 deg) and union (0 deg)
Juno conjunct eros (1 deg)
Karma conjunct venus (0 deg)
Fortuna conjunct eros (1 deg)
Vesta conjunct pluto (0 deg) I would love to hear your opinions about this. I know I haven't listed everything here (yet), but going by this, what are the chances that we're soulmates and that we've been together in a past life? I'm hoping for some kind of confirmation from someone else (whether yes or no) because I feel like I'm too close to the situation to be objective about it. Thanks for taking the time to read this and for any replies. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2012 08:32 AM
IMO for being soulmates conjunctions to the angles are absolutely necessary. Especially of luminaries, anglerulers or nodal axis.That ASC-Venus-conjunction could serve, though it may be more indicative of the great attraction.
I`d check for really strong and tight aspects (if exact, I`d even allow trine, opposition, square for this  ) to the angles, especially of luminaries, anglerulers and nodal axis.
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Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
IMO for being soulmates conjunctions to the angles are absolutely necessary. Especially of luminaries, anglerulers or nodal axis.That ASC-Venus-conjunction could serve, though it may be more indicative of the great attraction.
I`d check for really strong and tight aspects (if exact, I`d even allow trine, opposition, square for this ) to the angles, especially of luminaries, anglerulers and nodal axis.
But also asteroids could do the work. It's necessary to check all the asteroids of importance here. Angel/Union/Agapenor/Psyche... whatever else. I agree that such things as Aphrodite/Eros/etc. would only do a physical attraction thing here. IP: Logged |
Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 08:56 AM
Apart from that, i can say that Juno conjunct Eros is great, of course, but more in a physical way. IP: Logged |
Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 09:16 AM
I could also suggest you to take a look at spiritual theme asteroids:To ASC, for example, in my opinion, it would show the connection as follow:
3811 Karma - there's a meaning for this relationship, rooted in the past, but it could just show the natural understanding of that, that it feels karmic, but not necessarily shows anything particular, like other asteroids would indicate
12472 Samadhi (Vedic) - well, i have that. I have not come to conclusions yet, but i think it would be important, i'm in a process of learning now.. hope i can tell more, when i'm done.
14827 Hypnos (Greek) - something mysterious between you two, a mystical and psychic link which as i believe, also does not begin in this lifetime, but way longer time ago
55555 DNA - something very similar, i know who you are, we are alike. You cannot do anything to make me question that.
1488 Aura - i can totally feel you, you delve under my skin and i don't know why.. i ask that question everyday but still can't understand, but in your presence i'm complete.
5239 Reiki - your presence alone is able to heal my wounds, you helped me in the past, you continue doing it now..
37452 Spirit - you raise me up. i can do pretty much anything when you're around. I believe in myself more, and that's why i like you. For what you make me feel when we're together.
6583 Destinn - it's like we're meant to be together. We part, we go our own ways, but somehow destiny always puts us on the one road again.
3561 Devine - there is a bond between us - something of a higher purpose or something. It's not describable in earthly themes, anyway.
1252 Celestia
11911 Angel - you're my light. I will always help you, because i can't do otherwise. I'll always be there for you. It's not an obligation, it's my own intention and wish.
5881 Akashi - i remember you. You did something back then that i cannot forget. do you feel that too?
390 Alma - your soul is united with mine, no matter what we do here on earth, it's just a lesson, our connection is deep and sacred from above
5261 Eureka (Greek) i finally found you! You're the answer to my prayers!
8990 Compassion
8992 Solidarity
7899 Joya
19 Fortuna (Roman)
258 Tyche (Greek)
2815 Soma (Vedic)
25290 Vibhuti (Vedic)
2791 Paradise
1282 Utopia
9500 Camelot (Anglo Saxon)
2598 Merlin (Anglo Saxon)
9499 Excalibur (Anglo Saxon)
1198 Atlantis
279 Thule
1309 Hyperborea (Greek/Norse)
5023 Agapenor - i love you just for who you are, you don't need to change, it doesn't matter. We share that bond that will last forever even if we part..
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Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 09:30 AM
So funny!I just wrote those descriptions above. From my mind, it just came, automatically. And only now i checked Devine in my synastry with my soulmate. And bingo, his Devine IS conjunct my ASC exact. I didn't know that, but what i wrote about it, holds completely true. It's what we both feel now. Something higher and not for here and now. And funny enough, my Devine is also EXACTLY conjunct his DSC. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2012 09:56 AM
No, asteroids can`t do the work on their own in this instance.If we are looking for SOULmates, the involvement of the angles and or Moon are a necessary condition. However, after that is established the asteroids and other aspects have an enormous importance. But without the inclusion of MOon and angles not even an Eros-Psyche-conjunction, and Isis-Osiris-conjunction plus a Pluto-Proserpina conjunction means you are soulmates. The reason for this is that only angles and Moon are "birthtime-sensitive" and therefore specific enough.
Apart from that they are descriptive of your entry into this incarnation and also to a deep layer of your soul (esp in the case of the Moon).
If you have seen IQ`s soulmate calculator you will have noticed that he as well, has that as a "necessary condition" - the aspects to the ASC.
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Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, asteroids can`t do the work on their own in this instance.If we are looking for SOULmates, the involvement of the angles and or Moon are a necessary condition. However, after that is established the asteroids and other aspects have an enormous importance. But without the inclusion of MOon and angles not even an Eros-Psyche-conjunction, and Isis-Osiris-conjunction plus a Pluto-Proserpina conjunction means you are soulmates. The reason for this is that only angles and Moon are "birthtime-sensitive" and therefore specific enough.
Apart from that they are descriptive of your entry into this incarnation and also to a deep layer of your soul (esp in the case of the Moon).
If you have seen IQ`s soulmate calculator you will have noticed that he as well, has that as a "necessary condition" - the aspects to the ASC.
I'm sorry, that's what i meant. Not that asteroid - asteroid connection will do the work, no. Asteroids TO angles, in an exact conjunction. That's what i meant, Ceri. IP: Logged |
Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 10:08 AM
IQ in his calculator mentions Union and Angel that would be necessary to conjunct ASC, in order to be soulmates. However, i think there are more asteroids that can indicate that as well. So it's necessary to see what the spiritual asteroids are doing with angles, not all of the above, of course, but still. They may be relevant too. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2012 10:11 AM
Yeah, well, but I am definitely not believing that ANY asteroid on the ASC will do the trick, it should be of the soulmate pairings or at least Amor or Valentine or Karma.I am also sorry, as I know you are fond of Agapenor, but it is simply too far away in spelling AND descripting someone else for my taste. So I certainly am not going to use this asteroid as signifying unconditional love. But yeah, different opinions here, simply. 
Also I think soulmates are a special case, even if we have many, but with all these asteroids out there, such a conjunction will pop up just coincidentally, so for me it is really important to narrow the set to the really relevant ones. But then the question remains: Which ARE relevant and how do we know?
As of now I`ve got to rely on what makes the most logical sense to me, which might differ from others. But that is all I can give as an answer. Hope I did not come across too curt or unfriendly.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2012 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Aeline:
IQ in his calculator mentions Union and Angel that would be necessary to conjunct ASC, in order to be soulmates. However, i think there are more asteroids that can indicate that as well. So it's necessary to see what the spiritual asteroids are doing with angles, not all of the above, of course, but still. They may be relevant too.
No, he mentions just that these may be among the set of asteroids that can indicate this. However, this soulmate calculator may already be a bit outdated with all the current research he has been doing int he meantime.
Or not. Only he can know. But as I said, I like exchanging views, but in the last instance the information has to resonate with my own mind. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2012 10:14 AM
BTW I like your short interpretations.  IP: Logged |
Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 10:22 AM
No, not at all.
I just think that we do have many soulmates, that are not of romantic nature by default, so in my opinion those asteroids that are used should not be limited only to love asteroids like Amor/Valentine, etc. A soulmate can be even an elderly lady you see in a bus once in your lifetime, she gives you an advice you need the most and then disappears. (Actually happened to me, a few weeks ago, she just sat next to me and started talking about how comes that people nowadays don't See things as they are /she was talking about things i do see - energetic fields, people's past, future sometimes/ , and i have no idea why she did that, but i felt it so deeply.. i wanted to just hug her, and when she left, i cried. Because i was starting to doubt all that, not that it's impossible, but why is it given to me, why nobody around believes it, thinks it's a BS, etc. And then she just came and said those beautiful things, out of nowhere. I AM convinced, it was a guidance from above, as of soul level, and not Amor, nor Valentine, shouldn't be relevant here, right? )
Because i have people in my life that are very important to me, i know i have known them and they feel it too, they are my friends with whom i don't have any romantic feelings - so if i didn't search further, i wouldn't have found those themes that describe my relationship with them so well. IP: Logged |
Aeline
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posted October 20, 2012 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, he mentions just that these may be among the set of asteroids that can indicate this.However, this soulmate calculator may already be a bit outdated with all the current research he has been doing int he meantime.
Or not. Only he can know. But as I said, I like exchanging views, but in the last instance the information has to resonate with my own mind.
That's completely understandable - it's the same with me. So anyway i'm not gonna argue that till blood.  I'm a Libra, i'm not arguing type. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2012 10:58 AM
I actually agree with you on us having many soulmates, and some are just crossing our path to give us an important message.However in most cases people come here and asking about soulmates, what is often meant is: "Are we meant to be? Is he the ONE?"
Granted not everyone means that, but usually people are less interested to know in general soulmateship, but more specifically in the romantic soulmates. Maybe if someone asks for soulmate ship, we should ask to which kind of soulmates they are referring.
In my post I was referring to soulmates whom you might have a close interconnection with (wel, not always forever, but at least for a considerable amount of time and with a greater depth of emotional bond);
I am quite bitchy about it because I see how easy it is to grasp for straws in this regard and the more objects you are checking, the easier the grasping gets.
But honestly I think astrology aside it`s something you feel inside, though there is always the risk of selfdelusion if you are falling in love.
The core connection I mentioned make me more certain about the soul-connection between two people. Doesn´t mean there can`t be any without these aspects. But IF the aspects occur, I am fairly sure I am looking at something quite special here. Same reason I am using tight orbs. Not that I don´t think wider ones don´t "work". But I am very certain exact orbs are intense.
Actually it sometimes feels to me like if the orb is wider, it gets easier to switch your mind inbetween, being more rational about the aspect, like there is a time elapsing in which you can decide if you want to react or not.
BUt if the orb is exact it is like an instanteous Action-reaction thing. Maybe othrs experience it differently, but that was the impression I got.
Same with luminaries on the angles or example. No way to escape these, especially if in exact orbs.
And no we do not argue, we just exchange our views.
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methree
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