posted February 07, 2014 09:04 AM            

if you have time and are in the mood -
could you tell me something about the most intriguing connection between Isis/Osiris and the fixed stars Sirius/Orion (though Orion is really a constellation I know)?

posted February 07, 2014 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Iris "spoke" to you too?

(we probably sound crazy)

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Yeah, we probably do. lol

"Iris" always spoke to me somehow (and I DO love the song as well. lol).
However I saw that book (it was on my recomendation list some day) on amazon, and just felt that tingle. You sometimes just KNOW something contains something for you. Of course I do not know yet what it might be. lol

But are we talking about the same book?
Which "Iris" did speak to you?

EDIT:
It is almost funny:

Tr Iris is on 6.51 Aries conjunct Tr Osiris on 5.48 Aries, and Tr Isis is on 5.47 Taurus.

It is important for me because my IC-Aura-Gaia are all on 5 Aries;

But more importantly maybe ALMA (Soul) is on 6.44 Aries, and MAGION is on 6.55 Aries

my own IRIS is on 27 Libra, same degree as my Adonis and conjunct my Union by 2 degrees.

posted February 07, 2014 09:29 AM            

Iris actually linked me back to the Egyptian asteroids Isis, Osiris, Horus, Sirius.

So you better be reading that book.

posted February 07, 2014 10:03 AM            

I also found the reference to Isis, Osiris, and Egypt; previously I only knew of her as the rainbow goddess, the messenger, but that she was prominent in Egypt - well it makes sense I suppose.

In my chart Iris is on 27 Libra (same degree as adonis) and conjunct Union, as I mentioned in the post above. Also Draco Iris is partile conjunct my Moon on 17 Aquarius.

EDIT:

I have some kind of party going on there on 27 degrees

Adonis: 27.13 Libra
Ramses: 27.24 Libra
Iris: 27.41 Libra
(Apollo: 26.51 Libra
Tuthmosis: 26.32 Libra)

Nefertiti: 27.58 Aquarius

Sekhmet: 27.27 Sag
Reiki: 27.35 Sag
Circe: 27.37 Sag

posted February 07, 2014 12:52 PM            

I actually have Anubis at 27 Libra. Maybe I'm here to help you?

I can't figure out Tr Iris is doing for me. It's touching your IC, it must be really important that you stumble upon the book at the same time.

posted February 07, 2014 01:13 PM            

And about Anubis, yes, he is the guide.
Actualy both our Anubis are square each other (mine is on 28 Capricorn).

I did not know about the Angel-NN-transit. But It makes sense, in my natal Angel is exactly conjunct my ASC on 7 Sag, and more widely connected to my Neptune and NN by 2-3 degrees, oh and Atlantis by one degree.

Isn`t the nodal axis heading towards LIbra?

As for the book, I started reading, and just on the first page the protagonist mentioned being a "textbook Sagittarian" when she described her cluttered workspace, and well I have to admit, it is true. I actually startd to clear out mine a bit just this afternoon. It is futile though, I am a hopeless case!

She was also having a past life recall, including her as an Egypt woman and a Roman soldier (it has always been a strong interconnection for me, maybe cause I read the Metamorphoses by Aupuleius at university in Latin. I was doing a paper on the story about Amor and Psyche - I was coverng the Amor-part, my best friend did the psyche-part-, and this story was embedded in a frame chapter of the protagonist awaiting his initiation into the Isis-cult. Maybe that is why for me the Roman empire is so closely associated with Egypt).

Anyway reading that fictiional past life recall, as much as it just scratched the surface, felt like (re)opening a door to an abyss into my soul. A nameless endless melancholy and sadness.

Well, I do believe in past lives, and I also believe I was having one in Ancient Egypt, and the astrology seems to confirm that it was a very significant one. But from all possible past life lines the Egypt one is one that is "sealed", shut off from my consciousness or even vague memory or imagination.
But what it lacks in terms of conscious memories or even just hunches, it makes up in intensely feeling.
It is hard to describe.
I can`t quite grasp or see that past life, but I feel it acutely, to the point that I sometimes suspect it might unknowingly still overshadow my present life.

Of course that is just if past lives do exist, as I believe. If not, it is still significant though, cause it might have something to do with psychological processes, that apparently are expressed in archetypes.

Sorry for the babbling.

posted February 07, 2014 03:01 PM            

Yes, City of Angels. I used the angel's NAME asteroid Seth and one of it conjuncts my natal Angel asteroid. I tried it on other charts too and it conjuncts something.

21709 Sethmurray
- Probably means a fallen angel or where you are willing to sacrifice and give up immortality.

I read the first chapter of the book. I think it'll point you in the right direction. I want to read it but can't buy it. You'll have to summarise and tell me the ending.

posted February 07, 2014 03:10 PM            

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if you have time and are in the mood -
could you tell me something about the most intriguing connection between Isis/Osiris and the fixed stars Sirius/Orion (though Orion is really a constellation I know)?

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Most intriguing & excellent question and I will be peeking in on IQ`s reply.

posted February 08, 2014 07:31 AM            

That is interesting and makes sense given the story line. I checked it and in my chart it falls onto 1.42 Capricorn, conjunct:

Vesta: 1.22 Cap
Stonehenge: 1.59 Cap
Eva: 1.51 Cap
Knight: 1.54 Cap

I treat these as an unit as they are on the same degree, a rather violent degree btw.
Sabian is this:

"Three Rose Windows In A Gothic Church, One Damaged By War"

But it is also in orb for conjunct:

Boda: 3.39 Cap
Tristan: 3.43 Cap
Chaldaea: 4.23 Cap

and
Gilgamesh: 0.43 Cap

Interesting my 1-Cap-asteroid batch was sextile the transiting Angel/NN exact yesterday, while I used to not pay so much attention to the sextile, I nowadays take a note of all partile aspects. There seems to be a strong resonance of objects on the same degree, even if not in conjunction (though conjunction of cours is a very unique case).

"I read the first chapter of the book. I think it'll point you in the right direction. I want to read it but can't buy it. You'll have to summarise and tell me the ending. "
I better not.
lol
Well not as I expected it, but I admire the author for the audacity to NOT go for a happy end. lol

"Are you stuck between 2 guys like in the book? Maybe that's why you found the book."
While technically I shouldn`t be and are not in terms of real relationship, my heart is a different matter. I noticed there always seem to be two guys wrestling for my attention.
I suspect a deeper psychological reason for me might be not to get emotionally involveId too deeply with only one other soul, as I do remember quite well, how it feels like your soul is ripped from you when you do and have to realize it was all Maya, illusion.
Dividing attention or affection onto at least two men is a sure shot way to not go through that experience again.

On the other hand though, maybe this sounds crazy, but more as to looks of a person I always related to their "energetic imprint",or the whole package of their manifestation on earth, with everything, how they look, talk, walk, smile and also this very unique energetic radiation everyone has.
Actually it is only that I can vividly remember a person when I connect to that energetic imprint they have left in my mind or soul, when I had seen them or been close to them (in some rare cases that extends even to actors, which often makes me feel like they "linger" around me long after I switched off TV - I suppose it is just that "energy" of them I picked up somehow, maybe I had receptors for it, I donīt know, how my spirit picks whom to have "linger" on).

Anyway, certain energetic imprints or however I want to call it, rouse a lot of affectionate feelings in me, which differ in the nature of these feelings, but not necessarily in intensity.
This might come into play, too.

Well, my Neptune is on the ASC - sometimes I really feel like a sponge. lol

Anyway, there were some sentences in the book that resonated with me, one being told the protagonist that she has been given two choices, two paths to pick in each life. One of loyalty, one of love. And she always picked the one of loyalty. It did not sound quite right, but anyway.

It also vividly brought back this feeling/ sense of being entombed alive with the man I loved in a past life. Well even though I know the story line of Aida is a fictional one, it just hits too close to home. As a matter of fact when I actually saw it last year on stage, and especially the scene when they are entombed together, and during the long stanza Aida sang, her co-star (what is it with me and actors?) was keeping his face turned away from her and instead locked eyes with me, for all eternity it seemed, and at a certain point it was almost like I was close to passing out, the air was drained of oxygene, I was slowly suffocating, and at the same time sensing a weird fragrance, incense very strongly. I later asked the others, but noone smelled anything, it was just my hallucination. lol
Well, after a few minutes I did eventually snap out of it. But this was a little too intense.
Maybe I am simply overimaginative, but if I am my imagination clearly affects my sensory perception too.

I donīt know why these things always happen in relation to this particular man. He doesnT even strike me as overly spiritual. But the effect is, well, almost creepy. lol

Well, even though the book certainly was lacking in some respects, I was having very interesting dream last night, though not having remotely to do with Egypt. lol

BTW yesterday when visiting my parents, my Dad actually had spontaneously created art out of a piece of wood. Something he had never done before (but I remember many years ago he was fascinated with the art he saw in a documentary about possible Atlantis; he personaly does not remember that documentary, but I did, cause he was staring at these scenes in the documentary and describing the process of making this kind of art better than the journalist. lol).

Anyway, so yesterday he suddenly felt the urge to carve something out of that cherry-wood. The name of his art? "Angel". LOL

He plans on doing one with the title "Cobra", too. Do not even ask me why cobra all at once. lol

BTW my DAd`s Moon is on 1 Taurus, so the Angel/NN-conjunction was opposing this.

posted February 08, 2014 07:31 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Ceri,
Most intriguing & excellent question and I will be peeking in on IQ`s reply.

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posted February 08, 2014 03:12 PM            

oh ceridwen. I have so much in my head I don't know where to start.

I have Nep cjt Asc too. I know that feeling. Sometimes I just watch a scene, or a play and then my mind will get zapped and it feels like I'm in that "scene".

I read up on "aida". It speaks of forbidden love to me. I'm starting to think if a recurring theme keeps appealing to you, maybe it is a part of you in some way.

I'm torn between 2 charts, wondering which is the actual "potential TF". Maybe that's why I picked up on the storyline of the book you are reading. I actually did lexigrams for their names. One of the words form is "Loyal". You spoke of picking loyalty. Maybe you have given me the answer.

Your Dad's part. Maybe angels are doing their magic. Speaking of Atlantis, I actually read something about the author while googling her yesterday. She actually said she found Atlantis fascinating. It manifested in the form of her book I guess.

posted February 08, 2014 05:07 PM            

"ometimes I just watch a scene, or a play and then my mind will get zapped and it feels like I'm in that "scene"."
Yes, exactly.
I wonder if all Neptune-ASC`s feel that way.

"It speaks of forbidden love to me."
It was.

You know what struck me after seeing the musical, and connecting the dots?
How for a long time I would only see him open air, open space, free air to breathe. LOL
I supose it is a coincidence, but boy, doesn`t it make sense?

Also if the 12th house is indicative of past life, my 12th house cusp is on 21 Scorpio and his 12th house ruler Uranus is on 23 Scorpio conjunct, with his Valentine conjunct fromt he other side, from 19 Scorpio.
My own Valentine is in Scorpio, too, in 12th house naturally, 27 Scorpio conjunct Mesopotamia.

Actually my 12th house cusp/ his 12th house ruler is conjunct our share composite triple conjunction of Angel-Valentine-Lust on 22 and 23 Scorpio.

though I usually do not take other aspects than conjunctions to housecusps into consideration, I cannot help noticing my 12th house ruler Pluto is trine his 12th house cusp exact.

" I'm starting to think if a recurring theme keeps appealing to you, maybe it is a part of you in some way."

I asked IQ about it last year, and he said that the story is archetypical.
He also added that given my history with this storyline and my strong feelings, it is a past life memory.
Actually I think so, too. I mean the story is not that extraordinary. It probably has happened in ancient times.

"I'm torn between 2 charts, wondering which is the actual "potential TF"."
What are the special and unique features of each horoscope?

"You spoke of picking loyalty."
4Yes, but in the context of the story it had been the wrong choice; or maybe not wrong, but the choice that was leading her away from love and her twinsoul.

"Speaking of Atlantis, I actually read something about the author while googling her yesterday."
Yes, I read that interview twoo.

BTW my Dad has Atlantis conjunct ASC, just like I have. lol

"transit Atlantis is actually conjunct Regulus today. It seems important."
I noticed that, too. Since i am going to have m Spirit-return, ATlantis on Regulus will be part of it, as well.
Coincidentally my Spirit return only is a day after Mr Sags and my composite Venus-Return. lol

posted February 09, 2014 03:27 PM            

I have Nessus cjt Atlantis and Nessus cjt Sphinx with the 2 charts. I wonder if I abused them in past lives. What do you think?

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posted February 09, 2014 05:18 PM            

She was loyal to her pharao-queen and died with her as a loyal servant, instead of eloping with the roman soldier she loved and lived with him somewhere else. Oh man, he wasn`t taking it well!

" I would have thought you would choose loyalty too because you love Arthur asteroid. Or maybe you are secretly rooting for Lancelot."

Actually I root for a combination of Arthur and Lancelot. I want it all.

"I have Nessus cjt Atlantis and Nessus cjt Sphinx with the 2 charts. I wonder if I abused them in past lives. What do you think?"
it is certainly possible that abuse took place. But how i am not sure. Is it tied to 12th houses or Draconic charts somehow?

"I've always wondered about that story. Do you have any meaning for what they mean natally?"
No sorry.

posted February 13, 2014 03:33 AM            

In Linda's "Star Signs" she mentioned two fixed stars labelled by Astronomers as Isis and Osiris forming an aspect after thousands of years [Correct me if I am wrong].
This was a Sign to her about our generation awakening more and more to the concept of Soul Mates and Twin Flame.

Thus, if we connect Sirius and Orion to the Twin Flame Theme of Isis and Osiris, we have the following:
1. Sirius is the brightest Star, the "Light" of a Star in the dark night. Light = Seeking = Isis seeking for the missing parts of Osiris.

2. Orion as a Constellation has 7 major Stars and 2 minor Stars. Though this does not tie in with 13 pieces of Osiris, the 9 Stars of Orion plus Sirius = 10, the Numerological Number of Isis and Osiris.

3. Orion and Osiris are both heroes in Myth.
Ancient Egyptians connected the two. It is possible that the Consciousness of Orion manifested as Osiris.

4. If Isis and Osiris together are the Cosmic Soul, then we have a 12 Zodiac Connection as well. Sirius has two neighbors called Sirius B and Sirius C. 9 of Orion plus 3 = 12.
Thus, Sirius and Orion are one of the symbols of how the Zodiac affects the Undivided Soul.

5. The Pyramids of Giza maps to Orion, but Sirius is said to Symbolize Isis. The Dogon Tribe connected Sirius as the Axis of the Universe, and said that all "Matter" emanates from Sirius. This is a strong tie in to the Vedic Theory of all "Maya" or Illusory Matter produced from "Adi Parasakthi" or First Cause Goddess, which is what Ancient Egyoptians considered Isis. [Shiva being Osiris].

Thus, any geometric interrlay between Sirius and Orion in the sky is a symbol of Cosmological Tantra of Osiris-Isis or Shiva-Shakti. That is what I know so far.

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posted February 13, 2014 12:27 PM            

you have an uncanny sense of timing!

Not only your post was made at 3:33 at my time here (and 33 is my lifepath), but yesterday a book arrived about Nefertiti, I did not even started reading properly, just touched it, and was having quite intense dreams last night. I do not remember their content, just a word reverberating still in my mind when waking up. A name. Akhenaten.

posted February 13, 2014 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Good discussion going on here

In Linda's "Star Signs" she mentioned two fixed stars labelled by Astronomers as Isis and Osiris forming an aspect after thousands of years [Correct me if I am wrong].
This was a Sign to her about our generation awakening more and more to the concept of Soul Mates and Twin Flame.

Thus, if we connect Sirius and Orion to the Twin Flame Theme of Isis and Osiris, we have the following:
1. Sirius is the brightest Star, the "Light" of a Star in the dark night. Light = Seeking = Isis seeking for the missing parts of Osiris.

2. Orion as a Constellation has 7 major Stars and 2 minor Stars. Though this does not tie in with 13 pieces of Osiris, the 9 Stars of Orion plus Sirius = 10, the Numerological Number of Isis and Osiris.

3. Orion and Osiris are both heroes in Myth.
Ancient Egyptians connected the two. It is possible that the Consciousness of Orion manifested as Osiris.

4. If Isis and Osiris together are the Cosmic Soul, then we have a 12 Zodiac Connection as well. Sirius has two neighbors called Sirius B and Sirius C. 9 of Orion plus 3 = 12.
Thus, Sirius and Orion are one of the symbols of how the Zodiac affects the Undivided Soul.

5. The Pyramids of Giza maps to Orion, but Sirius is said to Symbolize Isis. The Dogon Tribe connected Sirius as the Axis of the Universe, and said that all "Matter" emanates from Sirius. This is a strong tie in to the Vedic Theory of all "Maya" or Illusory Matter produced from "Adi Parasakthi" or First Cause Goddess, which is what Ancient Egyoptians considered Isis. [Shiva being Osiris].

Thus, any geometric interrlay between Sirius and Orion in the sky is a symbol of Cosmological Tantra of Osiris-Isis or Shiva-Shakti. That is what I know so far.

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Wow!
I need to let this sink in.

However, or now I found it interesting, that my mind has been some "weeding out" regarding the soulmate couple asteroids over the last days.

And two things kept connecting to each other, even if Itried to mentally keep them apart.

Isis-Osiris and Siva-Parvati (Sati).

I started thinking that while some others like Jupiter-Juno might be important in terms of soulgroups/mates or the quality of a relationship, a THEME, Isis-Osiris and Siva-Parvati (probably with Rudra-Kaali) stand out from these. They are somehow MORE.

(not to mention that I have put together several other things in my mind, or actually they composed itself within my mind, including the heliocentric charts and fixed stars, especially Sirius and Orion).

And now you mentioning the linking of Siva to that egyptian complex, something that has bubbled up to the surface within me as well, without me knowing a good analytical reason for it - well I think you just provided one. Thank you.

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Funny enough, now that I mention numbers. My post here was done on 12:33. Interesting.

posted February 20, 2014 11:44 AM            

ADITI on 21.1 Sag conjunct SIVA on 21.2, and both trine Saturn on 21.5 Leo and sextile the AMOR/CUPIDO/NN-conjunction on 20.4/ 20.3 LIbra.