posted September 21, 2015 01:50 AM            

I've evaluated charts of sexual sadists as well as homicidal personalities and convicted killers -- especially those who were actively sadistic and emotionally abusive to their victims (as well as any partners they had beforehand).

posted September 21, 2015 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I still haven't found SADO to be active in the charts of any sadists. Kind of surprised by that.

I've evaluated charts of sexual sadists as well as homicidal personalities and convicted killers -- especially those who were actively sadistic and emotionally abusive to their victims (as well as any partners they had beforehand).

Just my experience, of course.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I still haven't found SADO to be active in the charts of any sadists. Kind of surprised by that.

I've evaluated charts of sexual sadists as well as homicidal personalities and convicted killers -- especially those who were actively sadistic and emotionally abusive to their victims (as well as any partners they had beforehand).

Just my experience, of course.

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Very interesting. Not only one astrological configuration defines a person. Specially involving asteroids that weight way less than planets. I've been more involved with Vedic Astrology and it seems to exist a certain astrological pattern for that kind of behavior. Kapiel Raaj mentioned that he's been studying this for years and noticed that sadistic individuals have strong connection between the Moon (the emotional and unconscious part of the mind) and one of the following elements: Mars, Saturn and Nodes. I don't know if in Western Astrology there's something similar to this.

posted September 21, 2015 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I just read right now about Cutting yourself Disorder and your thoughts on Sado really resemble the pain behind this disorder: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/cutting-yourself-disorder.html

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How did I miss this before Hyp?! Sorry!
I'm reading this now!

I see the similarities!
I would say that disorder would be likened to a particular door that has been closed and locked shut but is not quietly sitting there waiting to re-opened this would be how the pain acts out. It's sadistic behaviors...

"By injuring oneself, a cutter does not realize that he or she is only dealing with the symptoms, rather than dealing with the underlying issue"

posted September 21, 2015 12:24 PM            

However, a PROMINENT Sado, such as Sado conjunct the Moon, for example, will play out as sadism, most likely.

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posted September 21, 2015 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You do have to look at the whole chart because things modify things lol

However, a PROMINENT Sado, such as Sado conjunct the Moon, for example, will play out as sadism, most likely.

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SADO conjunct SUN, as well as SADO conjunct MOON has been the predominant pattern. These individuals actually go out of their way to be generous, gentle, and loving.

I've often wondered if it's due to such deep awareness of their own dark side that they've neutralised the energy completely.

posted September 21, 2015 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Very interesting. Not only one astrological configuration defines a person. Specially involving asteroids that weight way less than planet. I've been more involved with Vedic Astrology and it seems to exist a certain astrological pattern for that kind of behavior. Kapiel Raaj mentioned that he's been studying this for years and noticed that sadistic individuals have strong connection between the Moon (the emotional and unconscious part of the mind) and one of the following elements: Mars, Saturn and Nodes. I don't know if in Western Astrology there's something similar to this.

It's very interesting. I'll leave the links below:
Part 1 http://youtu.be/xzzfZImecKQ
Part 2 http://youtu.be/L2g9L9nbFP4

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posted September 21, 2015 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
How did I miss this before Hyp?! Sorry!
I'm reading this now!

I see the similarities!
I would say that disorder would be likened to a particular door that has been closed and locked shut but is not quietly sitting there waiting to re-opened this would be how the pain acts out. It's sadistic behaviors...

"By injuring oneself, a cutter does not realize that he or she is only dealing with the symptoms, rather than dealing with the underlying issue"

That underlying issue is the pain we've locked inside and refused to go back to because we are afraid of what's behind that door.

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Gabi, this disorder you mentioned here is classified as a subtype of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). I know a lot about it cause I was married to one. Two interesting articles involving Vedic Astrology and this disorder.
https://www.dgoldsteinphd.com/Personality.html http://www.jupitersweb.com/female-medical-diagnosis-borderline-personality-disorder-with-bi-polar-disorde.html

A video too: http://youtu.be/UCN83cHC8vw

posted September 21, 2015 07:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
My Libra Moon is conjunct Pluto by 1.28 degrees, with Sado 1.15 degrees from Pluto. Also BML is conjunct Sado by .06, and these are all in the 8th house. I am in no way sadistic, nor have I ever been even in childhood. I never had to overcome any dark urges to hurt others or animals, physically or verbally. I actually have 5 planets in my 8th, and 3 planets in Scorpio. If anything, I'm someone that cannot stand idly by when I see someone being hurt or abused in any way. I've gotten involved when I saw a man hit his girlfriend, while 3 men turned a blind eye to it. I always stood up for people being bullied, and I don't even kill bugs.

I think that this aspect allows me to understand the complex psychology that motivates people to do horrible things to others. I could've been a criminal profiler, because I have an inherent understanding of people and I am highly intuitive and empathetic. When I see crimes on the news, I know who committed the crime, what their motive was, and what the victim experienced. I'm spot on in nearly every case. Maybe I understand the darker sides of the human psyche, but it doesn't mean I'm a sadistic person.

Ami, I think that you are too black and white when it comes to astrology and to people. Just because you know one person with an aspect, you cannot judge everyone with that aspect. Something in your synastry could be causing you to not be compatible. I never look at anything as entirely good or evil, it's far too simplistic. Like saying all Libra Moons are cold hearted, because you had that experience. I've experienced Cancer Moons that are so wrapped up in their own emotions, it never occurs to them that others have feelings too. If anything, my Libra Moon allows me to always see things from different points of view when emotions are involved. I'm very compassionate and understanding.

I'm not very active on LL, but I think my conduct on here shows that I'm respectful to everyone, even if I completely disagree with them. This is how I treat everyone whether they are right in front of me, or on the other side of a computer screen. The same cannot be said of everyone on LL, including you at times. I have noticed that you don't involve yourself in as many disagreements, but there was a time you were so defensive that you were incredibly contentious if anyone didn't agree with you. I think you realized your own role in these arguments, and now you are choosing to take the high road rather than get involved. I mention this because if I was a sadist, I think that would show in how I treat others here on LL.

I'm far from sadistic. It concerns me because many that are just getting into astrology read your articles, and might get the wrong idea. I learned a lot from you when I first got into astrology, but I quickly realized that it's not so black and white. Aspects can go either way.

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I also have Sado 0 degree on my Pluto, along with both being on my AC.
I have never had the desire to hurt others or anything at all. It's as you said...
"this aspect allows me to understand the complex psychology that motivates people to do horrible things to others. I could've been a criminal profiler, because I have an inherent understanding of people and I am highly intuitive and empathetic."

posted September 21, 2015 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Gabi, this disorder you mentioned here is classified as a subtype of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). I know a lot about it cause I was married to one. Two interesting articles involving Vedic Astrology and this disorder.
https://www.dgoldsteinphd.com/Personality.html http://www.jupitersweb.com/female-medical-diagnosis-borderline-p ersonality-disorder-with-bi-polar-disorde.html

A video too: http://youtu.be/UCN83cHC8vw

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posted March 03, 2016 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by mooninaries94:
I have Sado in Libra , right in the end of the 12th house ... so, conjunct my ascendant.

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How close? Do you relate?

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posted March 03, 2016 05:26 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How close? Do you relate?

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posted March 04, 2016 10:24 AM            

#1. I am into BDSM (submissive, but not a heavy masochist), and the first guy I ever did impact play with had his Sado conjunct my Vx exact! Made me laugh.

#2. A different relationship where he had Sado conj his Moon by 1 degree, which conjuncts my Mars by 2 degrees and my S. Node by 4 (wide, but with a bunch of other planets hanging around there including Jupiter, it's relevant.) Anyhow, his mother stripped him down emotionally as a child.

Synastary wise, this placement helped me to understand how he was often emotionally self-centered and how his borderline emotionally abusive behavior would crush not only my ability to act, but my sexuality and self-esteem. (This conjunction is in my 2nd house.)

I have a history of picking emotionally, mentally abusive men who diminish my self-worth. (Natal Mars conj S.Node in Virgo, 2nd house)

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posted March 09, 2016 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
The asteroid Sado was named after a place in Japan, not the Marquis de Sade.

While it certainly may indicate sadism in some charts, I think it is important to consider the reason for the name of an asteroid when developing astrological interpretations.

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posted April 09, 2017 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by dadoo:
Sado was the island where state offenders were exiled, so I could go as far as "unfair punishment" in my interpretation.
But I agree, Sado -> sadism is pushing it.

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posted April 23, 2017 07:39 PM            

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