posted November 20, 2013 04:40 AM            

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Originally posted by naturalbeige:
What asteroids do I use for singing, voice/vocals, and "finding one's own voice"?

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Tone and Echo have to do with sound in some way. I forget if there's a muse that has to do with singing in particular, but Musa may also have something to do with what you mention.

I think there was some Centaur that was to do with orating in particular, too.

posted November 21, 2013 07:39 AM            

So I have Orpheus conjunct my Vertex exact, trine my POF by 1 and opposite my sun by 2.

I also have Melpomene square my POF by 1 and widely conjunct my Destinn asteroid by 4. Does this mean I was destined to sing?

posted November 21, 2013 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I tend to look at destinn as in your given the opportunity to pursue something rather than something conjunct karma where you are forced to deal with even if you dont want to. Coming from a musical family your given the opportunity to be surrounded by music but that square to your part fortune could indicate success but at a price because pof also represents your physical health and wellbeing possibly stress on your physical body and mind.

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Wow,great post ail! I never new that about Destinn and Karma. What about the asteroids

(1009) Sirene
(11) Parthenope

Named after the sirens in greek mythology. The sirens where monsters who lived on an island that used there beautiful enchanting voices to lure nearby sailors to their deaths. I don't know what these asteroids mean but maybe they represent singing ability or an interest in singing in the chart.

posted November 21, 2013 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Orpheus.

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posted November 21, 2013 12:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Reverie:
What about the asteroids

(1009) Sirene
(11) Parthenope

Named after the sirens in greek mythology. The sirens where monsters who lived on an island that used there beautiful enchanting voices to lure nearby sailors to their deaths. I don't know what these asteroids mean but maybe they represent singing ability or an interest in singing in the chart.

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posted November 21, 2013 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I'm glad this was brought up...I've always wondered about any singing potential I might have.

So I have Orpheus conjunct my Vertex exact, trine my POF by 1 and opposite my sun by 2.

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Possibilities listed so far:

1266, 3361, 62, 27, 18, 33, 60, 1009, 11, 165

As for Orpheus, it's an obvious choice once brought up or remembered, but I always looked at it more from the "ties with 75 Eurydike" perspectives. I was also never a singer by choice despite having Orpheus on my IC by whatever minutes. Maybe it's because my Tone is conjunct Achilles as well.

posted November 21, 2013 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Personally I think this is case where house placements and chart regions are important. Ex. (Aguilera)

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Are you counting the 9th or even 8th house as something that'd faciliate singing sides? I never thought what houses tie to something like that so I wouldn't know.

posted November 21, 2013 02:20 PM              

However it was his enormous singing talent that even moved Pluto enough to concede that he might lead Eurydike from the dead back to the living.
In this way his voice almost conquered death!
In the end it was not his voice, but his doubts that cost him his wife again.

Ovid describes that Orpheus could play and sing so, that people, animals alike, yes, trees and even rocks started to cry, such beauty his art posessed.

It is the kind of voice (or probably also words) that can be very seductive and persuasive, at least to a certain extent.

Well I couldn`t resist putting those asteroids into my chart.

°Lorelay on 23 Scorpio in 1st house, trine Destinn on 23 Cancer in 8th house exact, and alowing larger orbs also trines Eros and Vertex on 21 Cancer

Sabian of Lorelay:
After Having Heard An Inspired Individual Deliver His "Sermon On The Mount," Crowds Are Returning Home

°Polyhymnia on 6 Sagittarius, just in 12th house, but conjunct ASC, Angel, LUst and Wisdom on 7 Sag, exact, also conjuncts Mars by 1 degree and Atlantis by 2 degrees.
Also conjuncts Poseidon exact and opposes Fama on my DESC on 6 Gemini

Sabian
Cupid Knocks At The Door Of A Human Heart

° Erato on 15 Sagittarius in 1st house opposes Karma on 16 Gemini (if I am generous I would consider the sextile to Moon on 17 Aqua, too)

It also conjuncts Narcissus by 2 degrees

Sabian:
Sea Gulls Fly Around A Ship In Expectation Of Food

° Euterpe on 18 Capricorn in 2nd house

opposed by Saturn on 17 Cancer in 8th house

Sabian:

A Five-Year-Old Child Carrying A Bag Filled With Groceries

° Echo on 27 Capricorn conjunct Anubis on 28 Cap and sextiles Valentine on 27 SCorpio exact

Sabian
A Large Aviary

° Orpheus on 10 Aquarius conjunct Pallas exact, and is thus part on my minor talent triangle of:

Orpheus/ Pallas on 10 and 9 Aquarius
Pluto on 9 Libra
Neptune on 9 Sag
NN on 10 Sag
Atlantis on 8 Sag

(maybe even the ASC on 7 Sag applies)

° Melpomene on 10 Pisces is exactly between and conjunct Ceres on 9 Pisces and Jupiter on 11 Pisces in 3rd house (which seems oddly fitting)

of course it is also squaring the NN-Neptune-conjunction in my 1st house, and is ALSO exactly trine Tyche on 10 Scorpio

Sabian:
Men Traveling A Narrow Path, Seeking Illumination

° Sirene on 8 Aries, exactly conj. Alice on 8 Aries, also conjuncts Tone and Giza on 10 Aries, conjuncts Magion on 6 Aries

opposes Pluto on 9 Libra

trines ASC-Angel-Lust-Wisdom-Atlantis-Neptune-NN in 1st house in Sag

Sabian:
A Crystal Gazer

° Partenope is on 6 Taurus in 5th house

conjunct Part of Marriage/ Eros/Psyche-mp Actor and Lucifer on 7 Taurus

trines Venus on 6 Capricorn

trines Lilith on 6 Virgo and Hekate on 8 Virgo

sextile Ishtar-Horus on 8 Pisces and Pholus on 6 Pisces

(I am mentioning this, cause it plucks into that Kite formation Ihave, with some asteroids)

quinkunx my ASC and Polyhymnia apparently

Sabian:
The Woman Of Samaria At The Ancestral Well

posted November 21, 2013 02:40 PM              

° Tone on 10 Aquarius, right on his 12th house cusp

sextile his Mercury-Musa-conjunction in Sag ( 9th house exactly

square Chiron in Taurs in 1st

trine Echo-Isis in GEmini in 3rd
trine Sirene in Libra in 7tth

Sabian:
During A Silent Hour, A Man Receives A New Inspiration Which May Change His Life

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Euterpe on 22 Gemini in 3rd
trine Pluto-Loreley

Sabian:
Three Fledglings In A Nest High In A Tree

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Parthenope on 20 Virgo in 6zh
squares Neptune exact

Sabian
A Girls' Basketball Team LOL

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Sirene on 11 Libra in 7th
trine Tone
trine Echo

Sabian
Miners Are Surfacing From A Deep Coal Mine

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Melpomene conjunct Spirt on 19 Libra exact
Pluto 21 Libra
Anteors 22 Libra
Loreley 23 Libra

(am I to split up these? No I don`t think so. lol)

Melpomene/ Spirit:
A Rabbi Performing His Duties

Loreley
A Butterfly With A Third Wing On Its Left Side

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ERato on 26 Scorpio in 8th house

trine ASC exact
sextile Saturn exact
sextile Venus exact

wide conjunction to 12th house ruler Uranus on 23 Scorpio

Sabian for Erato
A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets

Yeah, well I guess he can be rather noisy at times.

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Polyhymnia on 16 Sag in 9th house

An Easter Sunrise Service Draws A Large Crowd

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Orpheus on 8 Cap in 10th

trine Chiron in Taurus in 1st exact
quinkunx Echo-Isis in Gemini in 3rd exact
sextile Eros in Pisces in 12th exact
trines Amor-jupiter-Mars in Virgo in 6th (though the ORpheus - Mars is a bit over 2 degrees: 2°08)

Sabian:
An Angel Carrying A Harp
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So he has these Grand trines:

AIR:

Echo - Isis on 9 Gemini in 3rd
(An Airplane Performing A Nose Dive)

Sirene on 11 LIbra in 7th
(Miners Are Surfacing From A Deep Coal Mine)

Tone-12th cusp on 10 Aqua in 12th
(During A Silent Hour, A Man Receives A New Inspiration Which May Change His Life)

EARTH:

Orpheus on 8 Cap in 10th
(An angel carrying a harp)

Chiron on 9 Taurus in 1st
(A Red Cross Nurse)

Amor on 9 Virgo in 6th
Two Heads Looking Out And Beyond The Shadows

Jupiter on 10 Virgo
In Her Baby A Mother Sees Her Deep Longing For A Son Answered

Mars on 11 Virego
After The Wedding, The Groom Snatches The Veil Away From His Bride

(Jupiter rules his MC, Mars rules his intercepted 1st house)

WATER

Erato on 6 Scorpio in 8th
A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets

ASC on either 25 or 26 PIsces

Juno on 27 Cancer in 5th house
An Indian Girl Introduces Her White Lover To Her Assembled Tribe

posted November 21, 2013 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Reverie:
Wow,great post ail! I never new that about Destinn and Karma. What about the asteroids

(1009) Sirene
(11) Parthenope

Named after the sirens in greek mythology. The sirens where monsters who lived on an island that used there beautiful enchanting voices to lure nearby sailors to their deaths. I don't know what these asteroids mean but maybe they represent singing ability or an interest in singing in the chart.

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LOL....i never thought of Siren as indication of being a good singer!
Siren is conjunct my Venus exact, and im sure if i were to sing to a guy....hed be running away, far far away....well i can yoddle really well.....dont ask me how i know that! LOL

posted November 21, 2013 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I always have these maneaters on my angles or personal planets. Sirene opp my moon and parthenope conjunct my venus lol. Oh wait lorely 25 Leo conjunct Casanova and venusia.

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LOL....isnt it great!!

posted November 22, 2013 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
LOL....isnt it great!!

My Loke and Messalina(?sp?) are right on my venus to, Ate and Nymph sit on my DC...Argh!
We cant be that bad, can we?

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posted November 23, 2013 07:53 PM            

I have Euterpe in Taurus, 4th House (could mean my desire to have a musical home).

Euterpe trines Mars in Capricorn, 12th House. I always say that singing is spiritually enriching, and that suggestion is apparent.

Sextile in Jupiter Retrograde in Pisces (2nd House). Internal expansion and suggesting income from music and singing?

Melpomene is in Virgo, 8th House with my sun and Mercury. They are not conjunct. I write lyrics that are socially and politically charged to expose taboos.

Orpheus and the asteroids concerning Sirens (Sirene, Loreley) are all conjunct at Sagittarius, 11th House. I also have Uranus in that house too. I am into progressive social causes and avant-garde acts. Yet, I don't like the feeling that my singing will cause men some doom (Lol.). All three also trines my True Node in Aries, 3rd House.

Tone and Echo are retrograde in my 2nd House Pisces, with my Moon and Jupiter. Tone conjuncts the Moon (not retrograde).

With house placements in mind, the heaviest houses with the singing asteroids are in the 2nd House Pisces, 11th House Sagittarius, and possibly 12th in Capricorn.

More analyses to come later.