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Topic: STARSEEDS ; Lyran Ring Nebula M57
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 15, 2014 11:45 PM
Site nonsense edit #2. "IQ, anything to say about the SGC effects then after your GA/GC difference talk?" IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 16, 2014 12:35 AM
Taineberry, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206728.html for one Soomana/Sootiyo post.
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Conquered for being over Sympathetic to the malevolent strong who pretended to be weak and benign. We did not see through the "Crocodile Tears"....Conquered because there was nobody home who had the attitude of the fictional "Expendables" Cast. And Tsun-Zu did not exist so we had no clue about the Art of War. The biggest lesson from the fiasco is that compassion should be shown to the enemy only after 100% disarmament and containment. Forgive the enemy AFTER you have shielded yourself and quarantined them. Do show the other cheek.... just ensure the enemy's hand is smarting from your steel helmet. The worst of all past life recalls would be that of the Lyran defeat. In fact, if humanity would have agreed to suppress every past life recall just to make sure we do not have to see this again. We sucked big time My Secondary Ascendant is 21 Capricorn. Note: Secondary Ascendant or "Shadow Ascendant" was a term coined by Carl Payne Tobey where the Ascendant is shifted back by the same value as the difference between the Tropical Sun and the Tropical Ascendant. I think this is the Ascendant that describes our Astral Body but I am not sure.
IQ, you continue to be more "condemning" than my inclination would be (so presume you'd put me down for the weakness of compassion, sympathy or whatnot) but then I don't hold your sadness or faces over anything such for now either. Talk of steel helmets doesn't seem any way to go, but anyway. As for Shadow Ascendants, apparently mine is (late) 14 Cancer. That or early 15, have to calculate it more accurately still. Hello, spot between my Sootiyo and Sirius. Coincidentally also my Vesuvius, Kalevala and more from what I recall. 14 Can Kalevala, Sidi, Dalem, Kaho. Vesuvius was 13.58 I see. Shadow ASC conj Sootiyo in any case, and opposite Vega if nothing else. IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted May 20, 2014 02:55 PM
Thanks Keela for the Soomana/Sootiyo info.IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted May 20, 2014 02:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mystic_Cat: Is Vega connected or just the Nebula itself?My Moon is exactly conjunct Vega at 14' Capricorn, Neptune is at 21' Capricorn just touching the m57
Vega is connected as it is part of the constellation Lyra. However, I THINK it has more to do with ascended beings ... still not sure exactly and trying to figure it out logically. IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted May 20, 2014 03:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Keela: Taineberry,the other thing I left out about IQ pointing out I had Laotse conjunct Venus ............What, you actually expected to be whisked off on a ship or to have total enlightenment straight off or something? Gaaah.
Cool info Keela .. I am still assimilating but your chart seems really interesting .. and thanks for the dream input (I love hearing about dreams like that)!! Will try to give my 2 cents on some of the Q's you posed soon. However, probably only after end of week as my work is draining me brainless at the mo. Your last comment about "total enlightenment straight off" gave me a good giggle. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 20, 2014 07:41 PM
Thought you might have suffered of the board posting issues I had for a few days, too, but thanks for letting me know, anyway. I may bump this later if nobody else comments, if remember. Not sure where everyone else went/trying not to kill this with my verbosity again. See you when we see you. Don't go all Star Trek Borg on us with the assimilation talk.  And hey, nobody's saying "total enlightenment straight off" wasn't go, but the whine-level or "Well, no" levels from my perspective lead me to imagine that there might still be a moment longer before said person got his to click. I think it was mostly about Ashtar stuff and 2012 in his case, though he made a deliberate point about having done a couple of other spiritually leaning "things" or fads before as well, and how those certainly didn't work or weren't right - but how he'd now believed that the Ashtar Command stuff and 2012 was it and real, so how could they, how could it not be real or not happen, why wasn't he taken up on a spaceship or whatever it was? Because he'd obviously never done anything similar with his beliefs before, but this was to be it and was real and look at how much he'd done for it and how much he'd touted it to people, so now that it wasn't real after 2012... EVERYBODY hear how this thing especially was bad. Everyone has their patterns they're blind to but that one thing stuck in mind due to the level of sighs involved. http://markandrewholmes.com/sootiyo.html http://markandrewholmes.com/soomana.html for more. I don't always agree with all of his interpretations but he is one of the few out there to systematically write such. www.drboylan.com/strknrpt2.html says the Sioux/Lakota people hail from the Pleiades (and Sirius and Orion) as well? http://youtu.be/5mFLBrL_gAE "Sundance Chief- Lakota Star Connection to Pleiades" Guess I should look at all my 16 Can stuff conjunct the 15 Can Sootiyo, too, even if currently mostly thinking of Alma, not the Lucifers and more. ;P 12th house. IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 600 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 07:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Keela: Also never had anything but love from that, pretty much ignoring whatever YouTube asshattery "messages" about whatever ships coming soon - instead of the interests I'd have in any case. The same as people whining about 2012 not bringing them spiritual enlightenment despite "All the things I did, whinge, this is so not on, dude, I'mma quit right now, tell everyone it's all bogus, man" style things leading me to facepalm. As usual. What, you actually expected to be whisked off on a ship or to have total enlightenment straight off or something? Gaaah.
Well, there is the idea that indeed, the reason behind the phenomenon of ancient races suddenly "disappearing," in the sense of there being an abrupt end of archaeological evidence of their presence, is that they evolved (or devolved?) to an extent that their vibration could no longer match that of the extant earth at the time and they went to exist elsewhere, on another vibratory level. Of course there are famines and diseases and other sudden means of population decimation, but I do wonder if some of the more mysterious and seemingly advanced cultures we've found indications of weren't indeed "raptured" away to a new dimension. As well, in our soul's long sojourn, I don't doubt that being rescued from foreign terrain by space brothers from whatever race one belonged to is part of the unconscious memories of many. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 08:19 AM
Jovian,I'm talking more the usual scaremongering "Death, doooom" versions of "If you're righteous/highly ascended and light enough, we can come and whisk you off when the time for the GUARANTEED (no, rly, we said it's coming SOON, didn't you watch or read our last 520 channellings?) Destruction, DOOM, of the planet comes. If you are not, you can't stand our beam-me-up-Scotty moves and tough noogies you losing then. Enjoy our combined channelled messages of scaremongering DOOOM some more and see how well that focuses you on good things. Also, don't bother with any possibly spiritually helpful things really, just do what we tell you to and that'll sort it out." Reaching a state where people vibrate higher is fine, but in my limited opinion it seems unlikely to come through "Yeah, so the planet is going to go bust soon, Doom be upon you, we just thought we'd scaremonger some more and distract you from stuff" type messages full of negativity. Going by most people seen around, 2012 seemed unlikely to lead to sudden rapture based on where people seemed to be spiritually or otherwise. And since I apparently went whisking up people freed from a factory on whatever other planet in a dream, ;) on your unconscious memories front. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5012 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2014 08:23 AM
The main difference between SGC effect and GC that I have noted is: SGC effects take more time to be felt. And when they do, there is a deeper sense of Transformation. GC effects seem to be more direct. Sun conjunct GC, well the person is a no nonsense fan of Sci-Fi, Spielberg and Star Trek. The SGC person may appear Ethereal and different, yes spiritually inclined but there will be a semblance of normalcy for a while. The same person when 50+ will be longing for retreats, may be healing others from a distance, enjoying Astral Travel on a daily basis and so on. Those with both GC and SGC effects, well they are the people who are not afraid to speak about visitations and dreams of Aliens. ------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 09:56 AM
IQ,Thanks for chipping in again. You wrote elsewhere: "posted June 28, 2011 04:58 AM I am not Phil Sedgewick but my take is: GC Aspects:= Give the ability to evolve by 'downloading' Galactic Level Paradigms. GA Aspects:= Give the ability to be "pulled" into living or propagating the concepts of an Inter Galactic Consciousness. SGC Aspects:= Give the ability to evolve multi-dimensionally by 'downloading' Inter Galactic Level Paradigms spanning different galaxies and time-lines Typical GC person = Steven Spielberg, Michael Crichton
Typical GA person = Noam Chomsky Typical SGC person = Philip K Dick, Arthur C Clarke" --- "Spirit+Neptune in GC allows you to access the entire knowledge of the galaxy. I wrote some posts which showed every super achiever in this world having a direct GC link. Neil Armstrong, Steven Spielberg etc." on the other hand hails from http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012716.html Couldn't find the super-achiever post though.
quote: Originally posted by iQ: The main difference between SGC effect and GC that I have noted is: SGC effects take more time to be felt. And when they do, there is a deeper sense of Transformation. GC effects seem to be more direct. Sun conjunct GC, well the person is a no nonsense fan of Sci-Fi, Spielberg and Star Trek. The SGC person may appear Ethereal and different, yes spiritually inclined but there will be a semblance of normalcy for a while. The same person when 50+ will be longing for retreats, may be healing others from a distance, enjoying Astral Travel on a daily basis and so on. Those with both GC and SGC effects, well they are the people who are not afraid to speak about visitations and dreams of Aliens.
Spielberg doesn't go with scifi-liking where I hail from. ;) And I have Spielberg conjunct my Antivertex. ET's got nothing on Asimov, Heinlein & even that Star Trek in my books, or your listed P.K. Dick or Clarke. I have Stevens conjunct my Karma, but that doesn't tie to S. Spielberg. Have nothing obvious at the GC (Ariadne-Lust on it, Industria & Spellman around) but I guess Kirkland conjunct Sun and Startek near ASC, with Enterprise-Spock conj Eros will sort scifi-liking out as well then. Dick conjunct Aura/Grandprism-Socrates/Sherlock with Philia conjunct ASC? ;) Wouldn't know. My Clarke's at 2 Sag, but Clarkehowell on the other hand hits 2 Libra's IC & Clarkben 4 Libra with my other name asteroid, so here's looking at you, kid. "Francis Clark Howell (1925-2007), generally known as "F. Clark Howell", was an American anthropologist. He altered his discipline by adding a broad spectrum of modern sciences to the traditional "stones and bones" approach of the past and is considered the father of modern paleo-anthropology." Had Serendip-Indiana-Archaeopteryx conjunct Atlantis (in Taurus), too, watch me start digging. ;) IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5572 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 10:50 AM
I have something at all 3, although only asteroids and the Sun/Moon pt., which is a lot more subtle (nebulous?) than having a Sun or ASC at these points.Could someone hazard a guess as to what Sun/Moon pt at GC would mean? I have: SGC- Spirit (2.23) GA - Isis (13.18), Sekhmet (14), Apollo (14.14), Osiris (14.32) - indicators of an Egyptian past-life GC - Giza (24.58), BML (25.25), Pallas (26.35), Sun/Moon pt (26.57) GC was @ 26.14 the year I was born. Giza might be too wide.
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5572 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 24, 2014 02:39 PM
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 24, 2014 02:53 PM
Forgive me, but I think saying that having a lot of SCO energy in the chart makes one Reptilian is ... a misnomer.I do like the notion of Cosmic Wanderer, though. Heh. Though it would appear my soul hails from several extraterrestrial points of royalty, (and a few Earthbound), my chart is packed with SCO. My SUN-PLUTO is square 20º CAP, but I'm not sure that's relating to my extradimensional 'heritage' or history. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 24, 2014 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: I have something at all 3, although only asteroids and the Sun/Moon pt., which is a lot more subtle (nebulous?) than having a Sun or ASC at these points.Could someone hazard a guess as to what Sun/Moon pt at GC would mean? I have: SGC- Spirit (2.23) GA - Isis (13.18), Sekhmet (14), Apollo (14.14), Osiris (14.32) - indicators of an Egyptian past-life GC - Giza (24.58), BML (25.25), Pallas (26.35), Sun/Moon pt (26.57) GC was @ 26.14 the year I was born. Giza might be too wide.
AstroK, I've always thought that your SUN/MOON=GC is a powerful linkage to the greater whole. That your balance of masculine and feminine allows you to 'tap into' the universal 'download', as iQ might say. Perhaps this is best achieved when you are feeling a true balance of the two: ego and emotion, projective and receptive, and so on. Perhaps timed by progressions? IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5572 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 24, 2014 04:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Perhaps this is best achieved when you are feeling a true balance of the two: ego and emotion, projective and receptive, and so on. Perhaps timed by progressions?
Thanks Indigo - this helps to make it clearer. There is a goal to work towards before a potential can be realised. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 27, 2014 11:36 AM
Then again, today seems to be a day when get emotional over http://youtu.be/8NJxaOGl4FY with the senseless destruction of the Brunnen-G home by the/His Shadow, so to BUMP the post, have if you can take it. Lexx and the Yo Way Yo chant the Brunnen-G sing when going into battle expecting to die. Kai's actor Michael McManus seems to have his Vesta at 13.12 Gemini opposite GA and Juno 26.20 Taurus near Algol, Pluto around Thuban, Jupiter near Fomalhaut. For whatever it's worth. *shrug* Lexx wasn't always the deepest series but it had some interesting concepts and stories. Ignore the "cheap" look of the musical "theatre"-set Brigadoom-episode, for example, and get the whole Kai lifestory with some very good or catchy songs otherwise as well. http://youtu.be/Ln5yKGDJtaQ "It matters not if the cause is lost and we cannot stop the tide... This moment will live on through time if anyone ever asks why..." quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: ...the physical remnants of a super nova explosion of the Lyran homeland which, in galactic myth, was the original location of all humanoid races before it was destroyed by the Draco's...
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted June 06, 2014 10:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: I am still assimilating but ... Will try to give my 2 cents on some of the Q's you posed soon. However, probably only after end of week as my work is draining me brainless at the mo.
Bump with Taineberry in mind. Have Igors provided you with more brains for work and more? :) IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 907 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 04:30 PM
Hi. Is there any thread here about races "from the Stars" ? -I'm really interested, because that's really new for me. I know there are a lot of things about that on the net, but I thought most of that 'info' was actually disinfo lol. So I didn't read anything yet.*Every person I know has strong Sirius placements and I hope It doesn't mean something 'bad'... which makes me wonder... *Can a person actually be 'the bad/negative guy' from the stars? *E.G. Can a person with Sun+ASC+NN conjunct some stars from the Ophiuchus/DRACO constellations considered actually evil? I don't think I'm from anywhere 'up there'. Hmmm... I'd say somehow I like to be here, It's not that bad... going to the gym or playing music is nice, I like my job too. So, sometimes I think I really enjoy my stay lol. Anyway, I only have 1 GA placement(moon). So, any myth/theory or facts(?) would be interesting  No disinfo please! Thank you. .  ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~ IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5012 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 09, 2014 06:55 AM
How many of you have seen MIB 3 ?The character "Griffin" in that movie represents all Star Seeds who have taken birth maybe since 1963. The "Arc Net" protection for the Earth is a gift from Griffin, so that Earth not get ravaged by the Invasion of a Vampiric Species. I think the DNA of Star Seeds is itself a gift, to prevent the self destruction of Earth from a complete rejection of Human values. Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith represent Lyran Humans. In one Reality, they defeat the Invasion, in another timeline, they are vanquished. A subtle message, to attain success, there is a need for Time Travel. If Lyra is in the future, then THIS TIME, we won't goof up. I hope. Every positive step in one timeline has a positive outcome in another, this is yet another subtle message in MIB3.
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KarmicMoon Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Moon, Milky Way Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 09, 2014 09:36 AM
My daughter has...Mars 19 55 Cap cj M57 DSC 29 32 Leo cj Regulus 29 58 Leo MC 14 01 Sag cj GA IC 14 01 Gemini cj Rigel 16 58 Gem (I'm not sure of orbs here) Atlantis 21 51 Cap cj Sulaphet/M57 Pluto/NN midpoint is 20 39 cap Ac/mc midpoint is 21 47 Cap Sun/moon midpoint 12 24 cap possible cj Vega? Her Pallas is 4 21 Gemini and Angel 3 43 Sag, not sure if that is close enough to be considered cj Alcyone. Stellium in the 12 th house Aquarius including Sun, Node, Neptune, Jupiter, Chiron. other daughter has... Mars 9 54 Sag cj Antares 9 51 and Aldebaran 9 54 Gem Pluto 26 35 and Sun 28 05 cj GC Sun/Moon midpoint is 25 22 Sag She has a six planet stellium in Sag but 4th house I am new to fixed stars, can anyone help interpret? Thanks!
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BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 10, 2014 06:51 AM
Intriguing... I do have Sun and DNA conjunct Regulus, Hekate on Aldeberan, my Sun/Moon midpoint conjuncts Pandora (and if we count a not quite 2-degree orb, Kaali). Neptune, station direct in my chart would be the closest major body I have to the Great Attractor (1 degree or so orb, and generational).Asteroid 499 Venusia at 20 Cap 22'37" (Rx) would be the closest thing I have to M57. Sulaphat though, I'd have the closest asteroid to that being 1930 Lucifer at 22 Cap 22'14" (Rx). ...wait, forgot about Venusia and Lucifer being that close together. Intriguing morning star reference here... 2 degree orb though, not sure how meaningful that would be. IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 11, 2014 05:26 PM
I am finding it hard to reply without trying to write an entire book of background explanations, so I hope in my attempt to be short and sweet, I am not being too vague and/or simplistic… and enraging those who know that there are many things left unsaid here!!!!Disclaimer : these insights are what I have to offer at this moment; but as we all know – life is change, nothing remains in its same form, so take this as a momentary glimpse into somebody’s evolving understanding – use it if it is helpful, leave it if it is not. Firstly, let us imagine that every one of us is perfect on a soul level – no-one is greater than anyone else, as we are all perfect holograms of the perfect ONE, reflecting that light in a myriad of perfect ways. So, no point in talking about who is better than who. (ok… I know that this statement begs explanation but seriously it will take too long to explain the mechanics of it). Secondly, the creative aspect of the ONE is evolved through spirit made manifest. Unfortunately, this a huge subject in itself, so suffice to say for now that a working knowledge of quantum physics and sacred geometery provides a great basis from which to draw analogies. I cannot understand why many people feel that they have already reached the end of the road as far as reincarnation is concerned, when the universe around us will still clearly be manifesting itself for some time to come with many opportunities to participate through taking form! This seems interesting to me. Well, that is a subject for another day, I guess. Thirdly, I propose that soul awareness of our perfection and ONEness can only develop through form, as duality is needed in order to develop discernment. How can you be aware of light if you have never been aware of dark? If light was perfection and dark was not, and you lived in light, you could not say that the light did not exist just because you had not seen the dark; but you could say that you were not aware of light existing until you had seen the dark. Fourthly, the capacity of the soul to grow in awareness and creativity depends upon the limitations inherent in the form it occupies. For example : let us imagine a genius who spends the first 30 years of his life making astounding discoveries that benefit all humanity, then … oops… an accident and he suffers severe brain damage. Is he any less of a soul now? No. Simply less of his soul can express itself though the vehicle it now occupies. Focusing on just these four things, I’ll skip a few million other points, including some complicated goings-on concerning galactic history and an encyclopedia regarding the anatomy of spirit in all its glory , and jump to what I think about the starseeds. For one thing, I propose that we all have star origins in the sense that we are jumped-up primates with DNA that has been tinkered with by galactic visitors for a variety of reasons. Starseeds/CWs are born into normal earth bodies, if you cut them open they look like everyone else ... and because they inhabit the same type of vehicles/forms (bodies) on earth as their "earth" brothers and sisters, all have the SAME potential to evolve their consciousness/awareness to a level where they no longer need the intervention of an Angel of the Presence (aka Guardian Angel/ Holy Intelligence) to help unite their lower triad (form) with that of their higher triad (spirit). The Angel of the Presence is present in all transactions between the human form (partical) and spirit(wave), but is not focally attentive until we awaken to its presence. When we awaken, this becomes the presence by which the lower triad becomes conscious of the higher triad and vice versa as a unique point of consciousness of the ONE. Through this we can gradually build our own Antahkarana thus allowing the Angel of the Presence to eventually withdraw. This leads to the death of the egoic self, but also the capacity for conscious ensoulment within a limited field of form (amongst other things). And from this … soul awareness and creativity can develop in the manifest realm; the line between matter and spirit begins to blur. The lower triad (the temporary repository of manifest experience) feeds into the higher triad (the permanent repository for the unique expression of the soul) and this enables it to become aware of itself (see above) in higher and higher realms until the point of full integration with the one, aka the Omega Point (the Great Attractor???) Back to starseeds – the only difference between a “starseed” soul or a “cosmic wanderer” and a “earth soul” is that starseed souls have historically had access to different forms/bodies/vehicles to those that have evolved only here on earth. (**Quick note: it may well be possible that ALL of us have cosmic experience, but “starseeds” are just those who happen to have the potential to remember it better… IDK for sure). Astrologically, the starseed soul in whichever definition you prefer, will be revealed through specific starseed indicators which are currently being explored on LL on various threads, including some suggestions made on this one. Either way, being a starseed is no indication of having a better or more advanced soul than another, it just means that they have had some different experiences based on the different bodies/forms they have ensouled. (see the very first point I made, combined with another concept I'm battling to find the words to describe in a few words so I won't try now... except to say it involves the role of experience and the conditions under which it can be integrated into the expression of higher self.) When it comes down to brass tacks, the starseed currently having an earth or series of earth experiences has to deal with the very same form limitations that every other person has to deal with based on the current state of activation of our collective DNA. Of course there is some variation within the normal distribution of human performance. But… Any awareness based on otherworldly experience remains useless and locked in the higher triad until the Antahkarana is developed and, in the interim, can only be accessed gnostically in the heart chakra via the intervention of the Angel of Presence. The starseed’s soul memory is important, because it holds knowledge of both beneficial and catastrophic events occurring in our galactic history, which can be utilized to both protect and develop earth through various means such as initiating the 100th monkey effect to steer the collective out of trouble wherever possible. Although the starseed cannot physically “do” the things that they could do based on a soul memory of a more “able” body, these memories (when awakened) facilitate the yearning to unlock the spiritual blueprints that quicken the DNA evolution which will gradually raise the limitations inherent in our current physical form as well as providing better tools to reconnect with our higher triad (if that is how we choose to use our evolving forms). This is not to say it wouldn’t happen anyway without the presence of starseeds driving the process, but it would happen much slower. Well, this is ideally how it should work … but it all predicated on the notion that the starseed actually wants to raise their vibration and is motivated to do all the inner work described above. The only “type” of being who does not fall into this category is the true alien who is visiting earth, but who is born with entirely different DNA functioning when compared to humans currently evolved on earth. These beings may have capacities well beyond our own and a geneticist would be able to note measurable differences, even if they “look” the same outwardly. These beings are not starseeds or cosmic wanderers. They may be spiritual masters, highly connected and evolved souls in advanced forms OR … not …. As the presence of a high functioning lower triad does not necessarily equate to simultaneous spiritual elevation. Free choice.
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GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 907 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 11, 2014 08:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarmicMoon: My daughter has...Mars 19 55 Cap cj M57 DSC 29 32 Leo cj Regulus 29 58 Leo MC 14 01 Sag cj GA IC 14 01 Gemini cj Rigel 16 58 Gem (I'm not sure of orbs here) Atlantis 21 51 Cap cj Sulaphet/M57 Pluto/NN midpoint is 20 39 cap Ac/mc midpoint is 21 47 Cap Sun/moon midpoint 12 24 cap possible cj Vega? Her Pallas is 4 21 Gemini and Angel 3 43 Sag, not sure if that is close enough to be considered cj Alcyone. Stellium in the 12 th house Aquarius including Sun, Node, Neptune, Jupiter, Chiron.
Oh my... Those placements are impressive, I mean... you may not even be her mother/father lol  Ok, sorry dumb joke...  Sadly, I have no idea what could those placements mean, they are pretty strong. But I'm pretty sure you should keep that girl away from the "materialistic society" and also away from the horrible Subsistence Economy most humans live in. I think she will be very happy if she does what her heart/soul wants to  ======================================== What I find really interesting is her DC conj Regulus. ººººº I've seen some people in LL with many space indicators conj their Descendants. Like (8958)Stargazer - (2365)Interkosmos - (2069)Hubble, etc. I always wanted to know what do those conjunctions with the DC mean. I hope you get some input about that. ~Have a Good Day.  ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5572 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 12, 2014 01:55 AM
Taineberry, do excuse the superlatives, yet again, but this thread is providing some seriously fantastic info. quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: I am finding it hard to reply without trying to write an entire book of background explanations, so I hope in my attempt to be short and sweet, I am not being too vague and/or simplistic… and enraging those who know that there are many things left unsaid here!!!!
You may indeed need to write a book, but this is a good and clear start. Inevitably, this raises many queries. If you have the answers, which, as you've mentioned, you discovered through your own meditations, then please share. quote:
Firstly, let us imagine that every one of us is perfect on a soul level – no-one is greater than anyone else, as we are all perfect holograms of the perfect ONE, reflecting that light in a myriad of perfect ways. So, no point in talking about who is better than who. (ok… I know that this statement begs explanation but seriously it will take too long to explain the mechanics of it).
Yes, so important to remember this, and not hard to understand. quote: Secondly, the creative aspect of the ONE is evolved through spirit made manifest. Unfortunately, this a huge subject in itself, so suffice to say for now that a working knowledge of quantum physics and sacred geometery provides a great basis from which to draw analogies. I cannot understand why many people feel that they have already reached the end of the road as far as reincarnation is concerned, when the universe around us will still clearly be manifesting itself for some time to come with many opportunities to participate through taking form! This seems interesting to me. Well, that is a subject for another day, I guess.
Ancient Indian texts have written extensively about cycles of manifestation, which never end. So, souls that many be young in this particular cycle or sub-cycle have been young, maturing or old, good or bad, innumerable times. And thus will it continue. This notion is a great leveller and, as you said earlier, there is "no point in talking about who is better than who". quote: Thirdly, I propose that soul awareness of our perfection and ONEness can only develop through form, as duality is needed in order to develop discernment. How can you be aware of light if you have never been aware of dark? If light was perfection and dark was not, and you lived in light, you could not say that the light did not exist just because you had not seen the dark; but you could say that you were not aware of light existing until you had seen the dark.
Coud this be the reason alone for the endless cycles of manifestation? Why would the experience of duality need to be renewed? But this is the great question - why existence in the first place? No, I don't expect an answer, but any further thoughts would be most welcome. quote: Fourthly, the capacity of the soul to grow in awareness and creativity depends upon the limitations inherent in the form it occupies. For example : let us imagine a genius who spends the first 30 years of his life making astounding discoveries that benefit all humanity, then … oops… an accident and he suffers severe brain damage. Is he any less of a soul now? No. Simply less of his soul can express itself though the vehicle it now occupies. Focusing on just these four things, I’ll skip a few million other points, including some complicated goings-on concerning galactic history and an encyclopedia regarding the anatomy of spirit in all its glory , and jump to what I think about the starseeds. For one thing, I propose that we all have star origins in the sense that we are jumped-up primates with DNA that has been tinkered with by galactic visitors for a variety of reasons.
"Galactic History" would be a great topic topic for a book, and dare I say, a thread on LL. One needed for the Reference Library! quote: Starseeds/CWs are born into normal earth bodies, if you cut them open they look like everyone else ... and because they inhabit the same type of vehicles/forms (bodies) on earth as their "earth" brothers and sisters, all have the SAME potential to evolve their consciousness/awareness to a level where they no longer need the intervention of an Angel of the Presence (aka Guardian Angel/ Holy Intelligence) to help unite their lower triad (form) with that of their higher triad (spirit). The Angel of the Presence is present in all transactions between the human form (partical) and spirit(wave), but is not focally attentive until we awaken to its presence. When we awaken, this becomes the presence by which the lower triad becomes conscious of the higher triad and vice versa as a unique point of consciousness of the ONE. Through this we can gradually build our own Antahkarana thus allowing the Angel of the Presence to eventually withdraw. This leads to the death of the egoic self, but also the capacity for conscious ensoulment within a limited field of form (amongst other things). And from this … soul awareness and creativity can develop in the manifest realm; the line between matter and spirit begins to blur. The lower triad (the temporary repository of manifest experience) feeds into the higher triad (the permanent repository for the unique expression of the soul) and this enables it to become aware of itself (see above) in higher and higher realms until the point of full integration with the one, aka the Omega Point (the Great Attractor???)
Some more explanations needed here for -- 'Antahkakrana', "conscious ensoulment within a limited field of form". So, the purpose of our lives is to become aware of our true nature. With greater awareness of its contrast with the dark, as you mentioned above? quote: When it comes down to brass tacks, the starseed currently having an earth or series of earth experiences has to deal with the very same form limitations that every other person has to deal with based on the current state of activation of our collective DNA. Of course there is some variation within the normal distribution of human performance. But… Any awareness based on otherworldly experience remains useless and locked in the higher triad until the Antahkarana is developed and, in the interim, can only be accessed gnostically in the heart chakra via the intervention of the Angel of Presence.
Please explain the last 3 lines and terms - the higher triad. Also why the heart chakra more than the ajna chakra (third eye)? ps - It would be really helpful if you could start a thread for the Ref Library on "Starseeds" or "A brief intro to Galactic History and Starseeds" or any topic related to the above. (Start a thread here, even if with a single post, and ask Randall to move it to the library). Firstly, please let Randall know that you would like to be a contributor. Once the thread is placed there, you can add and amend at your own pace. Much of it can be copied from existing threads here. Hopefully iQ too will add to your thread, or offer alternative viewpoints. The responses to comments and queries here can generate some of the material.
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ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 1126 From: Elysium Registered: Jul 2013
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posted June 12, 2014 06:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: There is a celestial object known as the Starseed Ring Nebula (aka M57 or Messier 57) in the constellation Lyra which has special significance for all Starseeds and Cosmic Wanderers. It is located at 20 degrees Capricorn between the Lyran fixed stars Sheliak and Sulaphat. The reason why this beautiful nebula is so special is because it is the physical remnants of a super nova explosion of the Lyran homeland which, in galactic myth, was the original location of all humanoid races before it was destroyed by the Draco's, thus triggering the diaspora to new planets such as those civilizations located in the Pleiades, Andromeda, Casseopia, Sirius amongst many others. Thus, strong contacts with the Ring Nebula literally points to the birthplace of humanoid star origins. This is the place from which many streams of consciousness, rays of extraterrestrial starseed races, began their evolutionary journey. If you have a strong aspect with Sun, Moon, a personal planet, Sun/Moon midpoint, an Angle or a Node with the Lyran Ring Nebula M57 as well as strong aspects to one of the Royal Stars (Regulus, Alderbaran, Formalhaut, Antares) and the Great Attractor, I believe this is proof of a humanoid starseed identity. For example : Sun conjunct/opposite M57 :Your essence and sense of personal power is strongly identified with your star origin. Moon conjunct/opposite M57 : instinctual understanding/ subliminal memories of your extraterrestial origins. South Node conjunct M57 : A highly evolved starseed/ cosmic wanderer who brings to this incarnation past life memories, knowledge and understanding of star origins which underpin current life purpose and direction. North Node conjunct M57 : Aspiring towards an understanding of star origins being prominent in shaping life purpose/direction. Prominent alignments with the Lyran Ring Nebula can also indicate involvement with the music of the spheres - the use of natural astronomically and resonant harmonics for healing, illumination, and for greater evolutionary purpose. You might find, for example that a person with South Node conjunct M57 brings to this incarnation a natural aptitude in this area, based on past life extra-terrestrial experience. Similarly, strong contacts are often found in the charts of musicians, artists and those involved with arts and sciences where the intention is to use harmonics of light, sound, and geometry for the expansion of consciousness. In addition, these individuals may be gifted in understanding the relationship between geometry and time--all working intelligently together. Forty octaves up from our middle musical scale lies the spectrum of visible color--light-sound musical harmonics originate from the mathematical unfoldment of time in geometric proportion. M57 inspires multi-spectral creative expression--a multiplicity of opportunity for fulfillment when individuality is creatively amalgamated into a greater expression than one could achieve alone. M57 also holds the memory pattern that unifies our diversity--reminding us that all rays of color and creed ultimately comprise and fulfill the unbounded expression of One Unified Creative Intelligence. Use tight orbs - for Nodes, angles and luminaries - less than 1.5 or maybe 2 degrees; for other personal planets less than 1 degree. Also important in the constellation Lyra are the fixed stars Sheliak at 18 Capricorn 53 and Sulaphat at 21 Capricorn 55. These are known as the points or horns of the Tortoise Lyre, which is the structure that carries the resonant strings of the harp which is the the Ring Nebula itself. Although important alignments with these points are not in themselves starseed indicators, they do carry their own Lyran symbolism. Sheliak embodies the wisdom of light/sound harmonics. Physically, this extremely fast rotating binary star radiates a remarkable and spectacular optical show of brilliantly changing color. Sulaphat on the other hand embodies geometric resonance in form and the ancient wisdom of the Turtle. The other important star in Lyra is the alpha fixed star Vega at 15 Capricorn 19 - this points to where the re-unifying harmonic spectra of the Elohim (the shining ones) culminate--a new home for some upon completion of their galactic missions. Vega is stargate to Mansion Universes of Light--and represents the fulfillment and radiance of starseed missions completed. If strongly aspected along with other Royal Star contacts, this could indicate a lineline in which the influence of the Elohim is strong, along with aspirations to use this to complete the mission assigned to this incarnation. With a South Node contact to Vega, the individual may even be a fully ascended and conscious Elohim starseed master on an earth mission, assuming that there there are also strong alignments with the Great Attractor, Royal Stars and the M57. A word on the Great Attractor - this is the most powerful point in the Universe, so powerful that it makes the Galactic Centre look miniscule. It is at 14 Sagittarius. While the Galactic Centre is the "sun of our sun", the central rotating point of the Milky Way ... the Great Attractor is a supercluster of 100,000 galaxies 250 million light years from our solar system. It is the grand central sun of a much larger group of galaxies- and it is a point that we are all being pulled towards (we are literally hurling in that direction at insane speeds). In astrology the great attractor represents the key to the mystery of the Universe. it's a very intense point that has mystical and metaphysical properties. As such, the Great Attractor should feature strongly - preferably a tightly orbed conjunction or opposition with personal planets, angles, nodes or sun/moon midpoint in all Starseed charts where there is awakening as it points to divine harmony and the fulfulment of our spiritual destiny.
This explains so much in my chart, as I have many odd things occurring in my chart, and lots of conjunctions to major fixed stars. I also have many GA aspects along with GC aspects. Thank you for posting this  IP: Logged | |