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Topic: KARMA - Discussion
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5496 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: it's fine and reads well. These seem to be classified along a continuum from past to future. is there any information on how Karma works in tandem with Freewill? These two are opposed to one another but co-exist.
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posted March 23, 2013 02:47 PM
Opposed in so far as some events in your life are predetermined according to past Karma and some are a matter of choice. However, according to iQ, free will points are earned by past good deeds - so in one respect, the facility to use free will is also 'fated'. In this sense, the two notions are not opposed. What a conundrum!IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5496 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 03:04 PM
It's not, not really. Sanchita karma represents all actions/deeds of previous lives. We come into this life with Sanchita Karma, that decides our 'fate' in this life. While we are living our lives, prarabdha karma kicks in. That's why we say the most innocent stage of our lives is when we are babies!LOL
As we grow older, we make our own choices...we set in motion events that will likely shape our own fate... I started a thread some time ago on Karma dharmadhipathi yoga in a natal chart, that would explain kriyamana and agama karma. If the 9th lord of dharma mutually aspect the 10th lord of karma, the person good actions/thoughts in this present life will most likely help him reach the happiness he/she desires. IP: Logged |
Jim Knowflake Posts: 155 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 05:58 PM
Hey astro keen , sorry for taking so long to answer , let me answer your questions Well yes it sounds as it might apply i usually think about the possible terriblest outcomes possibles, i do it in a way to be prepared mostly tough, and about being afraid i do relate specially if its regarding the futre, one might never know what happens , one might never know where one migth end up, thats why all we have is prevention and to be prepared for scenarios, tough i gotta admit discipline comes very hard to me, when it comes to responsabilities im usually avoiding them or leaving them to the last moment. it's just so easy to break something you should be disciplined about, like diets , homeworks anything that needs dicipline it is just very easy for me to break them. I hope thats what you were refering to. and so to make it a bit clearer like you said while saturn is the weapon , the asteroid karma IS MUCH MORE SPECIFICALLY about it? oh and i read about retrograde karma in pisces, i gotta admit ive never felt completely mentally sane theres always images and stuff popping up in my mind , and its so easy for me to get lost inside my tougths lol, kind of like i told you , i prepare for the worst scenarios , but sometimes they come by witouth me wanting it. IP: Logged |
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posted March 25, 2013 07:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jim:
Well yes it sounds as it might apply i usually think about the possible terriblest outcomes possibles, i do it in a way to be prepared mostly tough, and about being afraid i do relate specially if its regarding the futre, one might never know what happens , one might never know where one migth end up, thats why all we have is prevention and to be prepared for scenarios, tough i gotta admit discipline comes very hard to me, when it comes to responsabilities im usually avoiding them or leaving them to the last moment.
Yes, it does indeed apply. To repeat -"With Saturn in Pisces, there's a built-in pressure to meet uncertainty with courage and discipline. Your karmic tests show you how to cultivate faith, face your fears of being submerged, and learn how to manage emotional intensity.' So, the challenges may be to be less fearful, less paranoid, and more positive." In your bid to keep yourself prepared for the worst outcomes, you are being negative instead of positive. Have you heard of the Law of Attraction? At its simplest level, it says that positive attitudes and beliefs about yourself and the future invite good things in your life. The reverse is also true. The universe responds to both negative and positive attitudes. As it turns out, loving yourself is the greatest way to improve yourself, and as you improve yourself, you improve your world and the way it interacts with you. An effective way to set positve beliefs into motion is through affirmations. Repeat to yourself, as many times as day as you can, that you are good, wonderful, intelligent etc and that good things, e.g., you will be successful in your studies, will happen to you and eventually your brain will hear this and believe it. This will set a positive flow of energy in your direction. You also need to discipline yourself to set aside some time everyday when you attend to practical tasks, like homework. Say to yourself - "I am not going to immerse myself in my thoughts during this time - this time is for this activity". This simple strategy should help bring a sense of balance in your life. It is fortuante that you have become interested in astrology and are learning how to help yourself, given the possibilities/challenges in your chart. You have planets in your 12th house (I read this in another thread) it seems, which can be either good or challenging. Understanding your chart well could be a key way to fulfilling your potential. All the content of the karma thread was written by iQ and he offers readings if you are interested. http://www.tamsoft.co.in/New_services.html Best of luck. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73598 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 25, 2013 05:46 PM
Sorry Astrokeen You asked for my input as a Born Again Christian and I had my Gemini self with her hand in a million things and forgot.I do not believe in past lives. Karma is used in this way. I use it as a fated experience for this life. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Jim Knowflake Posts: 155 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 26, 2013 04:44 AM
Thank you so much astro keen for the follow up , regarding the law of attraction indeed i do have searched it up and i have read about it, im very interested in out of "science" things just like astrology , numerology, i cannot tell you i believe in all of the ones i've investigated but i can tell you i do like reading about new ideas and theories , i never really got to prove if the law of attraction works or not but i do think its very probably, thougths governs our heads and just like thougths can get us into having mental illnes, i believe that positive thougths can give us some "strengths" So i will make sure to test it, i will try for my own good ,to stop the negative ones and try on focusing on the good ones regarding IQ readings i know , ive read about him , i usually like reading ami articles , and she mentions him sometimes in her asteroid articles , i know he is well reknown cause of his knowledge in asteroids, i've always wanted to 'buy' a reading from some real astrologer, not just some automatized site, i guess i will have to give it a try sometimes .
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iQ Moderator Posts: 5987 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2013 05:27 AM
Thought I should make a fresh contribution about Asteroid Karma. I was researching one of Chennai's most eccentric, gifted and conflicted man of all time: Shihan Hussaini. He has broken several world records in martial arts, endurance and even weird stuff. And he is extremely honest, as he says he is doing this for seeking attention for social causes. Most recently, he made a Blood statue of the State's Chief Minister by collected 24 units of his own blood over a period of 8 years. Born 28th December 1966 with obviously a Leo Ascendant, I first checked his chart to assess his life experiences. 12th House Moon in Cancer indicated severe family conflicts from marrying a girl outside his religion. He is secular and hates the orthodox religious mafia, this is clear from Uranus opposed to Saturn.His Jupiter is also in Leo. But does that alone explain his outrageous attention seeking? Time to check the Asteroids. And the stand out Asteroid? KARMA. Karma conjuncts Jupiter exact in Leo: Fated to Magnify/Grow by seeking attention. Yet another example of how Asteroid Karma can make a powerful impact when conjunct personal planets or other important Asteroids. IP: Logged |
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posted March 26, 2013 06:25 AM
Great! Thank you iQ. (Incidentally, I too have a Leo Asc with Jupiter in Leo. Perhaps not seeking attention quite so outrageously since, thankfully, my Karma does not aspect Jupiter. ) IQ, it would be very helpful to have a section on releasing techniques in the KARMA thread. In a previous post (2010), you had wanted to start a discussion on these. You'd mentioned 4: "1. Ho Oponopono/Forgiveness Techniques 2. Emotional Freedom Technique/Tapping Method 3. Oversoul/Superconsciousness Release Technque 4. Karmic Release New Age Gurus do tend to neglect Causal Body Release, Astrology, Soul Group Contracts and Past Life Debts. And many confuse the subconscious Mind with Superconscious Mind, even though both keep recording every lifeline's information." This is truly fascinating and I'm sure there would be lots of people here who would like to know more. It seems to me that all these techniques would free one of Karmic debts, so I am intersted in finding out what it is that you refer to as No 4. Karmic release. Ths would be great to discuss - will start a new thread and very much hope for your input.
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vesta Knowflake Posts: 3343 From: Stars Registered: May 2009
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posted April 19, 2013 12:23 PM
I had just taken notice that when my soulmate came the other soulmate that I had karma with that his natal karma was activated. His progressed ASC and Jenny was in a 1 degree orb from his natal karma. his natal Jenny is conjunct his natal PNE a very karmic point in the natal chart. his progressed karma was conjunct his pluto. his prog valentine was conjunct his uranus and Jennifer. and transiting John and Jenny were conjunct my NN. In our composite chart our Jenny and karma are conjunct his natal NN. IP: Logged |
pvorb Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted November 23, 2013 05:52 PM
Sup. So I have retrograde Karma in Pisces along with retrograde Saturn in Cap. Don't feel like visiting a psychiatric ward any time soon, don't do drugs, don't drink (at least alone not). I'd better rewarded good for this, you hear me!  My Karma only makes an exact trine to Jupiter btw.IP: Logged |
aah08 Knowflake Posts: 525 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 02, 2013 07:29 PM
So interesting!! I have my karma retro conjunct my saturn retro in Piscis 7th house. But is trine my jupiter=)Maybe that's why its so difficult for me to have a relationship with someone. Well, I've never had one. But i'm looking forward to change that. I hope so.! IP: Logged |
NandiNode Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted December 15, 2013 09:52 PM
So is this where to ask the questions re. Karma?
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Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 28, 2013 01:35 PM
Could anyone help me with an interpretation of Karma opposite Saturn?IP: Logged |
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posted December 28, 2013 05:40 PM
Karma opposite Saturn indicates lots of challenges in life (just quoting from iQ's posts). In the most negative forms, these could be illnesses, suffering, ill-treatment by those in authority, feeling restricted, foiled in all attempts at growth. Karma opp big planets is considered an unfortunate placement and karmic release exercises are suggested to rid yourself of or diffuse the negative effects. IP: Logged |
JennsenS2 Knowflake Posts: 82 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted December 29, 2013 10:11 AM
Astro keen, what about Juno opposite Karma in one's natal chart ? Aqua Juno in 3rd house and Leo Karma in 9th house. Thank you .IP: Logged |
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posted December 29, 2013 11:02 AM
Hi I am merely quoting from the KARMA thread. Take a look at it - link at top of this thread There are passages which tell you about Karma in houses and signs. You will need to blend these together. You could also look up the sabian symbol for your Karma, which will give you an indication of the issues that need resolving or, alternatively, how you may be rewarded.Re Juno: This will be similar somewhat to Karma opposite Venus, however, with Juno the focus will be on marriage or relatedness and commitment to another over time. An opposition with Juno is likely to indicate challenges you may have to face in this sphere - marriage and commitment. IP: Logged |
JennsenS2 Knowflake Posts: 82 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted December 29, 2013 11:18 AM
Hi ,Hmmm... Didn't think about interpreting that aspect like Karma opposite Venus. Thanks ! IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 29, 2013 03:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Karma opposite Saturn indicates lots of challenges in life (just quoting from iQ's posts). In the most negative forms, these could be illnesses, suffering, ill-treatment by those in authority, feeling restricted, foiled in all attempts at growth. Karma opp big planets is considered an unfortunate placement and karmic release exercises are suggested to rid yourself of or diffuse the negative effects.
Interesting. I also stumbled accross this quote from IQ " Karma square/opp Saturn is the heaviest position. Indicates a life full of lessons to be learnt and karmic debt to be balanced relating to all human limitations in general. This is a bit like 29 in Numerology, to master grace under pressure. The rewards for bearing the lessons gracefull are tremendous." on this link http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20100503-1-009192.html . Also from there " Karma square/opp Sat N - Tons of suffering, illnesses or pains, ruthlessly illltreated by authority, suffocated, foiled in all attempts at growth in power." And "Note: The actual negativities will not be as scary as written, this is just to give the idea that Negative Karma committed by those who have Karma sq/opp big planets is not at all advisable, and all those who have this unfortunate placement should be aware that they do have this, and mentally cleanse by affirming happy thoughts for others and self. This converts the N-Karma to P-Karma , which alleviates the malefic effect no matter what." Well... Unfortunately for me, I have this aspect and I can vouch for the fact that I have had to face many challenges, not of the fireworks and drama kind, but of the kind that demands endurance, patience, and sacrafice. I sometimes get the impression that in a past life I was maybe too indulged, had freedom and ease when others did not, and to balance this lnow I am learning what it is like to be repressed, restrained, unrewarded in spite of effort, resposible, the unrecognised force behind the scenes ... And basically to get rid of selfishness and ego at all levels. It is kind of ok, surprisingly... the only time it really gets to me is if I expect things to be "fair" so that is one line of thought I try to avoid.
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posted December 29, 2013 03:59 PM
This is the conundrum which one finds oneself in. Whilst it is helpful to take a long view and see events in your life as part of a whole which encompasses previous lives, is this view contrary to the law of attraction or in accord with valuing yourself? LOA impels one to expect the utmost, the best, to be full of optimism etc. Similarly, Karmic release techniques are based on the assumption that any tiresome and difficult experiences can be lightened or shortened. This of course begs the question - what would happen to lessons that need to be learnt, if one succeeded in avoiding the hard lessons. These could be lessons about being patient, or building inner stability, or valuing oneself, and so on.So, should we be tolerant of our burdens or should do all we can, including using LOA techniques, to expect and demand what is our due, or a fortunate life? IP: Logged |
Moon is Lunatic Knowflake Posts: 839 From: With my pr. 12H Moon conj. Neptune Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 29, 2013 04:57 PM
How to interpret Karma conjunct IC?IP: Logged |
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posted December 29, 2013 10:44 PM
Are there some good links to the asteroid Karma in synastry? This all seems to speak of Karma in one's natal chart, unless I'm not looking closely enough...?IP: Logged |
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posted December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
More specifically, in synastry:Who has the karma? The Karma person or the planet person, or both? Example, Fiona's Karma is conjunct Fred's Sun. Who feels the karmic debt or bounty? Also in synastry: Karma square NN/SN axis? Karma opposite Pluto? Thanks for any answers or educated guesses.  IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 30, 2013 01:28 AM
Astro keen. Quite true, it is a conundrum. Personally, what works for me is a modified version of LOA. I find that if I set the kind of goals that involve me getting, having, or accomplishing something/someone - then these strong desires are no good for me. What works better are goaless goals, not SMART ones that you use in business. It is more like "being" than doing or getting. It is choosing a direction and experiencing the flow of the natural rhythms of that...regardless of outcome... Just radical acceptance of whatever comes because change for better or worse is how life is. It is how you experience or respond to change that matters, not the nature of the change itself. When I am able to experience the flow with more awareness, less resistance ... Then the negative impact of karma seems less. I find when I want less, grasp for less... I get more. IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 01, 2014 02:26 AM
any idea what Karma conjunct Fortuna in Leo (8H) means?IP: Logged | |