posted May 10, 2020 05:14 AM            

IC is at 22.03 3rd house
and Juno is on the right side at 25.20 Virgo 3rd house.
so opposite to MC at -3•17a. (If that an acceptable conjunction for a big but minor asteroid ? I read somewhere 3-4 degrees was still ok.)

Aspects Juno makes:

posted May 11, 2020 06:32 PM            

You are using a different house system than I'm used to working with.

{IC as cusp of H4}
Juno and your Moon Libra there in the 4th in Virgo might have you value the more 'traditional' roles of being the wife, mother, cookie-baker, arts-n-crafts. Perhaps, an all-around support-mate for those in the 'home' and dear to your Heart.

Juno also might be a charming Hostess, and likes to follow etiquettes! Hospitality.
… Scented candles, adornments.
.. Makes it a sanctuary.

Juno also has been known as one who stands up for women's rights.
Women's support groups. She's a symbol for the powerless .. the victims, minorities, the disabled, battered wives and abused kids.
.. In the 4th house representing 'ancestry', perhaps you had a grandmother or mom, or someone in your maternal line, who did?

Juno also represents the qualities you would seek in an 'ideal' mate.

Juno biquintile Chiron .. Biquintile points to a natural talent you may have (and not know you do)… Talent would be connected to both those areas of your life {the House}, in some way.

Again, you use a different house system than I do. You are using whole or equal houses?

I don't have "working-experience" with those.
{I use the tropical Placidus--
Virgo Moon here (near your Juno). Love the extra little details it gives.}

So, for however it is you do astrology houses, look also at the 'house' that your Chiron and Juno is in.
Connect the two for revealing an ability or creativity with both.

posted May 11, 2020 09:50 PM            

Quote----
Demetra George & Douglas Bloch (1986, 2003)
"Asteroid Goddesses: The Mythology, Psychology, and Astrology of the Re-emerging Feminine."
New Edition w Updated Ephemerides of 16 asteroids 1930-2050.
Ibis Press

Juno-Jupiter from page 180
The 'relatedness' principle {Juno} combines with
'the expansive/broadening urge' {Jupiter}.

This combination emphasizes the mythic process symbolized by Juno, and Jupiter as idealized husband and wife.

Harmonious aspects
describe a search for truth-and-meaning in-and-through relationships.
Often, these individuals will experience the desire for a complete "meeting of the minds" on mental, emotional, sexual, and spiritual levels.
They may also choose to work with a partner for the advancement of a shared philosophical, educational, or religious belief system.

Juno-Jupiter individuals are "attracted to" philosophical and adventuresome types.
. . .
If the projections is overdone,
'the partner' may be arrogant, self-righteous, and extravagant.

The resolution of challenges lies in the development of a mutually agreeable moral and philosophical code which allows for balance and equality within a partnership.

For the health of the planet, this balance should extend to relationships between all men and women.

posted May 16, 2020 11:24 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
[b] .....a grandmother or mom, or someone in your maternal line...

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posted May 23, 2020 05:04 PM            

I don't know anything about your life...
(I don't hang out in threads with the same people you do.)

Continuing along same thoughts behind the women in your matriarchal lines --

Virgo IC 22.03

Fixed Star Alkies is located on your IC.
This can indicate having special talents that are handed-down through the generations. It appears in what you create.
Also has a mystical and special feeling to it
that surrounds an individual with this star prominent.

Fixed Star Denebola
Is about 'individualism'.. doing something unique or special in some manner. Avoids the mainstream and prefers to do things for minorities, or those on the edges of society. {marginalized people}. Can be seen as a rebel by others, because of ability to see things differently to everyone else.

{lost the reference from which this comes--
copied from scribbles written a long time ago in my notebook.}
Sending an etheric thank you to the author.

In Vedic Astrology, this area of space corresponds to the nakshatra called UttaraPhalguni,
also known as the Star of Patronage.

Words that describe this nakshatra area fits the kinds of things you said your grandmother and mother did. One of its many characteristics has a wanting to alleviate suffering in society.

Grants 'favor' with others.
Be careful of people with bad reputations.

The degree of your Juno {as a symbol of standing for the powerless, women, etc .. listed in above posts} falls within this part of the sky.

What a legacy!, should you decide that you'd want to get involved with something like that some day. (IF you had the inkling.)

Your Juno Virgo 25+ H4 trines Jupiter Taurus 27+ in the 11th. 11th has to do with 'groups'.

posted May 27, 2020 09:27 AM            

« Or perhaps Juno telling us about public service. Mahatma Gandhi has Juno exactly — to the minute — on his IC, his roots. It’s the object closest to any angle in his chart, therefore strong. So maybe Juno is about serving the nation. Serving the people we’d see through the position of the Moon, but the state might be Juno’s domain.« 

Juno can be about serving the community

posted May 27, 2020 02:01 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by viviette:
Just found this :

« Or perhaps Juno telling us about public service. Mahatma Gandhi has Juno exactly — to the minute — on his IC, his roots. It’s the object closest to any angle in his chart, therefore strong. So maybe Juno is about serving the nation. Serving the people we’d see through the position of the Moon, but the state might be Juno’s domain.« 

Juno can be about serving the community

I know we are talking about the IC here but the article also mentions the AC Juno and
5 popes have had Juno on the AC !

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Good for you for finding and realizing that!

This is part of what I've been quoting for you.

Transiting Jupiter (rx) in Capricorn 27+ in your 7th House cap is trine your natal Jupiter Taurus 27+ in H11. So there's the energy of a grand earth trine to your Virgo IC 22+ and Juno 25+ in H4. Your Libra Moon 4+ is in your Virgo H4 also. Your Ascendant is Cancer. Cancer is ruled by The Moon. Your Moon Libra {Equality} is in your 4th, which is the natural Cancer house.

Cancer and 4th strongly point at the past, and, females.

While Venus retrogrades through your 12th house, why don't you contact your mom, your grandmother, and find out MORE about their pasts... especially in light of the community work they both did.

If you want, you could write a little article or paper about your maternal line. How they helped people. Maybe later publish it somewhere?

posted June 09, 2020 11:14 AM            

Juno could represent a standing Loyality -
to Other {person/group, chosen-cause, project}.

posted June 13, 2020 11:21 AM            

Neptune in the 6th IS an angel of mercy!!

Stay with your creative side, AND you can always decide on something 'small' and not too strenuous for yourself, in the Service fields. A little volunteer work goes Far for those organizations that rely on free labors of Love.

I did lots of volunteer work in my own life.
You can meet the Best People in that kind of atmosphere.

Who knows?,, You could attract a special friend that way.

People who give of themselves 'selflessly', to the Cause of another, would certainly have empathy? Would enhance the prospects of your meeting someone who would treat YOU well.

Here's Hoping!!!

posted June 13, 2020 03:38 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by viviette:
Yes indeed Mirage, my gran was a fine figure in the community helping the poor and my mom ran a women’s diet clinic before Weightwatchers started, was a health visitor and devoted nurse.

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Hello viviette

Juno conjunction IC, the legacy of the past also has a link with the retrograde phase of Juno which occurred recently in Libra, relations, unions ... I was interested in the meetings of Juno and Jupiter (Hera and Zeus in the Olympian pantheon) especially the conjunctions, natal and synastry marks a life in the existence of a woman and a man. thank you both, I really enjoyed this exchange in conscience and knowledge ...

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posted June 15, 2020 03:38 PM            

With you having had a family member (in nursing) die, then certainly, your parents message was validated. They worried about you emotionally too-- about being "exposed" to suffering of others. It's fantastic when you have the advice of people who know, love and care about you.

You had a sensitive soul, though.
It's good that you could be moved by the plight of other people.
Gave them your last meal in one situation? awww.

With your parents and sister NOT supporting you to follow the path you had wanted, perhaps it put those dreams aside-- They could rise again, and you'd have the chance to try out what you dreamed.

With the Red Cross idea, they were saying that it was the grandmother who had overly influenced you. Ah. I see.

Astrologically,
I found that you also have a "Ceres-Saturn-Sun" conjunction. Some reading I did about your chart mentioned those aspects, and FIT the dynamics of your story quite well.

Astrology is indeed amazing.

Your Taurus boyfriend wants to take care of you, and give you an easy life? .. Wow, who could really turn that down, right? Especially in these days when finances can be hard to come-by.

Perhaps when you've settled together, you would have the finances and time to pursue some of your childhood interests-- music/art lessons.

quote "spirituality includes taking care of yourself not martyring yourself"

Yeah, your Neptune in 6th could lend itself TO being the 'martyr'. I personally know someone who has that placement, and she is tremendously busy at taking care of everybody else, a diligent family member for those who fell ill and needed to be taken in for nursing them back to health. Things is, she needs to pull back every once in a while, and spends some time in 'isolation in nature', in order to build her strength back up. Saw that happen to her several times over the years.

That can be hard. You need to be able to monitor your energies, and know what your own body limits are (6th house).

Good thing your boyfriend will keep an eye on how 'balanced' your life will be. You have a caretaker.

There are a LOT of heavy needs in the volunteer sectors. Charity organizations (churches) are serving SOOO many needs even around the world.

When I took up the volunteer position I had, someone {extremely caring about me} said 'why' would I want to expose myself to lower-vibrations, and the thick of suffering. I definitely very much appreciated their act of care in saying that to me then.
And I experienced what they warned, as being true for me.
When I started serving that agency, I heard stories that would wake me up at night! {I'd pray for them}.

Yeah, some people can be SO CRUEL to other humans--- man's inhumanity to man--. How one person can destroy another life, through selfish self-satisfying acts, not thinking of the victims involved at all.
Children.. who are used. Sooo despicable.

With the COVID going on, the agency went on lockdown. Some paid-staff continued meetings and activities from their home.
..
They halted their use of volunteers from the community, as an act of protecting them.
I'm 65 years old now.
.. With the pandemic {getting stronger in this area}, I'd be considered more at-risk by age.
I missed my coworkers.
Filled that position for 3 1/2 years.

The office became my laboratory!!!!
haha. They all knew I was into astrology.
Every new person was 'told' that I would ask for their birthdata-- and birth time from Certificate. {They were sooo sweet.}
I learned a lot watching their lives, and knowing the transits they had.

I was able to have live-feedback to questions about their lives, when I'd ask. They were GREAT, and very open with me.

I could also 'sense' and see by the charts, how new people could impact the energies of the group, and change it. Change the atmosphere. Since I knew their charts, it was All Learning!!

Oh! By the way--
You are having transits right now that are markers of new-starts, transformations.

So. To close my post---
I congratulate you again, with your romantic growing relationship to the Taurus man! These guys genuinely LIKE to BE providers for the ones they Love.!!!!

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posted June 17, 2020 07:01 AM            

This isn’t just about me, this is about US
& I also want him to live •who• he is .. and support him, but I need to understand him first and there’s an obstacle to being the friend he trusts when I seem against his family's lack of discipline for his kid and his mum's contact with his previous life.

(synastry me&boyf : Pluto 4th)

I am passed the sadness stage and feel stung.

posted June 17, 2020 07:14 AM            

It’s nice you people are there looking out for others on this forum and using your astro knowledge and instinct to make sense of phases of suffering and the maze of life.

Now to validate your Neptune in 6th comment :
I did the “retreat into nature” thing for 3 Summers over the past 5 years
and in the past I would eat my hot dinner at a picturesque spot -in the car

posted June 18, 2020 06:40 PM            

I was wowed looking at the configurations in his chart. He's special.

Juno {+Hera} country song,
"Stand by your Man"
You demonstrate that with great devotion, loyalty,
and!!!, WITH "practicality" {virgo}. :D

My own Juno in Scorpio conjuncts Devota in H11, trines Mars Cancer in 7th/gem.
Vesta, and Uranus-Jupiter in Cancer 8th. One of my prenatal Eclipse points is ON Vesta.
My own Virgo Moon conjunct your Juno.

My Juno story.
I have "lived" that Juno-Devota energy.
Fell in love, and married in late 20s, {after leaving life in a monastery after a brief period}. With full devotion, I married with intention of 'till death do you part.
I was about meeting his needs. Asked him what he 'dreamed' of for his future, and within 18 months, I had accomplished and laid groundwork of manifesting the top 3 dreams of his life. I was able to take his 'talents' and increase income -- make quadruple the amount.
.. One day, about 4 years into the marriage, he said that I and his children {a baby and a toddler} were a "drain" on his finances. And, what were 'we' doing to 'pay' for our own selves?? :eek: ..
{We had a six-figure income, during a time when the stock-market had dipped to ~800?.. We lived frugally, on the level of poor college students, because I didn't mind saving our monies, to get ahead so we could live the level of prosperity we wanted for our future. Figured that WHILE the children were still small, this was a good chance for building up funds, expanding our business, saving for another house {than the fixer-upper my dad and I worked on}.
I didn't mind deferring finances of 'now', to have higher quality of life, later.
Was a very team-oriented person.

He left us;
found out he'd been secretly working to dissipate our marital assets for a year before he sprang the surprise.
> I'll spare you chunks of that story--
except to say that a friend had approached to say that MY story was worse than someone who was currently being interviewed on the Oprah Show at that time.
..
> The elderly judge who settled our case,
at one point took off his glasses.
Looking up from financial papers he had been reviewing, he said to me--
"Ma'am, I'm a judge, but I'm also a private citizen.. and, I think that this is, EGREGIOUS!!!
Yep.
I had married a latent '~criminal'? :laughing:
A handful of litigation-years later, he had been being watched by the FEDS. They arrested him, convicted of financial crimes {that were separate from what he did to his family}. "Big money".
… The dude got too "greedy" once the bigger money starting pouring into our finances.
Wanted the monies from "his" talents to ALL come to "him" only.

He had used his talents for the opportunity to do wrong, instead working for 'our' Good.

I remember my father shaking his head, and saying what a shame it was, that he chose that.
That with MY (natural) talents combined with his, we could have been living quite Large in life, having everything we wanted!
{My dad had complimented me with that statement. He was not a validator, otherwise.}

Anyway. Now that I scared you--- haha,
Back to YOU :heart:

What I want to say to you is more on the line of practical things I've seen, from some life experience.

I would 'never' question you and the strength of your passion {and talent!!}, to help this man see his potentials. You are an incredible partner, and he is lucky to have attracted you into his life. You're like a second-chance for him to realize/manifest things in his life that expands his abilities to grow, even financially.

Thing is?
He's lived 'this long' the way 'he has'.
Working hard every day takes up a LOT of energies. Same thing same thing same thing. He has children to support, in a certain lifestyle.

Some people would freak out at a 'change' in steady income, especially if things are tight as they are?

So.
He is also a man that has MINOR children to help raise. You're the one who knows how much SAY the mother gets (over the dad) in the disciplining of the children. If they spend the majority of their time with 'her', that ?might? lessen his ability to train the kids.

Even though he divorced that wife, they are "still" a couple, a pair-together, raising minor children.

Maybe that grandmother still has a strong desire for that couple to be together.

{It might NOT be as much 'about you' directly, as you might think?}

Until the children are grown and on their own, the 'other-woman-factor' will still be present, whether it's you or another person. You're in a triangle relationship.

ooooooo yeah.
That unruly child? .. ~oh my .. I can IMAGINE.
nooooooo.

That's truly harsh, and actually not in your control, as a non-genetic parent.

And if you think about, that 'unruly' child has suffered trauma over his(her) parents getting divorced. {That's something always running in the background of their psychology.}

Child has to process that emotionally,
PLUS, deal with the "job" of growing up.

This behavior is part of their struggle--- including the search for identity, security, independence, learning to self-sooth, and to learn self-control.

I don't know how old this child is, but a pattern I had noticed with kids is that sometimes 'behaviors' regress for some months, before a jump up in new level of maturity. .. When my kids were really little, I saw that clearly. Just before a 'breakthrough', they could appear more irritable, etc.

Maybe 'underneath it' even though their dad has divorced their mom, you are in object, 'an outsider' to that original family.
(You probably realize all this... already.)
Perhaps you could be unconsciously viewed as the reason their dna mom and dad aren't "traditionally" living under the same roof. (I'm just toying with ideas there..)
{{It's subliminal, logical.}}

Dealing with the child, AND grandmother---
Ultimately, it's the responsibility of 'that man' to deal with his own mother-dynamic. Be careful of stepping too hard on that one. they have "history!" LOL. Be careful how much you stress and press. Be supportive from the background. Maybe he has to break a habit of thinking and relating, break unspoken expectations.
.. When a person does that, it's a vulnerable feeling and state.

Be PATIENT.
Hold-space, and strength.

HE has to make that struggle and decision from INSIDE himself.

You seem WONDERFUL for 'his' self-esteem.
Hold space with that. ---- Yes, 'stand by your man'.. but know that those kinds of decisions {based on your suggestions} are his.

You can't change, what you can't see.

'He-Himself' needs to be able to have seen the same things you do about his abilities, and to have ownership and belief in the vision you have, in the potentials you see, , or in a version of it.

Your insecurities --
If you are feeling insecure about the relation lasting, then you really do need to look at that, in a real way.

And know that the possibility of future breakup could ONLY be something in your own mind. That your anxiety and worry could belong to you, and not him?

Just to PROCESS---
"Were" the relationship not to last--
then what was your "take away"
from having interacted with this person?

* What would you say you have learned 'about your self?'

* In what ways have you grown?

* Do you possess some new knowledge, have a different feeling, inside you NOW-- uncovering something you hadn't realized before?

Those are questions for YOU privately,
you don't need to answer them here.

If part of your finances depend on your being in this relationship, then--
if you broke up, are your parents still financially solid-able to help cover you a while till you make up for the loss.

~~~
I'm saying all this NOT because I 'see' anything in the chart... but out of care and caution that you'd be physically prepared for anything that could happen.
~~~

As long as you are with someone who has responsibility for MINORS, they mother/grandmothers may still be part of your experience. Develop a perspective of impersonal observation, and take a step-back.

These will always be a 'unit together'.. with them accepting you or not.

Be cautious .. of going in TOO heavy-handed with the child's behavior. That's actually up to the parents. Do your best to be 'present', and available.

And... "This Too Shall Pass" .. *Heart*

~

To sum up here-----
When you spoke of your Vision for him,
.. hey ..
You got even ME excited and inspired about HIS future!!! :laughing:

Lets Hope that in these coming months of really VERY strong Changes, that ALL in your life, will find Place. And I hope you continue to SEE Visions (even for YOUR life)-- to have Dreams, and an ability to 'do' to, to bring them into form and reality.

Be Productive. Be Happy.

~
As far as your comment about my age? hahah. Thanks for 'Spark' comment. LOVE it!!!

I definitely don't feel my age.
Yes, I have the 'spark' of a 25 year old! LOL

This body gives outside impression of someone around 50yrs, {according to feedback}.

I've always looked much-younger than my actual age in years. That's the Gemini ingenue-look, along with body characteristics from my Cancer water planets.

There are certain things that begin to slow down a bit, as you get older. Have to be more mindful of broad limits. .. Can't jump over fences like I used to. haha

I hope this post isn't 'too heavy' for you?
I like to use information to uplift!
To see hope and possibility.

LOVE your Boyf's chart.
Would have loved to have had a sense of his energies in person. I would guess that there's a kind of charisma about him.

October will bring nodal transits that involve a chance to integrate some things in his life H1 and H7, then the nodes shift to H12 and H6.
You experienced that shift of nodes into your H12 and H6 before and at the start of January 2018.
Around Christmas this year, Jupiter with Saturn will made a conjunction at the e.o. your 7th House.

Just 'interesting info' here...
I knew someone who had t Saturn in the 7th. Was around 2/3rd through that house. He had lost a LONG time relationship during the year before. With Saturn still there, he went to a conference and met his "soulmate". He proposed and they married soon after, just as t Saturn would say goodbye to his H7, and enter H8. He and she were in their mid50s. The marriage is working well.

I'd heard a couple other similar stories about Saturn at end of 7th associated with something beneficial.
I am NOT predicting. :laughing:
But I'm a hopeless romantic!! LOL. Hallmark :D :heart:

But I hope for good things for you.
Know that when things don't work out,
it was just practice and training for the NEXT Best-Thing.

Stay Loved. Stay Cared for!!
VALUE your Self. You're a Treasure,
and a cool friend to have.

I like people with Vision.
Women are Awesome!!

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I like to adjust 'for clarity'.
Correct any obvious errors {proof}

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IF there's ever a time I went too-far,
PLEASE let me know.

Willing to DELETE anything you want,
for privacy.

*No whole quote*

posted June 18, 2020 07:46 PM            

Edited .. and yet it got longer !

What is a prenatal Eclipse point, Mirage ? You mention it’s on your Vesta.

My Juno is pleased to meet your Moon

I was taken aback by your story.
You mentioned the importance of “seeing.”
I’m sorry he didn’t “see” all that you had done for him..
His comment was cruel in that it was de-validating and taking full credit for your collective achievement. His ego clearly had ballooned and he figured he could fry his own steak.

Oh I get comments too about finances but I guess mine is a manual worker. I started my business in Feb. He could be my salesperson but not a biz partner. I can’t have faith in others to steer something that represents only me (creative) and has taken me so long to get to. (Sun conjunct Saturn in 2nd)