posted December 02, 2015 06:24 PM              

However, having a Virgo Moon and a tendency to worry, I will say that I have Pluto at 8 Libra (as I would have to imagine many people do).

The odd thing is that my husband's MC is at 7 Libra, my son's Pluto is at 7 Capricorn, and my son's asteroid Karma is at 7 Aries.

Anyone have anything to say about this that doesn't reek of doom and gloom? I don't care for the doom and gloom declarations, but I'm open to level-headed interpretations.

posted December 02, 2015 08:50 PM            

Tied up with Mars, it results in increased power of thought, tending sometimes to sarcasm and polemics."

posted December 02, 2015 09:44 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
I really get worried about this one. Well, the star had moved from 8' Libra by now, I think it is currently at 10' Libra, but the description of a "widower" if it conjuncts a personal planet was confirmed with a friend of mine who has Venus at 8' Libra, and his wife recently died of cancer at the age of 38 , leaving two small babies in his hands and him a widower at a very young age. So bad.

My guy's Mars is at 7'50 Libra and I wonder if........ah, no.

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1950 Nov 11 9li15 18"
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Cannot push those stars any faster than the GC generally speaking.

posted December 02, 2015 09:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I really get worried about this one. Well, the star had moved from 8' Libra by now, I think it is currently at 10' Libra, but the description of a "widower" if it conjuncts a personal planet was confirmed with a friend of mine who has Venus at 8' Libra, and his wife recently died of cancer at the age of 38 , leaving two small babies in his hands and him a widower at a very young age. So bad.

My guy's Mars is at 7'50 Libra and I wonder if........ah, no.

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Wow this is something.

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posted December 02, 2015 10:04 PM              

I wonder why Venus? I guess the widow/widower aspect of love and marriage?

posted December 02, 2015 10:13 PM              

My dad, who has been married twice, is retired, and has been happily (reasonably) married to my step-mom for over 30 years (and my mom is thankfully also still living), has his Libra Neptune/Venus conjunction like so:

(Sun is chart ruler, and Moon is in Pisces.)
Vindemiatrix at 9.12 Libra
Neptune at 10.19 Libra
Venus at 11.05 Libra

That's rather close, I think?
His Sun is at 4.25 Libra.

I don't know, his Venus isn't conjunct by less than 1.4 degrees, and Neptune isn't exactly a personal planet, although he does have the Pisces Moon.

posted December 02, 2015 10:31 PM            

the original degree of this stars is 8'50 libra

it's currently at approx 10' libra, but if we precess the fixed stars, then we have to move our natal planets as well along with the fixed stars. so, i still regard it as 8'50 libra for simplicity

its been said that planets in 8' libra are the ones affected. your father doesnt have this aspect, thou.

posted December 02, 2015 10:43 PM              

With my Virgo Moon, I worry as well (although doom and gloom predictive astrology really grates on my nerves, too).

I mean, my son's Sun is at 24 Taurus, but I have a lot of relatives who have lived reasonably normal lives, at least into middle-age, and their Suns are at 26 Taurus (as an example).

I don't know what causes such things to manifest...

I do have a friend (my best friend, as a matter of fact) who was widowed at a very young age (19 years old), and she does have a Libra stellium. I'm not sure why this only just occurred to me, maybe because I block out the tragedies in my life, until I'm ready to deal with them.

Her chart is as such:

Vindemiatrix at 9.35
MC at 9.47
Venus at 11.29.

Her Pluto is also at 7.08, which is of course generational.

I don't know...

posted December 02, 2015 11:54 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
darn

I wonder if astrotheme has celebrities search with planets in a degree.

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Seriously.
If not, I suppose we'll have to do our own research. Most Libras I know, coincidentally, are born either September 28, or October 11. It's downright odd.

posted December 03, 2015 12:35 AM            

where is your Virgo Moon, what degree? I wonder if it is on my stellium...and the Sun?

posted December 03, 2015 12:40 AM              

He's been married to the same woman who was his high school sweetheart (sort of) for decades.

But...weirdly, Courtney Love's asteroid Spirit is conjunct Vindemiatrix by minutes.

Eh. I don't know, I'm looking at all the Libra/Virgo people I have charts for, or people who are widows/widowers.

posted December 03, 2015 12:48 AM            

Here are some notes I had scribbled into my notebook, but I can't locate my ref to credit the source.

Death of a partner (dramatic)
Betrayal
Helps mental concentration
Works (in employment) for architects or business men
Increased power of thought
Tending sometimes to polemics and sarcasm

(Sometimes death isn't a literal death. It can be as mild as a change that (you or) your partner might not even have noticed? )

Helps with mental concentration powers would always be a bliss-opportunity for me. The polemic speech with a touch of sarcasm seems to get pronounced for me during certain transits.

posted December 03, 2015 12:56 AM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
hahaha..yoohh you are cracking me up

where is your Virgo Moon, what degree? I wonder if it is on my stellium...and the Sun?

btw, my guy is an Aries BUT with a Virgo Moon and Rising.
He is adorable in a peculiar kind of way. I enjoy his little quirks, but only because my Virgo Sun gets them.
It is just cute watching him smearing with dedication a sizable portion of hand sanitizer on the exact spot on his skin where someone happened to touch him by accident.

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Ahahaha! My Leo husband has Virgo Mercury, and he does the hand sanitizer thing, ha. My Pisces Sun is like "Pfft." But I laugh in a good way.

My Moon is at 5 Virgo, and my NN is at 5 Sag. My Sun is at 6 Pisces (the weird thing there is that my Sun is at 6.45, and my Moon is at 5.46).

posted December 03, 2015 12:58 AM              

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Originally posted by mirage29:
F.S. Vindemiatrix
I have this at 9.19'36" Libra H10.

Here are some notes I had scribbled into my notebook, but I can't locate my ref to credit the source.

Death of a partner (dramatic)
Betrayal
Helps mental concentration
Works (in employment) for architects or business men
Increased power of thought
Tending sometimes to polemics and sarcasm

(Sometimes death isn't a literal death. It can be as mild as a change that (you or) your partner might not even have noticed? )

Helps with mental concentration powers would always be a bliss-opportunity for me. The polemic speech with a touch of sarcasm seems to get pronounced for me during certain transits.

(Don't worry? ... I've got one of those Virgo Moons too. I understand. Take good care!)

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posted December 03, 2015 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Ahahaha! My Leo husband has Virgo Mercury, and he does the hand sanitizer thing, ha. My Pisces Sun is like "Pfft." But I laugh in a good way.

My Moon is at 5 Virgo, and my NN is at 5 Sag. My Sun is at 6 Pisces (the weird thing there is that my Sun is at 6.45, and my Moon is at 5.46).

Where is your Virgo stuff at?

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oh, there you go

posted December 03, 2015 11:35 AM              

For me, the square has manifested (twice) as a time when other women are particularly unpleasant, or when I just don't feel as confident as I should, or could.