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Topic: Collating materials for an ISIS/OSIRIS reference thread - contributions welcomed
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 23, 2014 02:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by LuckyStar: I have a Isis/Osirus conjunction in my natal chart ~12 degrees Capricorn. I do not know what to make of it. I know it's a blessing and special but I feel nebulous in order to manifest it properly. Any help? It is in my first house on the cusp of the second. (birthday Jan 22, 1971)
12º degrees is too far for a conjunction. I would say, however, that a linkage of ISIS and OSIRIS can indicate a greater likelihood that you have a Twin Flame, and a Reunion might be possible. My own has the same 8º angle, but in the opposite phase, in his natal. Naturally, in our composite, we have a near-exact conjunction. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 24, 2014 07:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: I would like to add the above to the ISIS/OSIRIS thread, but I think my brain isn't working too well at present. Could you please simplify the above for me? Trying the first one:Her Tutenchamun and Sun conj His Osiris and Echnaton in Leo: (Inner personality + ideas of men in sync with how the man is as the man? Egyptian contact with the Tut/Osiris-Echnaton on top?) How do I state the bits in the brackets simply? Thanks a lot if you could help here.
I'm actually not sure how I could help since what I tried to go for was based on IQ's old answers and is a bit of a foreign language to me. It's trying to grasp something the way he's done and having little idea beyond that as those things go. I don't do short well, I do paragraphs to TRY to grasp something. IQ's used "inner personality" to pass for what the Sun represents, hence that. It's also part of what women think of men or how they see them, husband-sorts or otherwise, so I was using it also for that? Some thread with his answers had the Osiris stuff for a man standing for their ideas of themselves as the "hero" or ideal version, I forget what it was now since I haven't glanced at them since I posted all that. As for the second one, Osiris was the ideal man with a woman (again based on what IQ's written elsewhere), and conjunct Amor lead to a bit of an "eternal" search just for such a figure or partner. Mars you know, so I imagined that a man's Mars conjunct a woman's Osiris may lead to some correspondance between the masculine sides or ideas of the two. Amor conjunct Amor synastry just happens to happen with those as well, bringing another level to it. Anything I wrote was mimicry from old posts to try to shorten things or go his route, so it'd be easier asking IQ to put things like down in words instead of someone like me trying to grasp at it as a foreign/alien language. I have little clue beyond sitting with an open dictionary (or old posts written by others, if you like) to try to make up sentences in that foreign language? Did the above help at all for where things were coming from? IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 24, 2014 07:45 PM
IndigoD,I read LuckyStar's comment as the conjunction as AT around 12 degrees Capricorn, although I could be wrong, of course. Have to ask them. IP: Logged |
Astro keen unregistered
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posted May 24, 2014 11:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Keela: I'm actually not sure how I could help since what I tried to go for was based on IQ's old answers and is a bit of a foreign language to me. It's trying to grasp something the way he's done and having little idea beyond that as those things go. I don't do short well, I do paragraphs to TRY to grasp something. IQ's used "inner personality" to pass for what the Sun represents, hence that. It's also part of what women think of men or how they see them, husband-sorts or otherwise, so I was using it also for that? Some thread with his answers had the Osiris stuff for a man standing for their ideas of themselves as the "hero" or ideal version, I forget what it was now since I haven't glanced at them since I posted all that. As for the second one, Osiris was the ideal man with a woman (again based on what IQ's written elsewhere), and conjunct Amor lead to a bit of an "eternal" search just for such a figure or partner. Mars you know, so I imagined that a man's Mars conjunct a woman's Osiris may lead to some correspondance between the masculine sides or ideas of the two. Amor conjunct Amor synastry just happens to happen with those as well, bringing another level to it. Anything I wrote was mimicry from old posts to try to shorten things or go his route, so it'd be easier asking IQ to put things like down in words instead of someone like me trying to grasp at it as a foreign/alien language. I have little clue beyond sitting with an open dictionary (or old posts written by others, if you like) to try to make up sentences in that foreign language? Did the above help at all for where things were coming from?
Keela, You asked for iQ's opinion on some aspects. But I can't understand what these aspects refer to precisely, perhaps because of the way the information has been condensed/summarised in your question. iQ, on the other hand, understood and responded. See below: << Woman's Tutenchamun-Sun conj the man's Osiris-Echnaton, Leo. Inner personality + ideas of men in sync with how the man is as the man? Egyptian contact with the Tut/Osiris-Echnaton on top? >> Correct.
<< Woman's Valentine trine man's Sun-Nepthys -linked aspect or not a link with the above? Woman's Amor-Osiris conj man's Amor-Mars, Pisces. Woman's ideal man matching the man's active sides? >> Now it looks linked.
<< Woman's Merc (opp all that Amor-Osiris-Mars) conj his Horus. >> Intellectual need to have a blessed child with him. << Woman's Moon opp man's Isis, Pisces-Virgo. Ideas of feminine sides at odds, feelings not in sync with how he likes his women? >> Yes, and this is from a subconscious level. << OR does his Osiris conj her Sun with her Moon opp his Isis make it something more? Luminaries only from one side though. Man's Venus trine his Osiris, any bearing on woman's Osiris then conj his Mars? >> Makes it a deeper bonding due to their Egyptian Lifetime romance. << Would someone with Amor-Osiris also be likely to hone in on Valentine-Isis through synastry then? Someone who wants the Osiris wants the same levels of big love also for the Isis side? Patterns are love in any case. >> Yes, likewise Valentine-Osiris can connect strongly to Amor-Isis.
<< As I see it, with a Nepthys-Sun person having their Osiris conjunct someone else's Sun, it's still a secondary thing since she only borrowed Isis' husband? Woman's Nepthys square her Moon (opp Sun/Moon MP) and man's Isis (by one). >> This is a correct view.
So, basically, I am asking you to rephrase your question in a couple of sentences, if that. I hope this makes sense.
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 25, 2014 09:56 PM
Actually, now I'm not getting you on the "what these aspects refer to" part. I already said that whatever condensing came out of IQH's old posts here and there and that I don't speak "IQ" naturally, nor remember where the old posts I had open back then are. The planets and asteroids in question are listed, same as which side had them, the man or the woman. I expected IQ to expand slightly based on the skeleton frame of what I'd written, which is probably part of the problem. For example, he lumped "Woman's Valentine trine man's Sun-Nepthys -linked aspect or not a link with the above?" in the second answer (ignoring that bit?), when to me it was related to the first question and not the second one. Actually, that wasn't even the first question instead of the second, but I didn't have a question mark behind my first sentence so apparently that was read as me supposedly knowing something already (no). "Now it looks linked" says a little bit but it doesn't enlighten what he thinks is the precise linking bit or reason. I may have vague ideas that there is some linking or mirroring going on since I already wrote the info out to ask if the vague idea or hunch had something behind it - but it doesn't mean I know what made HIM think it's linked. I get partial answers but they're not necessarily what I expected (expansion, opening up the questions), but since he's barely around and practically never further answers to an already answered question, that's what I get and no point in asking for the expansion that'd explain. *shrug* Not vitally important to me either I imagine, my having forgotten all about this until your asking me and our seeming to not know what the other is talking about either. The last three questions/paragraphs quoted here also seem to have most of what I knew or asked already, so I'm not too sure how I could rephrase what is "I list the planets/asteroids and their aspects, then post the related question" already. "with a Nepthys-Sun person having their Osiris conjunct someone else's Sun, it's still a secondary thing since she only borrowed Isis' husband? Woman's Nepthys square her Moon (opp Sun/Moon MP) and man's Isis (by one). >> This is a correct view." If Nepthys and Isis are sisters and the former "borrows" Osiris the husband of Isis to conceive a child at some stage (as I think the myth went), Osiris is still not Nepthys's main partner or keen to stick with her if geared toward Isis. Is this the info you're missing from the question? I'm mostly asking from the POV that the Nepthys-Sun person may later have their Isis or Osiris conjunct someone else's Osiris and Isis and that will perhaps trump their Osiris to the Sun synastry conjunction in question here. (Had it been Osiris to Moon and Isis to Sun I'd have rated it higher.) I don't know if IQ used the "Woman's Nepthys square her Moon (opp Sun/Moon MP) and man's Isis (by one)" bit in any way for his judgement, since I didn't know if it was relevant or not. To me it seemed superfluous, but in case it wasn't I included it. Whatever the case, rephrasing the questions may take some time. Do you need the mythological background like in the above case? IP: Logged |
Astro keen unregistered
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posted May 25, 2014 10:04 PM
Keela, OK, I see (at last!).As you said, things haven't been clarified anyway, so I'll just pick a couple that I understand. Just leave as they are. Thanks for responding. IP: Logged |
Leorpio Knowflake Posts: 695 From: Cypress Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 12:57 AM
I like how the only sign which doesn't indicate an ancient Egyptian past life is cancer. Shouldn't it be all or nothing? Some of those other signs might not actually indicate an Egyptian past life either.IP: Logged |
Leorpio Knowflake Posts: 695 From: Cypress Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 01:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: << Also, I'm told of times older than Atlantis and not there. How do you see Isis/Osiris for something like that? Or what do you use in asteroids for something older than Atlantis? >> I have no satisfactory way of knowing this. I do know that Lemuria started prior o Atlantis, and there were civilizations that later moved to subterranean regions [The Myths of Agartha and Shambhalla relate to these]. Right now, I look for Asteroid Hawaii aspects to assess a Lemurian lifetime. Lets say Asteroid Siva, Parvati, Kaali, Sekhmet or Ptah [relating to Primordial Dieties] conjunct a Fixed Star like Vega, Sirius, Antares or Andromeda; and simultaneously we have the Moon or Ascendant aspect HAWAII in any way with a tight orb, then this could be an indicator for the person having had a lifetime earlier than Atlantis. I check with clients whether they have a love for "Lemurian Seed Crystals". Many who have strong Asteroid Hawaii dream of Lemuria and yes, they do attract such crystals Its not an exact calculation though. [/B]
Hi iQ. About Agartha and Shamballah, I've been reading up on these and Shamballah is the capital of Agartha, with those of Agartha coming from some of the survivors of the collapsed Lemuria. While it is true that Lemuria was created before Atlantis, they did co exist side by side for a long time and were even in contact with each other. Agartha is supposed to be the remnants of mainly Lemuria, though I've heard many Atlanteans also went there after the fall of Atlantis. Many Atlanteans fled via the seas to the colonies like Egypt, Mexico, North America, Peru(Incas), and the Pyrenees. Funny how you mention a strong Hawaii and Lemurian connection though because before I just looked up where mine was, I was intrigued by these Lemurian seed crystals xD. I just looked up my Hawaii and its conjunct my ascendant within one orb lol. IP: Logged |
Leorpio Knowflake Posts: 695 From: Cypress Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 05:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: << Also, I'm told of times older than Atlantis and not there. How do you see Isis/Osiris for something like that? Or what do you use in asteroids for something older than Atlantis? >> I have no satisfactory way of knowing this. I do know that Lemuria started prior o Atlantis, and there were civilizations that later moved to subterranean regions [The Myths of Agartha and Shambhalla relate to these]. Right now, I look for Asteroid Hawaii aspects to assess a Lemurian lifetime. Lets say Asteroid Siva, Parvati, Kaali, Sekhmet or Ptah [relating to Primordial Dieties] conjunct a Fixed Star like Vega, Sirius, Antares or Andromeda; and simultaneously we have the Moon or Ascendant aspect HAWAII in any way with a tight orb, then this could be an indicator for the person having had a lifetime earlier than Atlantis. I check with clients whether they have a love for "Lemurian Seed Crystals". Many who have strong Asteroid Hawaii dream of Lemuria and yes, they do attract such crystals Its not an exact calculation though. [/B]
Hi iQ. About Agartha and Shamballah, I've been reading up on these and Shamballah is the capital of Agartha, with those of Agartha coming from some of the survivors of the collapsed Lemuria. While it is true that Lemuria was created before Atlantis, they did co exist side by side for a long time and were even in contact with each other. Agartha is supposed to be the remnants of mainly Lemuria, though I've heard many Atlanteans also went there after the fall of Atlantis. Many Atlanteans fled via the seas to the colonies like Egypt, Mexico, North America, Peru(Incas), and the Pyrenees. Funny how you mention a strong Hawaii and Lemurian connection though because before I just looked up where mine was, I was intrigued by these Lemurian seed crystals xD. I just looked up my Hawaii and its conjunct my ascendant within one orb lol. IP: Logged |
Bismarck2 Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Mar 2019
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posted November 29, 2019 07:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: ISIS conjunct OSIRIS ISIS represents our divine feminine archetype energies of wisdom and OSIRIS the divine masculine wisdom. Their conjunction indicates a very evolved soul in the matters of masculinity-femininity balance. (iQ, Feb 2007)
Why isn't this about the Composite? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 119616 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 30, 2019 10:19 AM
Wow, this was bumped from five years ago. Time flies!IP: Logged |
Bismarck2 Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Mar 2019
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posted December 01, 2019 04:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Wow, this was bumped from five years ago. Time flies!
LOL yah, had to search google for this thread. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 260 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 02, 2019 07:02 AM
I have Isis at 7 Leo and Sun/Moon/Neptune at 8 Cancer/Capricorn. When I turned 29 my Solar Arc Sun was at 7 Leo. At that time I began being viciously spiritually attacked by the entities of Marilyn Monroe and Charlton Heston. To this day I'm now almost 32 they still attack me everyday and are trying to take my life. I barely have any energy left they feed on me like a light bulb. Charlton Heston has Jupiter in Scorpio in the first house conjunct Lucifer. I found out he's the one who assassinated Kennedy and you wouldn't believe why.. because jealousy over Marilyn Monroe. Whats funny is he became president of the NRA probably as a cruel joke. He was also married to a man who dressed in drag he presented as his wife. I think he might be satan in human form because he created 'Babylon' with his films and I know Marilyn Monroe is the '***** of Babylon'. Anyway I'm also deeply spiritually connected to the pyramids in Giza. The Sphinx used to be a Lion to represent the constellation Leo but as you know its head has been carved into a mans head now. These structures were built about 12,000 years ago and this represents the full moon of the ages (precession takes 25,920 years) because Aquarius is a man and we are now entering into the age of Aquarius.What will be revealed has to do with the evolution of man. Here is a interesting documentary on this subject by Graham Hancock hosted by satan himself: Charlton Heston. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVuWxkUc1o&t=721s IP: Logged | |