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Topic: Astrology's Asteroid "Couples"
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 04:07 PM
Apollo ran after Daphne, she also preferred to be turned into a tree instead of be with him! The one you mentioned, Keela " Pan hankered after Syrinx but she rather turned into a reed than dealt with him, but he did make the pan-pipes out of her later then." These would be good for unreciprocated love... IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 04:27 PM
Jot Perseus (?) and Thetis down for some of that as well then, if those were the two I'm thinking of. Even though they married, he still couldn't keep her and she went her own way in any case. Ah, no, sorry, Andromeda was Perseus' love. Peleus was married to Antigone, but it ended tragically with her death due to someone else's jealousy. Then he the mortal wins over the nereid Thetis with a tip from Proteus, and the two have kids including Achilles, and provide the backdrop for the whole Trojan war story with the infamous wedding with the golden apple from Eris the Uninvited. It's a marriage that starts with her far higher up than him, and where she sooner or later leaves as said. Though she consented to marrying him, it wasn't enough. He's not entirely rejected, but you get the picture. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 03:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Reverie: More CouplesNot Sure Mars Bellona(28) Tithonus(6998)Aurora(94)/Eos(221) Don Quixote(3552)Dulcinea(571)
quote: Originally posted by Keela: Oh gods, I saw you didn't list Marc Antony for Kleopatra. Marc, Marcustacitus (I know it's different, but Marcusaurelius doesn't work and is a better known different person, and those two are the only actual Marcus-names on the list), Antonia, Antonini. There needs to be a separate post about all the different Marcuses and people checking which check the most consistently, but if Thora is for Thor and many other female versions of names were used in the early days of asteroid naming, Antonia would pass for Antony fine. That is, I just 1-2 nights ago discovered a major cross-pattern between all those in one synastry case, so want to believe that all may apply. Need more corroboration, of course, but for tentative options of the one she blazed the world with, Marc Antony should be there. He was also married to Fulvia (third wife, politically savvy fantastic woman of her own) before running off with Kleopsy there, so if people want more married couples running off with bigger flames, Fulvia & co. are there as well. Huge pattern, trust me. I think he had a fourth wife when he was actually with Kleopatra, #4 taking care of his children later, something like that, but I forget her name or how all that went. Not a love figure like Kleopatra in any case. 71445 Marc 12580 Antonini, 272 Antonia 609 Fulvia 1387 Kama
I didnt know what to do with these? I need more explanation! Please tell me how they need to be listed, im not at familiar with them! Sorry
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 07:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I didnt know what to do with these? I need more explanation! Please tell me how they need to be listed, im not at familiar with them! Sorry
Surely you've read or heard about Kleopatra and Marc Antony's love story in some form somewhere down the line? They're majorly for the positive side (ending in death doesn't mean the love contact isn't there, whatever its level). I'd say Marc Antony and Fulvia are on the positive side as well based on what I've read, although more from a "Good or working marriage, not necessarily the biggest love of your life style stuff" POV. Political style match perhaps more so, a power couple. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulvia Cicero's out to blacken their name due to past grudges and more, so read the following with that in mind. I fail to see how delivering love letters in person matches with supposedly marrying only for money, but as said, unreliable source. A couple that were definitely it before Antony fell for Kleopatra. "Fulvia's third and final marriage was to Mark Antony in 47 or 46 BC, a few years after Curio's death, although Cicero suggested that Fulvia and Antony had had a relationship since 58 BC. Cicero wrote about their relationship in his Philippics as a way of attacking Antony. According to him, while Fulvia and Antony were married, Antony once left a military post to sneak back into Rome during the night and personally deliver a love letter to Fulvia describing his love for her and how he had stopped seeing the famous actress Cytheris. Cicero also suggested that Antony married Fulvia for her money. At the time of their marriage, Antony was an established politician. ... As a couple, they were a formidable political force in Rome, and had two sons together..." "first Roman non-mythological woman to appear on Roman coins" as well I see. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002183-2.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000227.html for talk of Dulcinea and Don Quijote. Idealistic or idealizing love. Oh, and Caesar was also married to Calpurnia, if you want more pairs. He still went for Kleopatra in any case. 2542 Calpurnia
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 29, 2013 03:57 PM
Thank you Keela, id never read about them, but ill get them added! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 03, 2014 11:30 PM
Bump...
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summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 04, 2014 12:25 AM
Peleus and ThetisThetis # 17 a beautiful sea nymph. When a human Peleus # 11311 saw her he became infatuated. Zeus and his brother Poseidon made arrangements for her marriage to Peleus, but she refused Peleus. Zeus then advised Peleus to find her when she was asleep and bind her tightly to keep her from escaping by changing forms. She did shift shapes, becoming flame, water, a raging lioness, and a serpent, but Peleus held fast. Subdued, she then consented to marry him. However, years later, she still left him and never came back. (in a man’s chart, a woman that will never be his even if he marries her?) IP: Logged |
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posted January 04, 2014 09:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Keela: Oh gods, I saw you didn't list Marc Antony for Kleopatra. Prepare to wade through options that I think may ALL work. ;P Marc, Marcustacitus (I know it's different, but Marcusaurelius doesn't work and is a better known different person, and those two are the only actual Marcus-names on the list), Antonia, Antonini. There needs to be a separate post about all the different Marcuses and people checking which check the most consistently, but if Thora is for Thor and many other female versions of names were used in the early days of asteroid naming, Antonia would pass for Antony fine. That is, I just 1-2 nights ago discovered a major cross-pattern between all those in one synastry case, so want to believe that all may apply. Need more corroboration, of course, but for tentative options of the one she blazed the world with, Marc Antony should be there. He was also married to Fulvia (third wife, politically savvy fantastic woman of her own) before running off with Kleopsy there, so if people want more married couples running off with bigger flames, Fulvia & co. are there as well. Huge pattern, trust me. I think he had a fourth wife when he was actually with Kleopatra, #4 taking care of his children later, something like that, but I forget her name or how all that went. Not a love figure like Kleopatra in any case. 71445 Marc 12580 Antonini, 272 Antonia 609 Fulvia 1387 Kama
Tried it out with a chart:
his ANTONIA on 25 Sag conjunct my Sun-CAESAR-KLEOPATRA
his FULVIA and his Saturn conjunct my KARMA in 7th house xact (my KLEOPATRA is conjunct his KARMA in 1st house btw). his CAESAR on 25 Aries trine my Sun-CAESAR-KLEOPATRA composite: FULVIA on 29 Leo (Regulus) opposite ANTONIA on 00 Pisces With Mr Sag: --------------
his MARC conj. his own KARMA, right on my MC and quinkunx my MARC and ANTONIA his ANTONINI trine my KLEOPATRA exact (22 Leo - Sagittarius)
his ANTONIA conjunct my KARMA by 1 degree his FULVIA square my SAturn and trine my Moon his CAESAR on 27 Aries trine my Sun and CAESAR his KLEOPATRA trine my MARC by 1 degree composite: -------------
CAESAR square ANTONIA exact MARC opposite Moon exact KLEOPATRA on 1 Cap trine ANTONINI on 1 Virgo with FULVIA on 0 Scorpio We met when there was a transiting Moon-Pluto-coinjunction on 0-1 Cap and Transiting Saturn on 2 Virgo (his natal NN is on 1 Virgo, too, and his ntal Moon on 28 Sag, my Vesta on 1 Cap, and my Uranus on 1 Scorpio).
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PlutoFish Knowflake Posts: 1963 From: Sumeria Registered: Sep 2013
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posted January 04, 2014 10:21 AM
Add some of these as you probably just nulled my list Cruinthe - Earths second Moon, connection to roots in Earth. (3753) Karma - Fated. (3811) Atlantis - Connection to Atlantis. (1198) Horus - Divine child within, Sun and Moon. (1924) Christian - Symbol of pure belief and holyness (Christ) (192158) Giza - Represents where in our chart we can access the most ancient storehouse of wisdom. It also represents our specific initial attitude to the pyramids of Giza in this lifeline. (5249) Nymph - Sexy imp energy. (875) DNA - (55555) Arachne - Master of weaving. (407) Spirit - (37452) Hypnos - God of Sleep. (14827) Psyche - Trials of love. (16) Child - Child. (4580) Wisdom - (3402) Samadhi - Spritual enligtenment. (12472) Sekhmet - Egyptian goddess of War. (5381) Anubis - Guardian of the passage to the underworld. (Sirus) - (1912) Astrowiz - (24626) Discovery - (9770) Utopia - (1282) Aura - (1488) Hekate - 100 Angel - (1191) Destiny - (6583) Telephus (5264) Talent (33154) Philosophia (227) Plato - Greek. (5451) Compassion (8990) Gold (4955) Silver (5325) King (2305) Queen (5457) Paradise (2791) Camelot (9500) Merlin (2598) Excalibur (9499) Atropos (273) Reiki - Chi energies. (5239) Dionysus (3671) Sphinx (896) Imhotep (1813) Amenhotep (4847) Nefeirit (3199) Lucifer (1930) Iris (7) Asbolus (8405) Bienor (54598) Elatus (31824) Hylonome (10370) Okyrhoe (52872) Pelion (49036) Thereus (32532) ------------------ 13 Sign astrologer ☾ ♐ IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 04, 2014 04:57 PM
^those are not even couples.IP: Logged |
Astro keen unregistered
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posted January 05, 2014 09:31 AM
Yes, this list is for asteroid couples only - which has become very long as it is. There are other exhaustive lists on LL, e.g., asteroids by theme.IP: Logged |
PlutoFish Knowflake Posts: 1963 From: Sumeria Registered: Sep 2013
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posted January 05, 2014 04:25 PM
Neither are the ones at the bottom of the list.It would be best to have one link for all useful asteroids would it not? ------------------ 13 Sign astrologer ☾ ♐ IP: Logged |
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posted January 05, 2014 04:43 PM
Nope. As I pointed out, there are already a variety of very lengthy lists on LL which get lost as this too will. Then the words 'asteroid couples' thru the search engine will bring this to the fore. Best to search for what you need. Anyhow an exhaustive list of every asteroid is already available on astro.ocm. Some 17000 plus. IP: Logged |
Reverie Newflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 09, 2014 11:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I didnt know what to do with these? I need more explanation! Please tell me how they need to be listed, im not at familiar with them! Sorry
Bellona is the Roman Goddess of War, closely associated with Mars, the Roman God of War. She is invariably His companion, although She can be called His wife, daughter, sister, or charioteer. Bellona is usually shown in a plumed helmet and armor, armed with a sword and spear and carrying a shield; sometimes She carries a torch with a blood-red flame. She is described as loud and active, barking orders or war-cries, Her weapons clanging as She runs. She is credited with inspiring violence, starting wars, and goading soldiers into battle; Virgil described Her as carrying a bloodstained scourge or whip. She was believed to make wars and battles go well for those who invoked Her. Her name comes from the Latin word for war, (bellum) and is directly related to the modern English words "belligerent" (lit., "war-waging"), "bellicose" and "antebellum". In earlier times she was called Duellona, the name being derived from a more ancient word for "battle". She is identified as the Greek goddess Enyo, and seems to be similar to Eris. More Couples Cadmus(7092)- Harmonia(40) Odysseuss(1143)/Ulysses(5254) - Penelope(201) * I'm not sure if these next asteroid pairs count as actual "couples" but they did end up being together for a short time and ended up having children together. Zeus(5731) - Mnemosyne(57) Mnemosyne - The personification of memory and mother of the Muses. Zeus(5731)- Themis(24) Themis - The embodiment of divine order, law, and custom. With Zeus she gave birth to the goddess Astraea, the hours and the fates. Zeus(5731)- Demeter(1108) Persephone is their daughter. Dionysus(3671)- Aphrodite(1388) Aphrodite once had a short affair with Dionysus the god of wine and ecstasy and became pregnant. Hera, disgusted by Aphrodite's promiscuous and freeways cursed their child Priapus.She made the boy incredibly ugly, deformed and endowed him with gigantic genitals. *Depending on different variations of the myth some say that Zeus or Hermes was the father of Priapus. Hermes(69230)- Ahprodite(1388) When Aphrodite turned down his advances, Hermes sought the help of Zeus. The king of gods dispatched an eagle to steal one of Aphrodite's sandals while she bathed in a nearby river. To retrieve it, the goddess was forced to submit to Hermes. She ended up giving birth to Hermaphroditus. Apollo(1862)- Kalliope(22) Gave birth to Orpheus in different variations of the myth. Negative Couples Apollo(1862)- Kassandra(114) Apollo(1862) - Koronis(158) In Greek mythology, there is a tale of Apollo who fell in love with Coronis, a Thessalian princess of unsurpassed beauty. He commanded his divine messenger, the white raven, to guard Coronis. Though Coronis was pregnant with Apollo’s child, she strangely did not care for her divine lover, but gave in to the advances of a mere mortal, Prince Ischys. She did not consider that Apollo, The God of Truth, could never be deceived. When the raven brought news to Apollo of his lover’s infidelity, he became enraged that his faithful messenger had not pecked out the eyes of the prince. Apollo flung a curse so furious, the raven’s pure white feathers were scorched black. Apollo killed Ischys and sent his sister, Artemis, to slay Coronis with her deadly arrows (other accounts indicate Apollo killed Coronis himself). In spite of his ruthlessness, Apollo felt a pang of grief as he watched Coronis be placed on the pyre and the flames roar up. At the last moment, he removed his son from the womb. Apollo gave his newborn son, Asclepius, to the wise centaur, Chiron, who taught him the art of healing herbs. Bonding Asteroid Tape(12158)-someone that sticks to you? Possibly Bad Wild(1941) and Wildcat(17493) Maybe these asteroids represent someone who's wild and cannot be tamed, doesn't like to settle down or be controlled in anyway.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 13, 2014 07:27 PM
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Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 797 From: Melinoe Castle, Proserpine Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 29, 2014 03:04 PM
Adding to the Greek Couples, I remembered 2212 Hephaistos and 44 Aglaja(Aglaia). Upon divorcing Aphrodite, he took as his wife Aglaia, one of the Charites, whom he had four daughters with.------------------ L'amour d'Aphrodite et un choc de beauté~ IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 29, 2014 03:56 PM
Thank you Reverie, those are great additions!Thank you SailorGemini, i really appreciate all the help. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 29, 2014 06:44 PM
Unrequited Love- Lotis (429) Ran from Priapus's advances, and was changed into a Lotus tree to escape him. Phaedra(174)and Hippolyta(10295) Sappho(80)-Phaon (Phaeo-322) Peleus(11311)-Thetis(17) Apollo-Daphne Apollo ran after Daphne, she also preferred to be turned into a tree instead of be with him. Pan-Syrinx " Pan hankered after Syrinx but she rather turned into a reed than dealt with him, but he did make the pan-pipes out of her later then."429, 174, 10295, 322,11311,17 Rape- Sabine(665)-Romulus(10386) Sabine women kidnapped and raped by Romulus/Remus in order to steal their land. Tamara(326)killed her lovers when she tired of them. Taguacipa(2739) turns good ppl into bad ppl. ----- Good-- Acamus(2594-Laodica(507) Agamemnon(911)-Klytaemnestra(179) Vinata(2347)-Sage(Saga-1163) Lada(2832) Slavic goddess of marriage and family happiness Taihaku(4407)Japenese "Venus" Kypria(669) Surname of Aphrodite, referring to her sacred place of Cyprus. Kythera(570) the island where Aphrodite may have floated when she rose from the foam. Vanadis(240)version of Goddess Freia IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 29, 2014 08:30 PM
Plutofish, Cruinthe - Earths second Moon, connection to roots in Earth. (3753) The near-Earth asteroid 3753 Cruithne is now known to be a companion, and an unusual one, of the Earth. This asteroid shares the Earth's orbit, its motion "choreographed" in such a way as to remain stable and avoid colliding with our planet. Ive never heard of this at all....i love it thank you! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 30, 2014 02:39 PM
41 Chloe 402 DaphneDaphnis and Chloe is the story of a boy (Daphnis) and a girl (Chloe), each of whom is exposed at birth along with some identifying tokens. A goatherd named Lamon discovers Daphnis, and a shepherd called Dryas finds Chloe. Each decides to raise the child he finds as his own. Daphnis and Chloe grow up together, herding the flocks for their foster parents. They fall in love but, being naive, do not understand what is happening to them. Philetas, a wise old cowherd, explains to them what love is and tells them that the only cure is "kissing."[2] They do this. Eventually, Lycaenion, a woman from the city, educates Daphnis in love-making. Daphnis, however, decides not to test his newly acquired skill on Chloe, because Lycaenion tells Daphnis that Chloe "will scream and cry and lie bleeding heavily [as if murdered]." Throughout the book, Chloe is courted by suitors, two of whom (Dorcon and Lampis) attempt with varying degrees of success to abduct her. She is also carried off by raiders from a nearby city and saved by the intervention of the god Pan. Meanwhile, Daphnis falls into a pit, gets beaten up, is abducted by pirates, and is very nearly raped. In the end, Daphnis and Chloe are recognized by their birth parents, get married, and live out their lives in the country. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 30, 2014 02:41 PM
Sabrina-John (4160) Sabrina (2264) Johnen (8581)Sweethearts Sabrina Gonsalves and John Riggins, both 18, were killed in 1980; she had been sexually assaulted and he had tried to save her For decades, investigators struggled to solve the case But DNA technology meant that semen found in their van could eventually be checked with DNA from prisoners - and a match was found In Nov 12, 2012, nearly 32 years after the deaths, convicted rapist Richard Hirschfield was sentenced to death for their grisly murders The families of a young teenage couple who were brutally killed and dumped in a ravine in 1980 have spoken out about their relief that the killer has finally been convicted after 32 years. The murder of Sabrina Gonsalves and John Riggins, both 18, in Davis, California remained unsolved for decades until a DNA breakthrough helped track down their killer, Richard Hirschfield.
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posted June 21, 2014 09:00 AM
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4148 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 21, 2014 01:58 PM
Anyone knows the story for Chiron-Chariklo(10199)??IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 04:14 PM
206 Herselia 10386 RomulusHERSILIA Roman Courage Goddess Goddess of Courage Mediator in the Sabine v. Roman war. Formerly the spouse of ROMULUS, she was fire-bolted by JUPITER in one of his tetchy moments. This earned her a place in Heaven as Hora Quinini and she was looked up to by young Romans as a promoter of courage; associated with Halley’s Comet.
Hersilia - Hersilia was the wife of Romulus. The principal source for her is Livy:
"While the Romans were winning and exploiting victories elsewhere, the army of the Antemnates, taking advantage of their absence, made a hostile incursion into the Roman territories. A Roman legion marched out in haste and surprised the Antemnates, while they were still straggling through the fields. Accordingly, the enemy were routed at the very first shout and charge: their town taken. Romulus returned, exulting for this double victory, when his consort, Hersilia, importuned by the entreaties of the captured women, beseeched him "to pardon their fathers, and to admit them to the privilege of citizens; that thus his power might be strengthened by a reconciliation." Her request was readily granted." Just like her husband (who became the god Quirinus), she was deified after her death as Hora.
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Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 797 From: Melinoe Castle, Proserpine Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 09, 2014 10:06 PM
Someone should put this (or a list like this) in the reference library.------------------ -La Sorcière du Temps IP: Logged | |