posted March 24, 2013 06:01 PM            

1980 Tezcatlipoca is an Amor-type asteroid discovered on June 19, 1950 by Alfred G. Wilson and Ake Wallenquist at Palomar Observatory near Pauma Valley, California and named for the Mesoamerican god of matter and darkness. It has a period(year) of about 2 years, 88 days.

(Amor and Apollo-type asteroids, classes of asteroid named for their prototypes, orbit within the inner solar system; Apollo-type asteroids cross Earth's orbit, often going inside the orbit of Mercury during perihelion; but Amor-type asteroids do not cross Earth's orbit.)

Tezcatlipoca("smoking mirror" in Nahuatl, the Aztec language)was originally a god of the Toltecs, who lived in the mountains to the east of the Valley of Mexico, where Mexico City now stands. Tezcatlipoca was the son of the primal supreme creator deity Tonacatecuhtli, who was hermaphroditic and remote, and later associated with the Judeo-Christian Jehovah. Tezcatlipoca is credited with co-creating the universe with his twin brother Quetzalcoatl, god of light, wisdom and culture, who also has an asteroid named for him. After Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca were born of Tonacatecuhtli, they did the actual work of creation. Tezcatlipoca ripped the jaw off Cipactli(or Imix, as the Mayans called it), the primeval alligator whose back is the Earth, dragging it from the dark depths of a great lake. Tezcatlipoca eventually engineered the downfall of Quetzalcoatl, by getting him drunk and causing him to have sex with his sister.

Tezcatlipoca was a powerful warrior, magician and diviner who saw prophetic visions in his mirror of obsidian, from which his name was derived. He was believed to have dominion over the rhythm of the twenty named days of the calendar. The thirteenth day-sign Reed(Acatl to the Aztecs, Ben to the Mayans), was under his particular dominion, as was the eighteenth day-sign Knife(Tecpatl to the Aztecs, Etz'nab to the Mayans), which was actually under the rulership of Chalchiuhtotolin, an aspect of Tezcatlipoca known as "the jeweled turkey", who conferred great good fortune upon those bold enough to grab his tail.

In astrology, Tezcatlipoca stands for darkness, scheming, giving without taking; criminal, evil, predatory or antisocial behavior; the occult, materialism, opportunism; the anti-hero, the sorcerer or other individual who considers himself or herself above the written and unwritten laws that govern human conduct.

posted March 24, 2013 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Stupendous research Keela, thanks for posting.
1980 is an Asteroid which will affect mostly those with Native American ancestry, Mexicans and Central Americans.
For other people, the symbolism is akin to Hades, Lucifer and Loki. In fact, there is a bit of Merlin as well in the symbolism.
Have to study this more.

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Thats very interesting iQ, my grandma was full blown Cherokee Indian, she hated the religion my mom chose to become a part of and its the reason my dad left. Growing up in that religion, i find it interesting that Tez asteroid makes such a big aspect in my chart....

Tezcatlipoca virgo 6.25 in 12th house
Quetzalcoatl pisces 8.53 in 6th house
Varuna gemini@7.56 in 9th house

Sun saggy@4.28
Mercury saggy@3.34
Neptune saggy@11.04

My 12th house has a close conjunction of several painful virgo asteroids including Dejanira, Child and my unaspected Moon...
Tezcatlipoca conjuncts my dejanira

Tezcatlipoca is the 1st asteroid in this list of asteroids, my virgo house ends with asteroid Excalibur virgo@29 leading into my asteroid karma and Ascendant.

This is funny to me....
asteroid "Lynch" is exactly conjunct my Tezcatlipoca

Osiris sits exactly conjunct to Quetzalcoatl

Varuna meaning...
The energy of Varuna is that which is too large to comprehend. In this respect, it has some attributes of the 12th house — the house of overwhelming or incomprehensible aspects of life that act out of sight or in the deep background.

One astrologer who has done some interesting work with Varuna is Juan Revilla of Costa Rica. In an email conversation a few years ago, Juan explained to me his interpretation that Varuna is quite literally “behind everything” — a potent and ominous force lingering in the far reaches of our lives. Among the many deities who have had planets and asteroids named for them, Varuna’s energy seems closest to what we think of as God, the all-knowing cosmic entity that exists silently behind consciousness and events.

posted March 25, 2013 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Tezcatlipoca virgo 6.25 in 12th house
Quetzalcoatl pisces 8.53 in 6th house
Varuna gemini@7.56 in 9th house

Sun saggy@4.28
Mercury saggy@3.34
Neptune saggy@11.04

This is funny to me....
asteroid "Lynch" is exactly conjunct my Tezcatlipoca

Osiris sits exactly conjunct to Quetzalcoatl

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I'm just remarking on some of what you wrote briefly now, but thanks for pitching in in any case likewise. I'll get back with a closer look when I can. You prompted me to check 7824 Lynch in my chart and apparently it's 18' from my Ascendant, conjunct Patientia. I can see the word as it is when coming to it via a thread like this but my automatic reaction was to think of David Lynch the director of the weird first.

Wiki: "Known for his surrealist films, he has developed his own unique cinematic style, which has been dubbed "Lynchian", a style characterized by its dream imagery and meticulous sound design. The surreal, and in many cases, violent, elements contained within his films have been known to "disturb, offend or mystify" audiences."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch offers lynching, an old English terrace and lynchpin for an alternate spelling of linchpin, Lynch syndrome (a cancerous one) and some more. I think I'd prefer the third option, "something [or someone] that holds the various elements of a complicated structure together" or David Lynch the most.

"The English surname of Lynch derives from the Old English hlinc (meaning "hill") and denotes residence on a hillside." Terraced things also tying to that, no doubt.

The official origin for asteroid Lynch:
"Named in honor of William Lynch III of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and an outstanding model of efficiency, friendliness and dedication to his work and responsibilities. He is the epitome of the NASA/JPL motto, "Faster, better and cheaper", in the sense that anyone who works in a highly-charged, positive fashion, streamlined for action, leads to a more successful and economical operation. Always with a big smile and a cheerful greeting, he is one of JPL's biggest assets."

posted March 25, 2013 10:03 PM            

Thought my Osiris was Pisces@8, but its at Pisces@10, opposed Tez and makes t-square when you include Varuna....
Varuna being the outlet for the t-square! Very fitting!

posted March 25, 2013 10:34 PM            

Tezcatlipoca virgo@6.25
Sphinx virgo@6.45
Hypnos virgo@4.44
(14959) TRIUMF virgo@10.51
Inca virgo@12.29
Juno virgo@12.30
(658) Asteria virgo@12.37

Amor pisces@5.29
Quetzalcoatl pisces@8.53
Osiris pisces@10.42(2 degree conjunction, amazing call on that one)
Link pisces@11.37
Paradise pisces@10.15
(1489) Attila pisces@11.56

(33154) Talent gemini@5.50
Thereus gemin@6.36
Varuna gemini@7.56
Ceres gemini@9.20
Atropos gemini@10.35
Nemesis gemini@10.57

Sun saggy@4.28
(5808) Babel saggy@3.37
(8990) Compassion saggy@3.15
Mercury saggy@3.37
Iris saggy@9.21
Neptune saggy@11.04
(3808) Tempel saggy@12.32
(6710) Apostel saggy@12.32

(22003) Startek virgo@13.23
(2309) Mr. Spock saggy@14.56

posted March 26, 2013 11:57 AM            

As in, I have Venus at 6'57 Virgo so that and my Cortesi obviously tie to your Tezc & co. I'd keep the orbs at 2-3 degrees maximum so although there's a possible stellium run with your Virgo things to Inca-Juno-Asteria, it might not directly tie to your Tezcatlipoca per se. You said they're all in 12th house though so from that end there may be something interesting for you to find out there, I wouldn't know.

May I ask where your 38628 Huya is, btw? It's a plutino/TNO and slow so yours is likely to be toward the end of Leo if I have your year guessed right. I'm mostly asking because it ties to Amerindians in Norther Columbia and Venezuela, just South of the Central American region IQ referred to, and is the first god from their side that got an asteroid named for it.

Huya "was discovered in March 2000 by Ignacio Ferrin and announced on 24 October 2000. It was assigned the name Huya, after Juyá, the Wayuu rain god, in August 2003 by the International Astronomical Union (IAU).

At the time of its discovery, Huya was the biggest and brightest trans-Neptunian object found since Pluto."

The size and more make me find it interesting, but there's practically nothing out there aside http://markandrewholmes.com/huya.html Holmes' text on it again. I disagree with using the Angel waterfalls for the basis of the symbol he created for Huya though, since he's the god of rain and the Wayuu seem more tied to Columbia in what I read, not waterfalls and a tiny bit less so the Venezuelan side on the Wayuu-front, too. There are more Wayuu on the Venezuelan side by numbers, but the Net-glance gave the impression that Columbia was more featured somehow. Watch my asteroid Columbia conjunct Pluto-Merman come into play here, maybe?

I did some research into the god Juyá back a few years ago when I first discovered the asteroid was conjunct my Sun at 28 Leo, but I don't know if it's an additional native American link or not. Many of the texts read were in Spanish so I had to rely on online translations, but I got the gist of some more mythology or stories tying to him, anyway. He does have a mythological partner but I've forgotten her name by now and they're unlikely to have named anything after her so far yet. Hopefully she'll exist somewhere up there as well though.

Holmes states that "Astrologically, Huya (pronounced hoo-YAH) seems to signify service, awareness of something missing, environmentalism, failure to pay attention".

Many of Holmes' examples seem to be of wrongdoers or criminals of one sort or another in his asteroid checks, so I'm still asking the world to give me something more and beyond the negatives on whatever is out there. I also linked to his Huya article because there he lists Tezcatlipoca as "Taking without giving" so my suspicion that he got the text mixed up in his Tezc article seems right.

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I checked to see what aspected here....maybe you will see something that stands out to you as having meaning...

Tezcatlipoca virgo@6.25
Sphinx virgo@6.45

Amor pisces@5.29
Quetzalcoatl pisces@8.53
Osiris pisces@10.42(2 degree conjunction, amazing call on that one)
Link pisces@11.37
Paradise pisces@10.15
(1489) Attila pisces@11.56

(33154) Talent gemini@5.50
Thereus gemin@6.36
Varuna gemini@7.56
Ceres gemini@9.20

Sun saggy@4.28
(5808) Babel saggy@3.37
(8990) Compassion saggy@3.15
Mercury saggy@3.34
Iris saggy@9.21

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Quoting Wiki-articles on the Wayuu again... "The structure of representation of this culture integrates a series of important deities into their mythical universe. Their central figure is Mareiwa, god creator of the Wayuu and founder of society. Pulowi and Juya, a married deity couple associated with procreation and life, where Pulowi is the female figure; related the wind and dry seasons, and Juya the male; a nomad figure related to hunting and seen as a powerful killer. Wanulu represents the evil god, illness and death."

So Pulowi was it. Currently there are only 22880) Pulaski
(762) Pulcova
(66843) Pulido
(12519) Pullen
(241192) Pulyny
and no named asteroid or other object called Pulowi. None of which has anything specific to do with Tezcatlipoca or Mayans, but since there's little talk of native American things normally and I don't mind people veering in different directions in the post, why not?

posted March 26, 2013 12:50 PM            

I just realized Tez touches all my angles..
inconjunct my AC libra@7.05
semi-sextile my DC aries@7.05
trine my IC cap@7.56
sextile my DC cancer@7.56

5863 Tara virgo@5.49
Conscience virgo@6.58
Patientia virgo@8.55
18 Melpomene virgo@10.07
672 Astarte virgo@11.15(to far?)

These aspect Tez also, maybe it will be helpful to you in your research?
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Admetos taurus@5.16
Atlantis taurus@7.21
Skuld cap@5.42
Valentine cap@ 9.10
Eros cap@9.50
287 Nephthys cap@9.45

---sextile---
Uranus scorp@4.44
3199 Nefertiti scorp@6.56
Phocaea scorp@7.16
1036 Ganymed scorp@7.37
2063 Bacchus scorp 7.38
Quaoar scorp@7.49
12472 Samadhi scorp@8.27

3671 Dionysus cancer@5.05
10 Hygiea cancer@7.46

posted April 10, 2013 01:37 PM            

Also did i see correctly your Tez cap@16?
My angel and rudra cap@16
Tez discovered at saggy@12
my neptune is saggy@11

Tez discover chart...
Sun is conj my Mars <2 deg
Moon square my Atlantis <2 deg
Merc opposed my Sun <2 deg
Venus conj my SN <1 deg
Mars conj my Karma <3 deg
Jupiter opposed my Sphinx/Tez <0 deg
Saturn conj my Dejanira <1deg
Uranus conj my MC <3 deg
Uranus opposed my Skuld <1 deg
Neptune opposed my Jup <0 deg
Pluto trine my Jup <1 deg
NN opposed my Karma <2 deg
NN conj my B.M. Lilith <0 deg
Chiron opposed my Venus <0 deg

Asteroids founded by founder of Tez
Exact aspects--
Geographica and Wilson on my SN
Karma sq my Jup
Merlin conj my Excalibur
Loke conj my Alma
Fox opposed my Uranus
Angel sq my Sun

posted April 11, 2013 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Hmm...my atlantis is taurus@7, exact trine to my virgo tez and sphinx
its close trine to cap skuld@5, eros and valentine cap@9-10

Also did i see correctly your Tez cap@16?

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Only five asteroids were found or named by A.G. Wilson according to Wiki. The rest below those were just going by the name and other things in what IQ may have listed elsewhere or here, or things in my particular chart, or I forget what right now. I should possibly have seen about Magion as well in relation to magic, but I'm generally always low on online time and checks take time. I also don't know the exact time of discovery as stated so the Moon of the chart is naturally suspect. It could be later in Sagittarius as well.

I doubt Skuld on its own would have meaning in relation to Tezcatlipoca since they're geographically or mythologically worlds away, but Valentine-Eros may always do something in relation to some of the rest with your chart if it ties to your angles as well. I wouldn't know and especially not without a closer look, which I haven't had the time for recently.