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Topic: Juno versus Pluto in Synastry
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7174 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 23, 2017 11:32 PM
Pluto is a real love marker without a doubt but its also IMO a star crossed lovers marker so its a complicated fellow often leading to intense encounters or relationships that transform you but that also involve pain at some point, such encounters often end and don't make it to marriage but definitely lead to a lot of personal growth as they bring to the surface parts of us that we need to examine, transform and let go of. Strong plutonic relationships carry the energy of erotic love always bc it has mars conjunct eros exact squaring the nodes. This coupled with Pyramus conjunct Thesbe in its chart gives a strong sense of urgency to come together and act on that strong desire, like its life or death, the result of this is healing through erotic love but when you cannot act on the desire to be together there is a lot of pain since it feels like an urgent matter of life or death. The person must learn to let go of the desire in order to heal. There is both healing by giving in to the desire and healing by letting go of the desire to be with them and accepting the death of outcome your mind was attached to. I have come to this conclusion by looking at Pluto's discovery chart and my own personal experiences.Now looking at Juno's discovery chart I get a different feeling from it, I can see why its known as the asteroid of marriage. Lets start by pointing out it has Sun conjunct Harmonia exact conjunct the 5H cusp, with Moon conjunct exact the IC and Venus conjunct Southnode exact. It also has an exact sextile between Pluto and Agapenor and Chiron conjunct Agapenor. The fact that it has Sun conjunct Harmonia says a lot, Juno relationships make you feel safe, peaceful and calm; all things that are great for a long term marriage. Unlike pluto which often comes with anxiety, obsession, fear, insecurities. Juno's discovery chart has an exact trine between Isis and Osiris! and Sun conjunct Harmonia and Horus. Further Saturn is exalted in Libra in Juno's Discovery chart. I could see how with Horus, Isis and Osiris featuring in the chart like it does that this is the kind of relationship that people may involve the church in if that is important to their faith. I will post shortly Juno's Discovery chart. Is Juno involved in the synastry with the person you are married with? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7174 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 23, 2017 11:37 PM
Here it is! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7174 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 23, 2017 11:56 PM
I will start:My husband's Juno conjunct Alma conjuncts My Sun. (His Juno by 1d and his Alma by 0d01) My Juno sextiles his Moon by 1d. ------------------------ With my Ex whom we talked about getting married, he almost proposed: His Juno semi sextile exact my Mercury His Juno trined my Northnode by 2d My Juno opposed exact his Chart Ruler Mercury IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6699 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 24, 2017 08:15 AM
I like your researches on the discovery charts, they are like the birth charts for each planet.In the Juno chart, Sun opposes Pluto, so it gives a Plutonic feeling as well and Juno relationships can be quite obsessive too, but not in the way Pluto relationships are, still...the urge to be together is strong IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7174 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 24, 2017 12:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: I like your researches on the discovery charts, they are like the birth charts for each planet.In the Juno chart, Sun opposes Pluto, so it gives a Plutonic feeling as well and Juno relationships can be quite obsessive too, but not in the way Pluto relationships are, still...the urge to be together is strong
Great observation about sun opposite pluto, its part of the mystic rectangle which also involves a grand trine bt pluto, mars and jupiter conjunct valentine. This pluto though opposes sun conjunct harmonia and I feel harmonia has a real nice effect on pluto like a soothing effect, like it helps manage the plutonic energy with more ease. I have tr pluto conjunct exact my harmonia right now. You still experience plutonic symptoms but the harmonia helps contain and manage better the negative side effects. I just noticed that Juno has basically an unaspected Neptune except for the quintile to North node which maybe helps the couple find creative ways to move towards their northnode. Uranus looks pretty tamed except for that square to mars but it is too wide to count I feel (10d orb), adding to that theme of stability. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7174 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 25, 2017 03:57 PM
My husband's Psyche conjuncts my Northnode and both Sentagon his Juno (which conjuncts my Sun).My northnode sentagon his Juno by 0d08 (soulmate whom I am destined to get married with) With my ex his Psyche conjuncts my Northnode by 1d and his MC but it sentagon's my Sun by 0d16. However it does not aspect his Juno. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3005 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 26, 2017 12:35 AM
HypatiaThis is very interesting! Very fascinated! As I have Juno/Eros square Pluto exact ..... Kind of sucks to know that Pluto ultimately leads to death, rebirth, and transsformation especially desire... What you just said right now about Pluto is exactly what I've always experienced myself too but now that I have better look to this aspect in my own chart I feel that my relationships especially to the people I commit too will eventually always die. there is a conflict with that in me. And right if there's no sex it has to come to an end...  Thanks for posting the discovery chart ! Defently saw the exact opposition from sun to Pluto. Interesting that Juno is in Aquarius in the 9th. And venus conjunct moon conjunct Southnode. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3005 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 26, 2017 12:41 AM
I like the mystic rectangle there. How do you feel about them? ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th HouseIP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 698 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016
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posted June 26, 2017 07:38 PM
Please post all discussions related to asteroids in the Asteroids Forum!IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7174 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 26, 2017 07:48 PM
I asked people to post their synastry aspects involving Juno at the end of the thread! Its a synastry question...!You really like to move threads. I feel the Interpersonal thread needs more mods who respond to questions instead of moving threads that still meet the requirements of been in Interpersonal. I put a lot of thought into were to put a thread yet they keep getting moved lol IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted June 26, 2017 11:09 PM
I had two ex-wives. With both of them, our Juno was conjunct. It is a sexual aspect. Like fire. You don't want someone to leave when you have that.IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 698 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016
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posted June 27, 2017 01:36 PM
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Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 698 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016
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posted June 27, 2017 01:39 PM
Yes, and Juno is an asteroid! Please don't make this personal, I am just doing my job as a mod and as far as I know, topics centered around asteroids, whether they involve synastry or not, should go in this forum. For any sort of change to this rule, Randall, Ami and I (as the more active mods) would need to come to some sort of agreement.I understand you put a lot of work into your posts and that is appreciated. At the same time, the discussion will continue in the correct location and nobody is closing your thread. You are a mod yourself so please respect the forum rules instead of creating the same issue and making a complaint when your thread gets moved... Yes, you know I agree we do need more mods over there. I don't have as much time now to answer questions but at least I'm still doing my job as a mod. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3005 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 27, 2017 02:59 PM
I have Pluto conjunct NORTH NODE DW square Juno in synastry. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3005 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 27, 2017 03:03 PM
I did a astrology reading for a client of mine she is in her 60s which means she is the Pluto in leo generation. She has had a long affair with her friend who is also her generation (Pluto in leo) they have venus conjunct Pluto in leo in the composite and both of there name asteroids are conjunct in synastry DW!!! It's crazy!!!They have been in each other's lives since high school. He left her for his ex wife who he has a daughter with. This man divorced twice and she is widowed now and they have always been on and off for so many years. Thy have no NORTH NODE aspects though in synastry but she doesn't know her time of birth. So. I guess Pluto can really make two people be drawn to eachother but obstacles are always in the way of two people forming a union. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 81409 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 27, 2017 04:33 PM
Thanks for doing your job so well, BL. For now, I'm trying to build up the posts in the Interpersonal Astrology Forum, so if threads are related to synastry, I'm going to keep them there or move them to there, even though they may normally have fit better in another Forum. IP: Logged |