posted March 05, 2016 11:40 AM            

True about the generational connections. Here are my father's birth and death charts in a synastry wheel. I have his exact birth time but the death time could be off by up to a half hour:

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His sun 24.17 Libra
Tr Atropos 24.37 Libra
His Mars 25.04 Libra

His death chart has a lot of conjunctions with my birth chart and his progressed chart. (His pr sun = my natal sun = tr sun)

Remarkably his SR chart for the year he died has sun conjunct Mars again (SR Mars @ 26.03 Libra).

And of course, my IC is conjunct his sun.

My dad and husband have Atropos conjunct Atropos within a degree....

posted March 05, 2016 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Aw, Ceri, that's sweet. I love to think of Mr Sag being there for you in a crisis, no matter how fleetingly, or insignificant it might look on the surface. His placement in that "scene" just seems fitting.

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Well, I remember those two days very very clearly, like standstill photos, just with the emotional experience behind it, which is rare enough for me, anyway, what I remember so much is sitting on that bench, looking up into the sky, and it was so blue that it almost felt surreal, and there was a slight breeze in the trees around, and I felt so completely serene and at peace with everything (my heart had literally been broken in a myriad little pieces the weeks before, my life completely changed, and of course the pain was not simply gone, but still this was a moment of justice, balance and just serenity. You know one of these rare moments when you just know that it`s alright, even if you may be going through a hard phase personally, it still feels alright somehow, and I had the feeling as if I was looking up right into heaven, not just the sky. lol

Well then the feeling vaporized a little and made place for a little worry, cause there was this little girl running around, maybe 2-3 years of age, and yes she completely distracted me so I did not pay too much attention to what Mr Sag or anyone else was doing on stage, and on one level the mother of that girl annoyed me, because she just wouldn`t care even a little bit about what her daughter was doing. I mean I was seriously looking out more for her, especially when she was running into the undergrowth to collect twigs and leaves there, I couldn´t help it. I am too much of a teacher to NOT have my eyes on little children all the time. And in fact she also distract me cause she would be running to me all the time, showing me whatever she found, climbing all over me, run away again, come back to do more climbing. lol Anyway, in a way she seemed also a bit like an angel sent to me for that day to remind me that there is a balance in everything. Nothing is being taken away without something else being "born".

Strange response to that day on my behalf, as I was well maybe not happy, but very serene.

posted March 05, 2016 12:00 PM            

BTW I looked up Atropos in my parents Davison.

in Virgo in 2nd house (funny - their Davison Atropos is on the very same degree as Mr Sag`s and mine are in our Davison )

Well for them however Atropos in 2nd house has these aspects:
- square Eros (2)
- trine Ceres exact
- sextile PoF (1)

posted March 05, 2016 12:08 PM            

I am searching for the meaning of Astraea to copy here (I know of course what she means, but wanted to have a little back up from some resource), and find Jude Law.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0221/8434/files/Natal-Asteroids.pdf

posted March 05, 2016 12:14 PM            

https://wegoastrology.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/astraea-asteroid-through-zodiac-signs/

posted March 05, 2016 12:29 PM            

Just taking it all in.

posted March 05, 2016 05:31 PM            

@Ceri

Astraea is my kind of girl

I have it at 2 Capricorn, forming a yod with my 1 Gemini Ceres-Atropos and 0 Leo Saturn.

I love your story of that time after your grandmother died. Makes me feel comfortable and serene just reading it.

And it reminds me of how I felt after my friend's mother died....I had been pretty close to her and felt like I owed her so much. She was a Capricorn and deliberately semi-adopted me after my mother died (telling my father that she would help take care of me...and indeed, she was often cooking dinner for me on school nights, taking me on family vacations...she really made my life much richer as a teenager.)

Actually her sun would be conjunct my Astraea (she was born on Christmas.)

posted March 05, 2016 05:37 PM            

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm

Nevermind that sun there, I'm sure it was a typo or misunderstanding. God loves me and wouldn't put Atropos' sun on my moon.

j/k

Actually I have many conjunctions with that chart.

ETA: How fitting for it a Scorpio ASC conjunct 12H Mars? Mars forming a sort of yod with Pluto-Neptune and Pallas.

posted March 06, 2016 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Good question, Sunnya.

I don't have any idea...I might research it later if no one pops in to explain...but I'm really bad with mythology.

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I can definitely improve my mythology knowledge too .

Admetos is an hypothetical planet and stand for unavoidable fate as I learned from this thread created by LeeLoo: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000883.html
It's a great read, I definitely recommend it

I am still trying to understand where Atropos stand, hence why I would like to explore and compare the different fate related asteroids.

posted March 07, 2016 10:33 AM            

Not saying too much about your asteroid picture but I paid close attention and love it.

I need to read that thread you linked to and get serious about learning about these Fates. Lee's article on the Norns was fabulous (and thank you again for directing me there! )

I have Admetos at 0 Leo, exactly conjunct Saturn.

I have Klotho at 0 Aries, exactly conjunct Vesta. I'll try not to be vain and boast too loudly, but that is a very optimal position for Klotho don't you think?? "New beginnings"...uh huh. And I got married then.

posted March 08, 2016 11:26 AM            

Ah yes that Klotho/Vesta mix in fiery Aries oooh lalala lol. I love it! Interesting the degree too.

I am sorry about your dad and for being close to your birthday, that must have been very tough... A day that might bring mixed feelings to you.
You seem to share a beautiful and soulful connection with him too, I hope this have been helping you to deal better with everything and made you feel closer to him even nowadays, despite the circumstances .

Your Moon in Pisces in the 8th sounds awesome, I would love to have that freaky, yet deep and delightful position!

Aaaaaand your ASC being close to Leo 8 is probably conjunct my Mars then. Fun times

posted March 09, 2016 09:38 AM            

Thanks for your comment I love our ASC-Mars conjunction, feels familiar somehow.

posted March 09, 2016 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I love interesting unique stories that people would think are crazy Happy for you!

Thanks for your comment I love our ASC-Mars conjunction, feels familiar somehow.

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Thank you!

And you are right, it does feel familiar.

posted April 08, 2016 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Sunnya:
I can definitely improve my mythology knowledge too .

Admetos is an hypothetical planet and stand for unavoidable fate as I learned from this thread created by LeeLoo: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000883.html
It's a great read, I definitely recommend it

I am still trying to understand where Atropos stand, hence why I would like to explore and compare the different fate related asteroids.

I can see Atropos as an ending but I don't totally see it as bad... Like Ceridwen's parent's chart, it was an ending to single life, but a start of a great new life phase.
So Atropos was a good girl here, she does not seem to always misbehave .

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I have to agree with you, Sunnya- Atropos isn't always bad. When I last commented, I had been grieving over my nephew -and pouring over his chart- and totally forgot that I have it conjunct my Sun. (Sun- 13.57 Aries, Atropos- 12.11 Aries, (along with Eris- 13.20 Aries, Chariklo- 11.16 Aries, Psyche- 11.41 Aries)....... I'm now over 40.

posted April 30, 2016 10:21 AM            

Tr Sun 6 Taurus
Tr Atropos 7 Scorpio

my friend has Uranus-NN on 4 Scorpio
The transit highlighted actually the 2-3 days before the actual event, but I guess it makes sense.

her pr Uranus is on 6 Scorpio and pr Mars on 8 Scorpio though.

Tr NN was conjunct her pr Moon exact

A progressed T-square of

p Ceres 11 Virgo
p Pholus 12 Pisces
p Neptune 12 Sag

with Tr Neptune oppospite p Ceres exact, while it is the ruler of the MC in her chart.

p Atropos square p Proserpina
Tr Persephone square n Atropos exact

Tr Nessus conjunct her MC exact

Tr Pluto square her p MC within a degree, after Tr Uranus having been conjunct her p MC in january/ february

posted April 30, 2016 05:02 PM            

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Tr NN was conjunct her pr Moon exact

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I wonder if that's common?

I had node contacts when I lost each of my parents.

When my mother died:

18.57 Scorpio, my mean NN
18.10 Scorpio, pr NN
18.09 Scorpio, tr Pluto
18.12 Pisces, my natal moon in the 8H

0.59 Aqua, my pr sun
0.21 Aqua, tr NN
0.28 Aqua, my moon-Neptune midpoint
0.36 Leo, my Saturn, conjunct tr SN

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When my father died:
19.21 Pisces, tr NN, on my moon

17.19 Scorpio, my pr NN
17.19 Aqua, my pr sun
18.19 Aqua, tr Neptune (ruler of moon/tr NN)

posted April 30, 2016 05:51 PM            

To be honest I am not sure how I would handle this. And not sure I could survive it. I am very amazed at my friend`s ability to be so very conscious of the depth of her loss and sadness and mourning, but at the same time still having the perspective of life going on (even though of course in a very different way, as life can`t ever be like it was before after that kind of cut - you know what I mean).

posted April 30, 2016 05:56 PM            

Dr tr Moon opposite Dr Saturn

Dr tr Saturn widely square Dr Chiron

Dr tr Uranus square Dr MC

posted May 01, 2016 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
well according to Noel tyl the nodal axis is related to maternal symbolism and especially the connection to the mother, and Moon is a family-symbol, so it actually would make sense.

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That DOES make sense. Also my father served as both parents for a while, my draconic moon is conjunct Saturn if that matters.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Though that is scaring me now as tr NN is applying to quinkunx my natal Moon. On the other hand we got through Tr Pluto squra emy n Moon without any too big troubles in terms of my mom.

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Right, we all go though lots of NN-moon transits. Tr NN @ 20 Virgo will be opposing my moon soon, with tr Pluto on my sun.

As long as my kids are okay, I'm okay.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
To be honest I am not sure how I would handle this. And not sure I could survive it.

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That's how I feel about anything happening to my children.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am very amazed at my friend`s ability to be so very conscious of the depth of her loss and sadness and mourning, but at the same time still having the perspective of life going on (even though of course in a very different way, as life can`t ever be like it was before after that kind of cut - you know what I mean).

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Yes

posted July 26, 2016 09:18 PM            

13.27 Gemini, tr Atropos
13.45 Virgo, tr NN

Her natal:
14 Virgo sun, noon chart

Tr Pluto conjunct her 16 Cap Saturn and opposing her 16 Cancer Atropos, about 1°.