posted May 14, 2013 04:48 AM            

2. it "moves" so slow, it is even more generational than Pluto (I put the word `move`into quotation marks, as since it has never been observed, his speed and location in the sky is totally hypothetical as well)

3. for those who work with hypothetical planets,

"HADES (HAY deez)
All that is unpleasant, useless, antique, or deeply buried. The occult ... Hades is misunderstood, because many think only of the negative meanings: dirt, garbage, sewage, sickness, poverty, mistakes, and all things ugly and sinister. There is a positive side that deals with antiquity, depth, and past lives. Hades advances 1°01' per year, so its orbit around the Sun takes a little over 360 years. "
http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/Uranian-Astrology-transNeptunian-Planets-3 430329.asp

The proposed orb in Uranian astrology seems to be one degree or even less. And using hard aspects, including semi- and sesisquare.

http://junojuno2.tripod.com/tnps.htm

EDIT:
they may have value, or they may have not. Everyone needs to come to their own decision about it, but I find it important to know the background of the hypothetical points.

I am not as opposed to them as I was years ago, though I still find the way they have been "invented" quite questionable, and depending on a LOT of premises, that I do not necessarily believe must be true.

" The idea was that these planets could be positioned by looking at
> solar arc directions on a person's natal chart and comparing the
> directions to events in that person's life. The upshot was that in
> looking at these solar arcs, certain forces turned up missing. For
> example , when a person got married at age 22, there should be a
> planet about 22 degrees from the midheaven, or 22 degrees from the
> moon. This planet always turned up missing, and yet when this
> missing point was compared in horoscope charts of persons about the
> same age, it was in the same spot in the zodiac.
>
> Alfred Witte, the founder of Uranian Astrology, (which he called
> "The Hamburg Method") used this technique, in fact he invented this
> technique, to discover the planet Cupido, the planet of Marriage."
http://junojuno2.tripod.com/tnps.htm

The questionable premise for me is that it is assumed that there HAD to be a conjunction through solar arcs to angles or luminaries at a certain event and age (actually there are TWO premises in this one: the one that Solar Arcs are the non-plus-ultra and only working predictive tool, excluding anything else; and that there had to be a conjunction in solar arcs).
while the premise might be true, it is still up to research and investigation, but in this system it becomes a factual reality, that ground the deriving of the hypothteticals is based on. If the premise does not turn out to be true, the whole building will collapse.

However, it is STILL intriguing to see that the "missing spots" apparently turned up CONSISTENTLY in very DIFFERENT charts.

This is what makes me soften my original stance on them a little.

Besides Anne Ortelee uses them, and her column is some of the best in terms of prediction I have ever read. so I am inclined to give the benefit of doubt, and research that within the tight parameters (one degree orb and hard aspects) and see if they deliver the results.

posted May 14, 2013 05:07 AM            

EDIT:
LOL

Interestingly Tr Sun and Tr PALLAS have just transited my natal HADES (one degree orb). I guess a good day for HADES to be illuminated and brought to awareness to me. hmm.

also as I see Tr KRONOS is conjunct my natal VULKANOS by 5 degrees of orb in my 7th house, and both opposite natal Venus (under one degree orb).

my natal KRONOS sits on my SN by 2 minutes of arc! in 7th house.

natal APOLLON sits on my MC within one degree of orb

posted May 28, 2013 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by littlefrenchy:
Hello,
I have Hades conjunct my antivertex
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opposite Neptune conjunct Vertex conjunct Siva in scorpio 5

no idea what it means. Any idea ??

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Having Hades on anti-vertex would be very significant! Anti-vertex is the ascendant for the soul. The same way whatever sits on your ascendant can be seen by everyone physically....whatever sits on your anti-vertex can be seen as something that is deeply part of your soul.
Now how exactly that plays out with Hades...would be personal also!
Hades is he god of the underworld, he brouht death...but he also had a very active personality, maybe you have traits like his? Lol!
Hades deals with the ugly, sinister things...but its also had a lot of depth and meaning! Usually out of death comes rejuvination and causes others to stop and reevaluate life! Everytime I've ever lost someone, it makes me stop n think and appreciate how precious life is!
Or maybe its more literal for you...
Does death move you, your deepest desire is to stop death? Im sure its not to cause death, maybe your a pioneer in engineering breakthrough ways of outliving life expectancy?? Lol....im playing....but somehow Hades and what it represents to your soul is going to be very obviously meaningful to you! Hades could be religious to you and maybe have a more symbolic meaning referring to Heaven and Hell....Shoel or Hades in the Bible is talking about the common grave. Are you studying to be an undertaker, own a mortuary, embalmer, coroner, forensic pathologist, maybe you like to write obituaries or work as a crime scene investigator?
Lol....this is totally hypothetical, but I think you get my point, something regarding Hades moves your soul!

posted August 11, 2015 09:08 PM            

I have Hades conjunct DSC by minutes. After researching, what resonates most for me is the drawing people to me who are digging through their depths. I have heavy Pluto themes in my chart as it is, and death and rebirth is definitely something I am familiar with. I think Hades conjunct DSC adds to this even more.

I read Hades is also prominent in the charts of healers, and I definitely feel called to heal and counsel people. People have always opened up to me, told me things that were very personal. I think Hades on DSC is bringing them in. As an aside, I have Apollo conjunct Venus and MC. Apollo is a healer as well. I believe my chart is telling me I am healing through love (Venus), and it is to be part of my path in life (MC).

posted August 11, 2015 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
So, long story short, I think Hades can be very positive too. But you have to work through your own personal garbage to be able to use it for the benefits it can offer.

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