posted April 14, 2014 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Where is Lachesis? And what aspects?
Also, are you together? for how long?

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LL,

in the Composite, Lachesis conjuncts the Moon and both square the Atropos/South Node conjunction in the 6th house.

posted April 14, 2014 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
LL,

in the Composite, Lachesis conjuncts the Moon and both square the Atropos/South Node conjunction in the 6th house.

no, not together, this is quite prolonged a crush of mine...

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posted April 14, 2014 02:08 PM            

Lachesis @ 26'19 Sag on GC in 4th
Conjunct Juno 3'
Square union 2'
Quintile Pluto 0'
Quincux Boda 0'
Parallel atropos and neptune
Contra parallel jupiter

Atropos in 4th Sag
Square ASC 0'
Sextile Pluto 2.5'
Parallel alma, neptune and IC
Opposite and contrparallel jupiter 1'

Kloth @ 3' Scorpio opposite our Sedna (betrayal)/Chiron conjunction.
Ironically, Kloth sits on cusp of our 3rd house....betrayal through communication....pfft...nice.

Last but not least Moira:
Sits in fixed sign Taurus in the 9th
Square Saturn (2.5) in fixed sign Leo
And sextile sun 0' and union 2.5'
Parallel Boda and Groom

posted April 14, 2014 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I wonder why it's fixed at number three. Where we have these three in our composite/Davison is where we must surrender to fate then.

In Composite, we have:

Klotho the 'spinner' at 5 CAP in 11th, quincunx Moon in 6th exact and sextile Pluto in 9th exact.
Klotho conjunct Neptune widely, sextile Lachesis

Lachesis 'alotter' is at 8.5 SCORPIO conjunct MC 11 SCORPIO.
Lachesis also widely conjunct Pluto in 9th, square Moon and ASC.

Atropos the 'inevitable', 'unpredictable' is at 16 SAG in 11th conjunct Uranus(coincidence?) 16 SAG/Mercury 15 SAG/Sun 15 SAG/Lucifer 16SAG/Karma 17SAG. Atropos/Lucifer is also on the Midpoint of Sun and Venus.
Atropos also trine Jupiter in 7th exact, quincunx North Node in 4th, loosely oppose Chiron in 5th.

I don't know how to interpret composite Klotho and the first meeting because I found no connection with it to our natal, but Lacheis and Atropos seem to point to conflicting themes, to be or not to be?

In the Davison, which is the Composite with Angles reserved:

Klotho 19 CANCER quincunx Vertex 17 SAG

Lacheis 12 TAURUS conjunct MC 11 TAURUS

Atropos Retro 18 SAG conjunct Vertex 17 SAG/ Uranus Retro/Karma 16 SAG; opposite Sun/Mercury 16 GEM.

Again this conflicting theme, but is Atropos the outcome? Lucifer and Karma also are prominent in those charts, is Atropos show the karma and inherent power in the charts here or even karma and power must bound to fate?

I remember having checked Moira in our composite, conjunct Briede 1 degree and trine Groom 1 degree. Have asteroid Moira any connection to the three fate asteroids?

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Tulipe, is Klotho related to the circumstances of the beginning of your relationship? Does it fit?

Lachesis points to a long -term relationship.

Atropos, IMO, might be related to the two being separated in space, putting some distance between them, like moving to a different place separately, but not right away, after some long time together.

posted April 14, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Atropos in the 10th: long-term relationship (if not on MC)

The one in the fist pic is your celebrity crush? Hm...apparently you appreciate intelligence in a man...

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Lol, of course it's not him. I have aesthetic needs, you know? I just wanted to show how I'm watching his every move from hiding.

Atropos is in the second half of the house. That's right, he's been my celeb boyfriend for quite a long time ^^

posted April 14, 2014 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interesting subject!

I am using two composites/ Davison (one with Mr Law, one with Mr Sag) and you can guess which belongs to whom.

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A) composite
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MOIRA on 12 Aquarius in 2nd house:
conjunct Jupiter on 14 Aquarius
conjunct BRIEDE on 11 Aquarius
conjunct GROOM on 10 Aquarius

Sabian: A Barometer

like the ideal, perhaps??

LACHESIS On 25 Pisces, intercepted in 3rd:
conjunct KAALI on 25 Pisces
square SIVA on 27 Sagittarius
square Venus on 24 Sagittarius

Sabian:
Watching The Very Thin Moon Crescent Appearing At Sunset, Different People Realize That The Time Has Come To Go Ahead With Their Different Projects

Pisces, 3rd house: Lachesis seems to take place in the mind and in the world of dreams??

KLOTHO on 5 Sagittarius in 12th house
conjunct HERA on 5 Sagittarius
conjunct NEptune and ASC on 8 Sagittarius
square PHOLUS on 4 Pisces

Klotho in 12th with Neptune and ASC: a dream perhaps?? but sudden infatuation (with Pholus)

trine INANNA on 4 ARies, 2 degr before IC
semisextile ADONIS on 5 Scorpio in 11th

Sabian:
A Game Of Cricket
I love all the Sabians in your chart related to the Moirae. Does this Sabian for Klotho tells you anything about the circumstances when you first became aware of this MR.?

ATROPOS on 21 Scorpio in 11th house (conj. 12th house cusp by one degree, and actually EXACTLY on my natal 12th house cusp)

again, dream world, ideal

opposite EROS on 20 Taurus in 5th house
trine PROSERPINA on 21 Pisces in 3rd

Sabian:
Hunters Shooting Wild Ducks

chasing wild geese perhaps?

Davison:
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MOIRA on 9 Leo in 1st house
opposite Venus on 9 Aquarius in 7th
opposite BRIEDE on 9 Aquarius in 7th
trine Neptune on 8 Sag in 5th
widely trine KLOTHO on 7 Sag in 5th

Sabian
Early Morning Dew Sparkles As Sunlight Floods The Field

an artistic, inspirational Moira

LACHESIS on 18 Pisces in 9th house
trine ATROPOS

Sabian:
A Master Instructing His Disciple

square GUINEVERE on 18 Sag in 5th
(opp my n Karma, conj. his Karma)

KLOTHO on 7 Sag in 5th house (on the exact degree of my natal ASC)

conjunct ARTHUR on 7 Sag in 5th
conjunct Neptune on 8 Sag in 5th
conjunct HERA on 5 Sag in 5th
trine APHRODITE on 7 Leo in 1st
square UNION on 8 Virgo n 2nd

sextile Pluto on 6 Libra in 4th
sextile PROSERPINA on 6 Libra in 4th
sextile VESTA on 6 Libra in 4th
sextile IC on 6 Libra
sextile LANCELOT on 5 Libra

Sabian:
Within The Depths Of The Earth New Elements Are Being Formed

ATROPOS:
20 Scorpio in 5th house

quinkunx AMOR on 20 Aries in 10th
trine LACHESIS

Sabian:
Obeying His Conscience, A Soldier Resists Orders

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posted April 14, 2014 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
About the first meeting, it happened at the campus where he get lost and I'm the only person in sight who was crazy enough to go for a walk there. Thus I became his guide. I do see it relating with Klotho Cap, but something still not quite fit, I don't know what.
Is about 2 years a long-term relationship? 3 months after we met, I'm relocate to another city for my study, when I'm back he's gone on tour. Now we're both in the same city but I have break up with him.
Maybe Lachesis makes it possible for us to stay together that long.

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There is something. Klotho quincunxed by Moon in 6th - a woman comes to the rescue, comes to help. Klotho related to houses 11th and 9th - houses of the explorer, of the outdoors. You should check the Sabians for Klotho, see what you can find.

posted April 14, 2014 02:44 PM            

What do you think is Lachesis role here, Leeloo?

posted April 14, 2014 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What sign and house is Lachesis? What are the aspects to the Moon? And can you tell me about Klotho too, does it relate to the circumstances of your meeting? (although you say you are not together, so it might point to the actual meeting, when your relationship starts, if it starts). Thanks

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omg, LL
I just noticed, after you asked me about Klotho

posted April 14, 2014 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Which Davidson do you use?

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posted April 14, 2014 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
The Sabian symbol for Klotho: Ten Logs Lie Under An Archway Leading To Darker Woods
There's some guiding here that I can find. That day he even suggested we cut through a woods to get there quicker but no, I may inclined to help him but I'm not stupid .

What do you think is Lachesis role here, Leeloo?

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I've just realized, Klotho in 11th: the house of social gatherings, clubs, friendly meetings: what better place for a campus meeting?

Also, could you please delete the "fake' Charles-Camilla composite chart from your post, in order to avoid confusion? Thanks!

Your Sabian for Klotho is simply amazing! It describes what actually happened at the meeting!

Your Lachesis shows a long term relationship, both in composite and Davison: Scorpio and Taurus, connected with Pluto, and especially the MC: Lachesis projected into the future. You should get back together.

posted April 14, 2014 03:09 PM            

Last but not least Moira:
Sits in fixed sign Taurus in the 9th
Square Saturn (2.5) in fixed sign Leo
And sextile sun 0' and union 2.5'
Parallel Boda and Groom

Tgem, does your Klotho in both composite and Davison tell you anything about the circumstances of your meeting?

I think Moira square Saturn sextile Sun and Union points to a karmic meeting.

posted April 14, 2014 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
omg, LL
I just noticed, after you asked me about Klotho

Klotho is in the 8th house (there is a ton of sexual chemistry betyween us, almost unbearable). It closely opposes Moon/Lachesis and that opposition squares the South Node/Atropos and North Node.

So, a Grand Cross, invloving the 2nd, 8th, 6th and the 12th house...Klotho is in Saggy, Lachesis/Moon is in Gemini, South Node/Atropos in Virgo, North Node in Pisces.

Moon/Lachesis also squares Pluto, about 3 degree in orb

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posted April 14, 2014 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
II.

MOIRA: 3 Sagittarius in 11th house
Sabian: A Little Child Learning To Walk With The Encouragement Of His Parents
(conj. my natal AMor)

I'd say a predestinded grand amore with twinflame flavor (the 11th house)

conjunct TYCHE on 1 Sag in 11th
conjunct GUINEVERE on 3 Sag in 11th
sextile KLOTHO
square VESTA-HERA on 2 Pisces in 1st

LACHESIS: 6 Taurus in 3rd
Sabian: The Woman Of Samaria At The Ancestral Well

durable. The Sabian shows the same thing

opposite LANCELOT in 4 Scorpio in 9th
sqare KLOTHO
quinkunx APHRODITE in 5 Libra

KLOTHO: 4 Aquarius in 1st house
Sabian: A Council Of Ancestors Is Seen Implementing Thee Efforts Of A Young Leader

does Klotho or the ASC describe your first meeting?

loosely conjunct ASC on 1 Aquarius
trine APHRODITE on 5 Libra in 8th
square LANCELOT on 4 Scorpio in 9th
sextile GUINEVRE on 3 Sag in 11th

ATROPOS: 00 Taurus in 3rd
(on my 5th house cusp, opp Uranus)

Sabian: A Clear Mountain Stream

conjunct Chiron on 29 Aries in 3rd
opposite UNION on 29 Libra in 9th
trine DESTINN on 29 Leo in 7th
trine PERSEPHONE on 28 Leo n 7th

I'd say sudden ending with some pain, but also revelation - suggested by Chiron and the Sabian, like an epiphany. But a destined union nevertheless, suggested by the trines.

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posted April 14, 2014 03:26 PM            

sextile JUNO on 15 Scorpio,
square Neptune on 14 Sag in 11th
square Mercury on 14 Gemini in 5th
trine ASC on 13 Capricorn
conjunct PSYCHE and ADONIS On 10 Virgo in 8th
quinkunx LANCELOT on 13 Aries in 2nd
quinkunx ERIS on 14 aries in 2nd
semisextile ARTHUR on 14 Leo in 7th

posted April 14, 2014 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I've just realized, Klotho in 11th: the house of social gatherings, clubs, friendly meetings: what better place for a campus meeting?

Also, could you please delete the "fake' Charles-Camilla composite chart from your post, in order to avoid confusion? Thanks!

Your Sabian for Klotho is simply amazing! It describes what actually happened at the meeting!

Your Lachesis shows a long term relationship, both in composite and Davison: Scorpio and Taurus, connected with Pluto, and especially the MC: Lachesis projected into the future. You should get back together.

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I just realized the 11th house of social clutter too, now I see what was missing. Very fitting, I must say.
Well, if I can't fight against Lachesis than I'll prepare my weapons to blast out his walls.

posted April 14, 2014 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b]Originally posted by tgem:
[B]Interesting- here's the composite of me and Cusp with the four asteroids. Maybe there's hope for a positive destiny??!!

Lachesis @ 26'19 Sag on GC in 4th
Conjunct Juno 3'
Square union 2'
Quintile Pluto 0'
Quincux Boda 0'
Parallel atropos and neptune
Contra parallel jupiter

Atropos in 4th Sag
Square ASC 0'
Sextile Pluto 2.5'
Parallel alma, neptune and IC
Opposite and contrparallel jupiter 1'

Kloth @ 3' Scorpio opposite our Sedna (betrayal)/Chiron conjunction.
Ironically, Kloth sits on cusp of our 3rd house....betrayal through communication....pfft...nice.

Last but not least Moira:
Sits in fixed sign Taurus in the 9th
Square Saturn (2.5) in fixed sign Leo
And sextile sun 0' and union 2.5'
Parallel Boda and Groom

Tgem, does your Klotho in both composite and Davison tell you anything about the circumstances of your meeting?

I think Moira square Saturn sextile Sun and Union points to a karmic meeting.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b]Originally posted by tgem:
[B]Interesting- here's the composite of me and Cusp with the four asteroids. Maybe there's hope for a positive destiny??!!

Lachesis @ 26'19 Sag on GC in 4th
Conjunct Juno 3'
Square union 2'
Quintile Pluto 0'
Quincux Boda 0'
Parallel atropos and neptune
Contra parallel jupiter

Atropos in 4th Sag
Square ASC 0'
Sextile Pluto 2.5'
Parallel alma, neptune and IC
Opposite and contrparallel jupiter 1'

Kloth @ 3' Scorpio opposite our Sedna (betrayal)/Chiron conjunction.
Ironically, Kloth sits on cusp of our 3rd house....betrayal through communication....pfft...nice.

Last but not least Moira:
Sits in fixed sign Taurus in the 9th
Square Saturn (2.5) in fixed sign Leo
And sextile sun 0' and union 2.5'
Parallel Boda and Groom

Tgem, does your Klotho in both composite and Davison tell you anything about the circumstances of your meeting?

I think Moira square Saturn sextile Sun and Union points to a karmic meeting.

[/B]

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posted April 14, 2014 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
In Davidson Klotho in the 12th conjunct Ascendant, Lachesis in the 8th conjunct Chiron and opposite Saturn widely, Atropos in the 6th, Moira in the 7th conjunct NN exact. I hate him O_o

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posted April 14, 2014 03:51 PM            

Anyway, I was thanking you for the interpretation on Jude`s and my charts (how did you know it was him? Did I post our composite too often? ).

Dreams make sense naturally.

I find the ATROPOS position especially intersting.
21 Scorpio - my instant thought was that the ending (even in a dream), maybe also in a past life, would come / came with a big bang. Quite some aggressive energy being unleashed. I mean hunters shooting wild ducks does not quite relate to a peaceful - letīs stay friends in the next life- kind of ending.

Actually it reminded me of a dream I was having many many years ago, in that dream I was running away from my jealous abusive husband (I never had encountered any abuse until then, I was growing up in an idyll - no clue what triggered this dream), and I was running over a meadow, trying to reach a hut, fully knowing that if he caught up with me, he would kill me, or at least beat me so hard that I probably would die later on from that.

I just knew i HAD to reach the hut. I think I was having a lover who waited there for me, and we wanted to run away together.
I never made it to the hut in that dream. Just almost, and I stopped when I realized that I wouldn`t make it in time, and I didn`t want to endanger my lover. It was enough if one of us was killed.
the last thing I remember from that dream is the back of the rifle coming towards me.

Well, this certainly WAS a dream when I was being hunted down, and I kind of think of that one, when seeing that Sabian.

Interestingly not only my 12th house cusp is on 21 Scorpio, but so is my PENELOPE, opposing ODYSSEUS on 21 Taurus exactly and being conjunct my ANTEROS on 19 Sorpio. Probably I could wait a lifetime for the one I determine Mr Right (now).

Also what intrigues me is that Patrick - Mr Sag has ODYSSEUS and VALENTINE both on 19 Scorpio falling onto that, and his 12th house ruler Uranus is on 23 Scorpio near it as well.

as for the other sabian about the cricket, well it seems an important degree. My traditional 12th house and IC-ruler Mars AND IRELAND are both on 5 Sagittarius in my 12th house.
And yet i have no clue what that Sabian means.

posted April 14, 2014 03:51 PM            

Anyway, I was thanking you for the interpretation on Jude`s and my charts (how did you know it was him? Did I post our composite too often? ).

Dreams make sense naturally.

I find the ATROPOS position especially intersting.
21 Scorpio - my instant thought was that the ending (even in a dream), maybe also in a past life, would come / came with a big bang. Quite some aggressive energy being unleashed. I mean hunters shooting wild ducks does not quite relate to a peaceful - letīs stay friends in the next life- kind of ending.

Actually it reminded me of a dream I was having many many years ago, in that dream I was running away from my jealous abusive husband (I never had encountered any abuse until then, I was growing up in an idyll - no clue what triggered this dream), and I was running over a meadow, trying to reach a hut, fully knowing that if he caught up with me, he would kill me, or at least beat me so hard that I probably would die later on from that.

I just knew i HAD to reach the hut. I think I was having a lover who waited there for me, and we wanted to run away together.
I never made it to the hut in that dream. Just almost, and I stopped when I realized that I wouldn`t make it in time, and I didn`t want to endanger my lover. It was enough if one of us was killed.
the last thing I remember from that dream is the back of the rifle coming towards me.

Well, this certainly WAS a dream when I was being hunted down, and I kind of think of that one, when seeing that Sabian.

Interestingly not only my 12th house cusp is on 21 Scorpio, but so is my PENELOPE, opposing ODYSSEUS on 21 Taurus exactly and being conjunct my ANTEROS on 19 Sorpio. Probably I could wait a lifetime for the one I determine Mr Right (now).

Also what intrigues me is that Patrick - Mr Sag has ODYSSEUS and VALENTINE both on 19 Scorpio falling onto that, and his 12th house ruler Uranus is on 23 Scorpio near it as well.

as for the other sabian about the cricket, well it seems an important degree. My traditional 12th house and IC-ruler Mars AND IRELAND are both on 5 Sagittarius in my 12th house.
And yet i have no clue what that Sabian means.

posted April 14, 2014 03:54 PM            

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Probably I could wait a lifetime for the one I determine Mr Right (now).

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Just hunt that Sag down already
:P