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Moonfish
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posted March 31, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found that in almost every Synastry chart I looked at, couples have at least one pair from group A, and one pair from group B listed below.

A
Venus-Chiron
Mars-Chiron
Neptune-Chiron

B
Venus-Juno
Mars-Juno
Jupiter-Juno
Saturn-Juno
Chiron-Juno

Celeb Couples:

Barack and Michelle
A Chiron trine Neptune (3)
B Saturn sextile Juno (0)

Beyonce and Jay-Z
A Mars trine Chiron (0)
B Juno opposite Saturn (2)

Angelina and Brad
A Neptune square Chiron (0)
B Saturn trine Juno (0)

Melanie Griffith and Antonio Banderas
A Mars opposite Chiron (0)
A Neptune trine Chiron (0)
B Chiron sextile Juno (3)

Victoria and David Beckham
A Chiron sextile Venus (0)
B Saturn semi-sextile Juno (0)

June and Johnny Cash
A Venus conjunct Chiron (2)
B Chiron sextile Juno (0)
B Juno square Jupiter (2)

Dina and Clint Eastwood
A Venus square Chiron (2)
A Neptune opposite Chiron (1)

Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman
B Jupiter opposite Juno (1)

Michael J. Fox and Tracy Pollan
A Neptune trine Chiron (0)
B Juno trine Mars (0)

Rhea Perlman and Danny
A Venus trine Chiron (3)
A Mars conjunct Chiron (0)
B Venus sextile Juno (0)

Celine Dion and Rene Angélil
A Neptune opposite Chiron (0)
B Venus trine Juno (2)
B Juno square Chiron (2)

Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Broderick
A Mars opposite Chiron (4)
B Mars trine Juno (0)

Faith Hill and Tim McGraw
A Venus quincunx Chiron (1)
B Mars trine Juno (0)
B Saturn trine Juno (0)
B Jupiter sextile Juno (3)

Jada and Will Smith
A Venus opposite Chiron (0)
B Mars square Juno (2)

Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell
A Chiron conjunct Neptune (2)
B Juno opposite Mars (1)

kelly preston and John Travolta
A Venus sextile Chiron (0)
A Chiron conjunct Venus (2)
A Chiron square Mars (2)
B Juno opposite Venus (1)
B Juno square Mars (2)

Sting and Trudie Styler
A Neptune sextile Chiron (1)
A Chiron square Neptune (2)
B Juno conjunct Mars (2)
B Juno trine Chiron (1)

Iman and David Bowie
A Chiron sextile Venus (0)
A Mars square Chiron (2)
B Mars trine Juno (2)
B Jupiter trine Juno (2)
B Juno square Saturn (2)
B Juno conjunct Chiron (2)

Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rossdale
B Juno sextile Chiron (1)

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 31, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing. What about the composites?

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posted March 31, 2014 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting

Mars trine Chiron
Juno square Chiron.

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posted March 31, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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posted March 31, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
I've found that in almost every Synastry chart I looked at, couples have at least one pair from group A, and one pair from group B listed below.

A
Venus-Chiron
Mars-Chiron
Neptune-Chiron

B
Jupiter-Juno
Saturn-Juno
Chiron-Juno

(Edit: Mars-Juno and Venus-Juno have also been spotted a few times.)


Clark Gregg and Jennifer Grey have his Chiron trine her Neptune, her Chiron 2-3 sextile his Venus.
His Juno trine her Saturn by 1 and 1 sesquiquadrate (or whatever the spelling or English name) her Jupiter.
Her Juno semisquare his Saturn and quintile his Chiron.

Then again, apparently I'd have a Venus-Chiron DW, Neptune square Chiron, Chiron novile Mars and Juno inconjunct Jupiter and sesquiquadrate Mars with Gregg as well, so the aspects will show up here and there I guess? I have Chiron 3 sextile her Mars, semisquare her Venus and Juno 1 inconjunct her Jupiter plus Saturn 1 inconjunct her Juno the other way, too. You want to make me a guaranteed pair with both? ;P She's a little short and the wrong sex for me but people are flexible, they can always work something out?


Have you only looked at celebrity couples or "real life" ones as well? People who have kept together or also divorced couples? If you count semisextiles you must also count inconjunctions then it seems, but what about septiles, quintiles, noviles or quindeciles and such?


My parents (divorced after 25-30ish years, but in contact even after that) had at least his Chiron conjunct her Neptune. Her NN-Juno inconjunct his Mars, trine his Jupiter-Juno. So far the aspects show up easily, but based on me having them with both parties of a married couple as well, I'd love to see more pairings and non-pairs compared with these still.

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posted March 31, 2014 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 31, 2014 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
I've found that in almost every Synastry chart I looked at, couples have at least one pair from group [b]A, and one pair from group B listed below.

A
Venus-Chiron
Mars-Chiron
Neptune-Chiron

B
Venus-Juno
Mars-Juno
Jupiter-Juno
Saturn-Juno
Chiron-Juno


We do have:
His Chiron squ. my Sun and Mars (forms t-square and opposite my Sun-Mars Midpoint)
My Chiron qux. his Neptune
My Juno trine his Jupiter

Additionally, his Sun-Juno conj. also happens to square my nodes, falling right on the midpoint of the axis.

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posted March 31, 2014 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find these a bit funny, the person I have this love/hate friendship with has these very aspects with me.

Venus conjunct chiron DW
Juno/Mars DW
Juno/Pluto conjunct
Juno Sq Moon

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posted April 01, 2014 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents were married for almost 30 years, until my father died, and they do not have anything from Group A. I didn't check for Group B yet.

With my ex (8 years), I had:

Neptune-Chiron DW
Mars-Juno DW
Jupiter square Juno (1)

With current beau, I have:

Venus-Chiron DW (0)
Mars-Juno DW (0 and 1)
Jupiter sextile Juno (2)

Isn't Venus-Chiron synastry a big deal in Magi astrology?

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posted April 01, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks for sharing. What about the composites?


Id like to know that also!

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posted April 01, 2014 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes either venus, jupiter, or neptune aspecting Chiron is considered a Cinderella aspects in magi astrology.

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posted April 01, 2014 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't check composite, but my idea is that if a couple has neither A or B in there Synastry chart, yet it shows in Comp/Draconic/Helio then that would surely give validation esp. If they already been together for a long time.

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posted April 01, 2014 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If your gonna use magi aspects look at tight parallels and contra-parallels.

The Obamas for example have:
Juno-Chiron & Mars-Chiron contra-parallels
Jupiter-Chiron parallel
Jupiter-Juno parallel

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posted April 02, 2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jason Momoa (8/1/1979) and Lisa Bonet (11/16/1967)
his Mars squares Her Chiron (0), no Juno aspects. Unless you count Juno sextile Jupiter over 3 degs.

Declination: No parallels/Conta-parallels with either Juno or Chiron, again unless you consider going over 3 degs. Many don't usually consider going over 1 deg.

Composite: Venus sesqui-square Chiron (0), Neptune sesqui-square Chiron (1), Juno trine Chiron (2)

Draconic: her D-Juno squares his N-mars (2). However, I read that only conjunctions and oppositions are valid.

Helio: her Chiron sextiles his Mars (0), her Juno trines his Earth/Moon/Mercury conjunction.

Seems that Composite and Helio can be helpful

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posted April 02, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With parallels and contraparallels I don't go over 1.5 degrees. I'd go up to 2 degrees if I see a DW with those planets. I am gonna start investigating!

Edit.
Actually Jason and Lisa have a lot of eros/psyche activity, her psyche opposite his eros exact.no magi aspects needed.
Not to mention a tight eros conjunct her sun/mercury.

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posted April 02, 2014 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
With parallels and contraparallels I don't go over 1.5 degrees. I'd go up to 2 degrees if I see a DW with those planets. I am gonna start investigating!

Edit.
Actually Jason and Lisa have a lot of eros/psyche activity, her psyche opposite his eros exact.no magi aspects needed.
Not to mention a tight eros conjunct her sun/mercury.


Cool interesting observation

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posted April 04, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting :-)
Of those aspects, we have Jupiter-Juno and Mars&Neptune-Chiron.

Our composite has several aspects of those planets&asteroids.

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posted April 04, 2014 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your research.
We have these aspects in our Synastry.

A
Venus-Chiron (wide)opposite
Mars-Chiron square (3)
Mars-Chiron quintile (1)
Neptune-Chiron biquintile (0)

B
Venus-Juno quintile (0)
Mars-Juno trine (2)

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posted April 05, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!

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posted April 05, 2014 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and M
A Venus trine Chiron (7)
A Neptune trine Chiron (3)
B Mars sextile Juno (3)

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posted April 06, 2014 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my mother and I have
A - Chiron conjunct Mars
B - Juno conjunct Jupiter
I'm so lucky to have had a long lasting good relationship with my mother, loving and respectful.

My best friend (male) and I share:
A - Chiron conjunct Venus
B - Juno trine Jupiter +
Juno opposite Saturn
Long time relationship, always feel good after being with him.

Best friend (female) and I have:
A - Chiron trine Neptune +
Chiron wide conjunct Saturn
B - Juno trine Jupiter

I think these aspects count for something, even though they are not with a marriage partner.

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posted March 02, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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posted March 02, 2015 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, now I'm really starting to believe in Magi astrology. After all, even if their intrepretations don't fit traditional astrology meanings of planets, they are tested and studied with real data.

Me -- him, geocentric

Chiron conjunct Neptune, 1
Chiron sextile Venus, 4
Venus quincunx Chiron, 5

Venus sextile Juno, 3
Juno sextile Mars, 6
Saturn opposite Juno, 3
Juno trine Chiron, 2

I remember a little experiment in heliocentric synastry from Astro keen or someone else. About two thirds of the synastries had an Earth/Moon - Chiron aspect.

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posted March 03, 2015 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha I was just about to reply, and then saw my post from 1 year ago.

Well, we have married since

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posted March 04, 2015 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Liliya
Congratulations! :sparkle: You guys definitely share some nice aspects involving Chiron and Juno

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