posted October 19, 2020 04:15 PM            

At the beginning of 2021, transiting Jupiter and then, a little while later transiting Saturn will conjunct my natal Juno.

posted October 20, 2020 04:21 PM            

Congratulations to you, in ADVANCE!!

It was interesting to read your description of the coworkers.

Projection ---
One of the affects of Juno is if some things are overdone, you wind up "projecting" what you yourself are feeling and thinking onto those around you. Pull back a bit. How much is you, how much is them?

House 4 ---
The working "environment" IS represented by conditions in the 4th {according to some astrologers}
The 6th House (some say 5th) has to do with entrepreneurs.

The 4th House also deals with your ancestors.

Are you 'like' anyone in your lineage?
Sometimes we have picked-up similar traits and habits, unconsciously.
If you identify with one, then is it helpful? ..
. .
Do they inspire you?
Is there a character or personality 'trait' that runs through the female line in your family? Are there females 'known' for doing/saying the same thing?

Juno stands up for women, and for those that need a Voice. With JUNO in your line of ancestors, perhaps there's an energetic tie you can make use of for your future.

Aquarius pertains to 'the group'
.. more than the lone individual.
Sign of Humanity.
Collaborating, cooperating.
Inter-dependence.

Juno is also a 'decorator' .
She's known for being a good hostess, with charming ways and etiquette. She enhances feminine Beauty, uses adornments, glamor.
You could probably enhance your life with nice scents in your home, and something you consider beautiful.
Creative Arts talents.

She's the goddess of 'quality of the environment'.. She is about weather and the atmosphere-- includes climate, storms, and clean and pure air.

In Relationships ---
She describes those qualities we seek in our "ideal" mates, partners.

ref. mostly from
Demetra George, D. Bloch
Asteroid Goddesses

posted October 22, 2020 03:05 PM            

All I know my grandma had to raise 3 children all alone after losing my grandpa to lung cancer not long after my mother and siblings were born.
Then, the individual streak came to the fore in the life of my mother having to escape a really bad marriage. (Her Sun sign and my Moon sign is also Aqua.) My dad (Aries) abused us physically and verbally for 10 years non-stop and my mother remained in the whole situation passive and silent not doing anything. (I have early Saturn in the 4th in the mix as well conjuncting IC and my Juno and I heard Saturn usually represents strict, confining and/or older male figures - between me and my dad there's a major generation gap, basically one gen skipped, he is already 70+ years old, he could be my grandpa...)

Unfortunately, I was a victim in this situation and inherited really bad patterns I've been fighting and letting go since 2012 (the catalyst was an older male figure mirroring certain dynamics which really triggered me and then made my whole internal life crumble paving the way to major emotional healing.)

These days I am striving to create my life as independent as it can be - both physically and internally. Not to mention that mostly what motivates me is to get rid of all of his disgrace and negative, egoistical things my dad has and represents to me. I want to part ways with these things as much as it is possible. I am repelled by male figures just like him in general in a major way (=everyone who operates on an ego level. Interestingly enough, my Asc sign is very late Libra, almost Scorpio, and my Dsc is Aries, which also shows I just can't stand those "my dad-type" males. It opposes my life goal of equality and pureness.) I feel I can only be happy with someone who mostly has different traits than him and these people, someone who stands out of the average. Someone, who is 'clean' if you know what I mean. c: Otherwise, it won't work out with anyone... This is why at 28 years lifetime I am still single.
Before, whenever I used to be at least interested in someone, certain things always started turning out and I immediately got disgusted - unconsciously at first, but after I had a few sessions with an expert I managed to become conscious of the root cause why I rather stay single than letting someone alike my dad close to me. The last time I was engaged to someone like that for a few months, right from the start there were red flags, but we had very different work schedules, most of the time we didn't spend enough time with each other, and when we did, he started turning into this abusive monster, too, over time.

posted October 26, 2020 10:36 PM            

Again, Giving you KUDOS! for your getting your first apartment. Independence!! woot woot.

(I don't have a copy of your chart.)
If you've left it anywhere at LL,
please provide link?

I'm thrilled for you.
You've got gumption.
With patience, and thoroughly examining matters, your hard work and efforts could be met with Success.

Jupiter's transit through your 5th should be really interesting!

Which industry are you going into?

Emsie's QUOTE--------------------
Then,
the 'individual streak' came to the fore
in the life of my mother having to escape
a really bad marriage.
(Her Sun sign and my Moon sign is also Aqua.)
My dad (Aries) abused us physically and verbally for 10 years non-stop
and my mother remained in the whole situation
passive and silent not doing anything.
(I have early Saturn in the 4th in the mix as well
conjuncting IC
and my Juno

end/Quote
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Juno is one of the significators of marriage/partnership

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Corrections made -- After seeing copy of your actual chart, ty

natal JUNO = 7.59* Aquarius.
transiting Jupiter will conjunct early Jan 2021*,
a few months from now.

Transiting Juno will return to her placement in your chart in early 2021* (not 2022). Jupiter will {deleted wrong info} enter Pisces {AND your 5th House cusp ~8-9 Pisces in Feb-2022*}.
Jupiter will reach Aries in May 2022... goes retrograde back to Pisces, then direct again. {deleted ref to Christmas*}.
Jupiter reaches your Aries 27+* Descendant/H7 {in May 2023}.

.. transiting Juno + Venus in Aries, will be conjunct with transiting Jupiter Aries, {in your 6th House* --not7th}.

.. Pluto enters Aquarius March 24, 2023.
.. Saturn leaves Aquarius and is in 1.45 Pisces on that 2023 date
{tSaturn still remains in your 4th House through early 2024*}.

*edited to correct dates* --
Wed, 2020 Oct 28 11:48 pm
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Quote from
Demetra George, Douglas Bloch 1986,2003rev
Asteroid Goddesses book.
. .
Juno-Saturn aspect
The relatedness principle {Juno}
combines with 'the urge to create form and structure' {Saturn}.
This combination can signify a solid, grounded, and realistic approach toward relationships.
. .
Harmonious aspects represent
the capacity for loyalty, longevity, and commitment, in one's relationships.
These individuals can work to build structures of lasting value for themselves and others.
They also have the ability to work with others in 'business partnerships' and 'other financial concerns'.
. .
Stressful aspects denote that
one's limiting belief systems, personal insecurities,
or 'fears of commitment' may become obstacles
to forming meaningful relationships.
. .
These individuals may remain with a partner
out of social pressure, a sense of duty,
or due to the desire for material security.
This in turn can lead to feelings of oppression,
frustration, and dependency.
In some instances,
fears of closeness and intimacy
may block the formation of lasting unions.
. .
Juno-Saturn individuals can be attracted to
serious, older responsible, parental types
who can provide safety and security;
or,
they may attract people who expect *them* to fill this role.
If this projection is overdone,
the partner may be authoritarian, cold, or
may function exclusively as a parent or child.
. .
The resolution of these challenges lies in
building realistic steps to create a secure relationship
which supports each partner's development.
**
It may be necessary to transform one's limiting belief systems about partnerships in order to release past fears and insecurities. **

Emsie..
The abuse you experienced (and watched) in the home may be something you'll be processing for years. Processing can happen in layers (like layers of an onion).

Marriage.. There is a window of time around age 32/33 that Vedics mention. {I'm not that knowledgeable there. You'll have to check with someone good at Vedic timings.}

*~~
RE: Your mom.... and the abuse.
I'm very sorry you spent 10 years of your life in that cauldron, and in such intensity.

You seem to have a good grasp of your own feelings, and working with the angers you felt. Certainly seems that this experience formed a resolve in you 'not' to become 'victim' to a person or a situation-- and your 'red flag' intuitive abilities became heightened after being subjected to those 10 years.

Being part of a regularly meeting Woman's Group could help?
{Kind of like the way that a group like "Alcoholic Anonymous" works to mutually support? AA}
You would be a valuable addition to a group 'because' you had seen what happened to your mom, and you 'know' the *red flags* to watch for. If a victimized woman came to a group like that for help, you could help embolden her. Your strength, your angers {and maybe subliminal fears for her?} could be directed into a way 'that helps' another woman!

,, Trigger warning ,,
I myself had been surprised--
when I found I had unknowingly married an abuser. {verbal, until once-- upon which I GOT OUT swiftly, with the careful help of other women}.

I had had children from a previous marriage. They had never known their bio-dad. He left their life when they were 1 and 3yo.

Became a single parent, and a full-time working mother for 7 or 8 years.
I was deeply committed to and involved in a church community.
Had a great job. We were happy.
My kids had known me as a strong and courageous person. I had a good reputation in the wider community and was much-beloved as a popular-leader in the church we belonged to. When the doors of the church were open for a service, my daughters and I were always there in attendance. When there was an event to do-good in the larger community, my daughters and I were involved.
. .
Met a man in that mega-church community.
He was almost 5 years older than I was, with no children.
He had never been married. Lived alone.
Worked since his younger days in a steady low-position job at a local chemical plant.
Had no ambition to move up in that company even though they offered it to him. He was purely content 'as he was'. Would work same steady job until he retired.
So, I had known him {noticed him} socially in the church for 5 or 6 years.
He had wanted to date me but I (kindly) blew him off as I truly was exceedingly busy, happy, and contented 'as a single'.

He started paying a whole lot of attention to my children-- which of course called MY attention to 'watch him'.
He gave them gifts. Sent me flowers.
Eventually, I started to date him, and fell for him.
I had wanted my kids to have the stability and energetics of 'a man'/father in the house.
A year after we started dating I married him.
.....
Thing is?
He CHANGED.
.....
On the honeymoon, I was shocked to see his 'personality' change. Had married someone 'I didn't know'.
Turns out, that for this Capricorn man, I was his sport-- a "trophy wife" -- a "goal" he had fixed his mind on getting, and attained.
He said he had watched me from the back of the church for years. The day he introduced himself to me, he said he shook my hand-- with the connected-palms becoming an point of energetic-injection, of an intention, to take me to the altar {goal of marriage}.
. .
After the wedding, we had moved into his house. It was at the edge of a state forest in a RURAL area. Took a 45 minute drive to go to the nearest convenience store to buy milk.
Telephone calls to my friends after the move were very expensive-- as we were out-of-state.
With me being married we drifted apart.
We attended a VERY tiny local church that hadn't quite set any roots or attracted others.
The megachurch I had previously attended were a balanced mixed-race church. The local rural churches were VERY segregated. Prejudice abounded. Whites went to white churches, blacks only worshipped with blacks. They didn't want 'a mix'.
. .
The 'isolation' I felt inside had me feeling sad.
His energy was like living inside a 'pressure cooker'.
He was verbally tearing into me "again" one day,
in front of my children!
. .
My children had known me as a STRONG female-- one who would 'otherwise' have never stayed backed-down to a BULLY.
-- But OMG, Emsie. --
This man had a way of intimidating,,,,
Fond of gaslighting.
He was trying to get my children to SIDE WITH HIM -- against 'me'.
And I was confounded and "silent" -- not able speak.
.
So in this instant,
I heard my oldest child (~13yo) shout at me --- loudly she says,
"MOM. ???? DO something ??!!!

She wanted me to fight-back ----
I was so utterly speechless... There was no answer to the things that were plainly untrue and didn't make sense!!

On THAT day,
I felt as though I was a disappointment to her!
That she "lost" respect for me?
And I continued to just stay shocked that I was with this person I was NOT in-tuned with.

--- I'll stop my story there.

(music) Evangeline (Little Big Town)
[4:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzzdf7rerfg

*~

I'm sorry that you saw your own mom 'in that state' of silent, and seemingly unable to 'do' anything about the abuse that went on in your house. You might not have been aware of what she was going through-- on the inside of her. *bheart* She might not have had a 'way of escape'.

It's really important that YOU take extra good care of your self.

'That' doesn't need to be YOUR story at all.

Again---
If you haven't, at some point you might go to a woman's group and talk about what happened in your home, talk about your experiences. Get those emotions dealt with so you won't meet any unconscious 'projection' in a partner.

Talk to The Women.

AND,
in these days,
a financially independent woman
does not "need" to get married.

posted October 27, 2020 01:17 PM            

Viviette's thread Juno IC.
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/005063-3.html
{see thread for inter-links}

posted October 27, 2020 03:18 PM            

Until then, let me share my natal chart with you, I hope I'll manage to upload it somehow. c: Let's hope you will be able to open it.

posted October 27, 2020 04:33 PM            

Omg, this period seems to be a very interesting one. o.o Not to mention that I've just checked out my Solar return chart as well for 2021, and realized even SrUranus will be in my natal 7th in Taurus. I can't help but feel a bit "expect the unexpected"?!
And TrJupiter will conjunct my natal Moon even twice in 2021. Although, what I'm the most curious about is what Pluto entering Aqua in 2023 gonna do with my 4th and home life, etc. I guess, transformation plays a big part, but I really hope for the good and it won't bring too many sinister things. Especially, that it's gonna be there for quite some time.

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"These individuals may remain with a partner
out of social pressure, a sense of duty,
or due to the desire for material security.
This in turn can lead to feelings of oppression,
frustration, and dependency."

This was definitely me at one part of my life, my last relationship with my ex-fiance. Especially the social pressure, as I was living with my mom together at that time and we had multiple fights on a daily basis. I was pressured by the situation and even by her to move out of home, this was another reason (other than trying to validate a few things about me to become conscious) that I moved together with my ex, and right at the beginning I felt I should have, but back then I felt I didn't have any other choice, because I didn't have a proper job and my thesis + degree were still in progress.

As soon as before Saturn return hit I was guided and pushed from above to step out of the situation after 2,5 years.

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"I'm sorry that you saw your own mom 'in that state' of silent, and seemingly unable to 'do' anything about the abuse that went on in your house. You might not have been aware of what she was going through-- on the inside of her. *bheart* She might not have had a 'way of escape'."

Yeah, this was also a point of which I was thinking really hard for a few days. At that time as a child I definitely had no idea about her patterns and the reason(s) behind her non-action. In this way I don't think I have any rights to blame her. But a few months ago she told me something about this old situation (after finally confessing me dad is back at her neighborhood throwing evil letters into her postbox, harrassing her by trying to spread rumour about her to the neighbors, etc. Last time even a picture of her, he basically drew devil horns and other disgusting things on the picture and tore it into pieces, the out it into the letter... Dad definitely hasn't changed, but became even more evil than he used to be...)

So, what she told me, when I was around 4 or 5 years old, my aunt told her to get a divorce and move in together into a rent flat, just the 3 of us. And basically EVERYONE around mom (except me) saw things getting out of control, not only their marriage getting colder day-by-day, but the unhappiness of mom. Even my grandma told her to leave my dad, but even with this she decided to stay. And last Christmas (when I escaped to her after a huge fight with my ex) she started crying and told me how much she regrets her decisions, and had quite a few options to move, but she didn't take any steps... because she was a cowards.

I think this was one of the hardest and saddest confessions I've ever heard. Ironically enough, around Christmas I was in the exact same situation, I wanted to and planned to come out of the bad connection for long months, but what held me back was the financial side of things. (I suspect she decided to stay for similar reasons as well...) But when this confession happened, it hit me like a ton of bricks!! Like, I immediately, without any question and hesitation, decided to leave asap. No matter how much money I was gonna able to save, I simply didn't care. I started searching for rent flats secretly. But nowadays, where I live, it is a bit harder to find a rent flat where the owner allows cats and other animals - I had 2 cats to take care of, which made it even harder. But later I managed to find one, and I even got promoted at my workplace, so financial matters weren't an issue anymore. c:

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"This man had a way of intimidating,,,,
Fond of gaslighting.
He was trying to get my children to SIDE WITH HIM -- against 'me'.
And I was confounded and "silent" -- not able speak.
.
So in this instant,
I heard my oldest child (~13yo) shout at me --- loudly she says,
"MOM. ???? DO something ??!!!"

This part really broke my heart. It was really hard to read, even imagining the whole situation playing out. I'm truly sorry for what you and also your children had to go through. Not to mention this gaslighting thing I've also seen, not only from dad, but from my ex, too. Dad was successfull with the "brainwash", as an aftermath I used to blame myself for things I didn't do, etc. (this was also something I had to get rid of)
My ex wasn't successful with it, fortunately, as I already had this type of experience, and I knew exactly what I was facing. It just made me strive for justice and equality even more (which turned out to be a trigger for my ex making the whole dynamic between us kind of "catch-22")

posted October 27, 2020 07:26 PM            

{How you used and positioned that yoyo smilie looks soooo cute!}

quote:

---

Originally posted by Emsie:
\.. let me share my natal chart with you, I hope I'll manage to upload it somehow. c: Let's hope you will be able to open it.

---

*Flicker Account ...
I was able to open it with a click,
but it wouldn't allow me to electronically store a copy in my files, NOR would it even let me PRINT your chart.
.. argghhhh!!!

Other members here use no-cost Image Hosting sites {that WILL allow to print}.

* ONLY IF you want to----
Two other websites are--
* imgbb
* IMGUR

from post in
Know Two Are Alike forum
"Wondering How to post Images"
scroll down to Sept 19, 2018
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000016-2.html

After what I briefly saw in your chart, I had guessed some of the degrees and house cusp placements wrongly*. I need to re-check what I wrote about your chart originally.
. .
Once I get a hard copy of the chart, I can re-work the numbers and dates. ...haha, Mercury is Retrograde!! RE-DO is needed.

I had ballpark "guessed" at your chart.
Better to know.

*~
Thanks for reading about my story.
I placed a "trigger warning" for you above the part where my child yelled out at me to 'defend' myself.
{She's an Aries Sun, Aries Rising, with 29+Pisces Moon. Almost triple Aries.}
I haven't seen her since the 1990s. She didn't want anything more to do with me, after the divorce. ..
That hurt-- a LOT. Irreparably broken.}

After I read the additional story that your Mom told you-- I had less-favorable feelings about what she did.
,, She said she DID have a way out?? -- Wow... I can see how you'd have definite mixed-feelings about that.
,, And NOW, he's back into your lives?? -- I hope she can get a restraining order??

I don't know the legal system in your country--
Here, in USA, in the State I live in, the Domestic Violence program {excellent} has worked extra hard to make the community aware-- and the Court Judges realize-- the 'dangers' that some women can be in from ex's that stalk, and do malicious deeds. They are specially concerned with a spouse's life when the ex owns a weapon, and starts acting out.

With my second daughter,
{Taurus Sun, same Aries rising as her sister, with a Capricorn Moon}
She cut ties with me and everyone she knew from my side of the family. I heard that while she was in college, she and her peers set-up a program as a project-- Awareness of violence against women on campuses. They extended their services for the extended community surrounding the area the college. They did counseling/support, and attending to other needs, of women {people} who had been raped or suffered violence and abuse.
..
So even if I have irreparably 'lost' those relationships totally--
I know that the second child 'used' what happened in our home, to find ways of serving women in trouble in the community where she lived.
. .
I heard too that what she and her peers started, is still running; it got federally funded. Became a model program to set up at other colleges and communities in our country.
.. Grapevine
she never fully completed her doctorate.
Moved away from everyone. Does work in some other kind of field now? .. {d.k.}

Sheesh! Wow... this IS a relationship review day for me. I've had some tears, and 'understanding' about what happened.

Sometimes you can fix things-- and I guess, other times you have to just let it go. Evokes waves of the bittersweet inside of me.
..
Being older, I've 'seen' a lot, and am rich in experiences.

I kind of mourn {with other women} for their loss of relationships. There was a psychologist who wrote a book {and did an Oprah episode??} about women who had been abandoned by their children.
.. There seemed to have been a 'wave' of these in the earlier 2000s. Made me wonder what those women's charts had in common.

Anyways.
I'd like the chance to re-do the calculations for your Juno.

What you said about Pluto to enter your 4th at some time in the future?.. That will be a long time from now.
. .
Sometimes {with our heads} we can 'guess' at Pluto effects when it's nearer in time-- but a LOT of other changes that can happen in the world between now and then.

I had watched Pluto cross the "IC" of my City in the past 20 years. It wound up being a good thing. New buildings, road repairs and redesigned overpasses and traffic-patterns for road areas often involved in accidents. Some old sewer lines under the general area seemed mysteriously to keep 'collapsing'-- construction crews excavated broken pipes to install NEW ones. {Pluto words}

The effect was good.
The things that were 'old' and built early in the last century 'would have needed' replacing eventually. They showed their wear when they collapsed underground {Pluto word}. It was kind of 'natural' even organic that this occurred with Pluto sawing over the IC.. no big-thing .. except for extra-congestion on the roads for a LONG time.
But it's going to be excellent once it's all done. Good for another Century or more of use. Infrastructures.

After your first Saturn Return, you'll be considered a full-fledged astrological Adult! Saturn comes into your life to 'test' everything you are. It's done to reveal where your strengths and weaknesses lie. You'll enter your 30's with a sense of what you have within you to use, or to work on.

I've known some really good things that have happened in people's lives when the crest of Saturn return period began to wane.

Welcome to 'The Establishment'!
(That's what folks in my teens and 20s generation used to called people 'over 30'.)

hmmm. Actually? 'Establishment' .. That's a Saturn word, yes indeed.

Viviette has a thread on Juno and her IC.
With you, her, and me -- we represent 3 generations of women. Imagine that...

(music) The Times They are A-Changin'
(Dylan song, Brandi Carlile, live)
[4:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLECbf0nOA

Venus is almost ready to change to Libra.
Mercury almost ready to retrograde to Libra.

Libra .. Another "relationship" sign.
We're talking about the right things.

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*edited to correct the dates in post prior to this one--
Thanks for providing the copy of your chart!

posted October 28, 2020 07:00 AM            

This one seems to work, and can be downloaded

posted October 28, 2020 10:43 AM            

I'm a visual person. Helps me to distinguish you from others. It's easy to mix up information, otherwise.

Later today, I'll look up your info in my ephemeris, and ponder things.

Have a Nice Day!

______________
If you remove the 's' from http when you post an url it energizes the link.

posted October 29, 2020 12:18 AM            

Happened to find this Juno thread mentioned and linked, in a request you made in the Personal Readings forum.

Adds fuller background information and understanding for this JUNO thread.
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/026115.html

posted October 29, 2020 02:21 PM            

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"After I read the additional story that your Mom told you-- I had less-favorable feelings about what she did.
,, She said she DID have a way out?? -- Wow... I can see how you'd have definite mixed-feelings about that.
,, And NOW, he's back into your lives?? -- I hope she can get a restraining order??"

Exactly. And not even my aunt suggested to move in together just the 3 of us, but even my grandma about the opportunity to move back to hers. And there were also a few more alternatives as well. This is why I also didn't understand her inability to make the effort to move away from a bad marriage. Even to these days I feel ambivalent towards her. We've always had this "with and without you" type of connection towards each other.

Mom has had a long-term relationship for more than 10 years now, I just call the person my 'honorary dad' as he always helps us a lot, and when I attended univesity he paid for a few things of mine to help me get along more effectively. I can't even compare my biological dad to him. I've never gotten anything from him when I was a child, not even a bar of chocolate. He's always been stingy - be it chocolate, attention, unconditional love, etc. The only thing he cares is money and gambling. (After the divorce mom had to pay him out half the price of the flat from loan. Now she basically pays out the flat again until 2033, because originally it was hers, dad only brought a few pieces of furniture... A few years ago I was told he threatened mom if she wouldn't have paid it out, he would have continued making our life miserable in the long term. Within 6 months the amount of money was gone. Gambling and stuff...) I told her to keep the letters in case of emergency to have at least some type of proof against him.

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"I placed a "trigger warning" for you above the part where my child yelled out at me to 'defend' myself.
{She's an Aries Sun, Aries Rising, with 29+Pisces Moon. Almost triple Aries.}
I haven't seen her since the 1990s. She didn't want anything more to do with me, after the divorce. ..
That hurt-- a LOT. Irreparably broken.}

With my second daughter,
{Taurus Sun, same Aries rising as her sister, with a Capricorn Moon}
She cut ties with me and everyone she knew from my side of the family. I heard that while she was in college, she and her peers set-up a program as a project-- Awareness of violence against women on campuses. They extended their services for the extended community surrounding the area the college. They did counseling/support, and attending to other needs, of women {people} who had been raped or suffered violence and abuse.
..
So even if I have irreparably 'lost' those relationships totally--
I know that the second child 'used' what happened in our home, to find ways of serving women in trouble in the community where she lived.
. .
I heard too that what she and her peers started, is still running; it got federally funded. Became a model program to set up at other colleges and communities in our country.
.. Grapevine
she never fully completed her doctorate.
Moved away from everyone. Does work in some other kind of field now? .. {d.k.}"

Omg, now this is another part which makes me utterly sad. I just really hope their decision wasn't based on what that man told them with all that gaslighting and evil ways! From my viewpoint this would feel like a really unjust situation, if yes. Especially, that I've experienced watching mom several times not acting when she should have, but I decided to keep talking to her. Even if I don't let her into certain things in my life on purpose and try to hold a somewhat healthy distance from her, but I'm still willing to maintain our connection.

It's so impressive what your daughter achieved so far. Sounds like something Aqua I hope that one day they decide to get back to you, or perhaps get back in touch with you.

I can totally understand you as I feel the same these days, lots of relationship and pattern reviews for me, too. Every year, when Scorpio season arrives, there is always something popping up triggering me into reviewing my life. I only abandoned my biological dad, but as he's not willing to change and I don't want negative toxic people to occupy my life taking up space from healthy connections, I think I had no other choice. I did it for myself, I forgave and the let him completely go. Not to say that it justifies what he's done, that's absolutely not the case, I'm just not willing to bear his cross anymore. Complete detachment in every ways...

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"After your first Saturn Return, you'll be considered a full-fledged astrological Adult! Saturn comes into your life to 'test' everything you are. It's done to reveal where your strengths and weaknesses lie. You'll enter your 30's with a sense of what you have within you to use, or to work on.

I've known some really good things that have happened in people's lives when the crest of Saturn return period began to wane.

Welcome to 'The Establishment'!
(That's what folks in my teens and 20s generation used to called people 'over 30'.)

hmmm. Actually? 'Establishment' .. That's a Saturn word, yes indeed."

posted November 01, 2020 11:41 AM            

Beautiful soul.. those are very Inspiring words!

People who are living with higher ideals, and actively work on themselves, and who are wanting the WORLD and FUTURE based on what is Higher, and Good, and of Good Will--- may, at this time, be getting pulled-down by those who are crass do NOT want a Peaceful balanced world. They work to destroy this.

Like you said, 'the world is in trouble.. and won't be saved by unconscious, greedy, selfish people.'

Unfortunately, all it takes is for the greedy and selfish to 'disrespect' the Peace and Sister/Brotherhood .. and RUIN all-- through 'lawlessness', and EACH of them wanting and acting on what is 'right' by their OWN eyes/appetites'.

When people live by a code of goodness, then harmony prevails. When coarse people live TO themself, BY themself, they want to pillage and destroy ALL that is Good.

The "NEO-nazis and other twisted cults and Haters" are being given power and latitude to 'act out'..
It only takes an uneducated fool mesmerized by words of cult-leader's ideation, to terrorize the PEACE of the public.
When each of 'those' makes self a 'law unto themselves', they DESTROY the relatively cooperative society. They don't like Peace.

There's a thread in Divine Diversities forum where Vansio posted the description of Kali Yuga. I was beyond-words after I read that. It was a description written thousands of years ago--- and it describes 'what IS EXACTLY happening' in our society and world right now.
Chilling!!!
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000844.html

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I grew up during the Peace and Love age.
We have a shared generational 'Neptune in Libra', with our 'Pluto in Leo'.

Part of me {existentially} wonders...
What-is-it that drives some to go hungry/vicious after materials and power, with NO valuing of Human Life they harm along the way. They live by individual-self-only rules. And have no qualms about 'taking' everything that 'others' have-- so they can have 'more'... No conscience at all. It's void.
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While others {of us} want to live in a Harmonious world of Cooperation and Peace-- A World that Shares and is only too-glad to help their neighbors from the overage they have.
A world where needs are met, and no one is lacking. We work together to Elevate and Cultivate a Better World.

No more lives ~~~ TORN APART!!!