posted March 12, 2016 08:13 AM              

I'd also like to add that a few centuries before us Terra Astralis was a proposed southern-most land, and appeared on many early maps. Then a terrain was discovered and it happened to be named Australia, and that was a concrete opinion to be the most due South land, after the "fictatious" Terra Atlanitis. Then after that Antarctica came to be, and to this day is claimed to take the southern spot. While Terra Australis is also claimed to be other potentially mythical lands, no one has 'ever been' there -the same as Antarctica, as could be claimed also these days. There are just proposed ideas on what they both look like and all, and the ideas of what it actually is and why general people can't go there.

posted March 22, 2016 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by HadesFish:
Thanks, again, PJ!

I'd also like to add that a few centuries before us Terra Astralis was a proposed southern-most land, and appeared on many early maps. Then a terrain was discovered and it happened to be named Australia, and that was a concrete opinion to be the most due South land, after the "fictatious" Terra Atlanitis. Then after that Antarctica came to be, and to this day is claimed to take the southern spot. While Terra Australis is also claimed to be other potentially mythical lands, no one has 'ever been' there -the same as Antarctica, as could be claimed also these days. There are just proposed ideas on what they both look like and all, and the ideas of what it actually is and why general people can't go there.

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there exist maps from the 15th century that are believed to be copies of a much more ancient time.they are the piri reis maps. to the south of the atlantic show the edge of lands that have now been identified as anatarica coast. but anartica coast in under snow for millions of years.. so how could there be a map showicoast?

todd

posted March 22, 2016 05:54 PM              

Snow or not, seems people just wanted to know... Something.

I don't know how they knew or didn't, but when to comes to maps you are right- they are all based off of a loooong past. Maybe the idea is the people who originated these maps knew something or even not, but along the way things got lost in translation for whatever reasons. Now maps are available to all, but back then they were only used by very certain people.

Maps for this topic are a great source regardless as they will track the thoughts and ideas of those times.

posted March 22, 2016 06:06 PM              

TE- I wonder if that man ever found what he was looking for.

posted March 22, 2016 06:53 PM            

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As I meantioned, during those times(15th-18th century),the supposed terrain was actually fictitious. But, apparently not as they kept exploring and found Australia then Antarctica. It could have been real at one point...

Snow or not, seems people just wanted to know... Something.

I don't know how they knew or didn't, but when to comes to maps you are right- they are all based off of a loooong past. Maybe the idea is the people who originated these maps knew something or even not, but along the way things got lost in translation for whatever reasons. Now maps are available to all, but back then they were only used by very certain people.

Maps for this topic are a great source regardless as they will track the thoughts and ideas of those times.

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it was finally noted that the piri reis maps were exact conic projections of the world from a vantage point of 120 miles over the great pyramid at giza. so not only did the maps come from a period when there was no ice on the Antarctic coast, but they were made from a vantage point over Egypt.

it is said that Columbus had access tpo these maps.
another interesting aspect was that at the edge of the map to the far west over a great expanse of ocean, a island was pictured. this "island"turned out to be the bulge of south America where the continent protrudes into the Atlantic.
on this bulge in brazil, a huge carved sign is found on the ground, similar to the Nazca line in chile.ufo theorist felt this was a "landing" sign.strange coincidence that this piece of land was included in the piri maps.

todd

posted March 22, 2016 07:48 PM              

I wonder if other maps were also made from this angle as it's proposed that certain pyramids all mathematically line up with each other.... And Nazca lines also themselves being found in other parts of The Americas, as well as world.

posted March 23, 2016 05:02 AM            

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MarsSaturnDelight- if you enjoy looking at this stuff from a somewhat [computer] science prospective, as Randall mentioned there is the Matrix, and if you've seen it or not(or familiar with the matrix theory in itself)- the film The 13th floor gives a great visual into plateaus and planes about our world/earth/existence.

TE- I wonder if that man ever found what he was looking for.

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posted March 26, 2016 02:27 PM            

Flat Earth Claims that Rocked my World – Videos

posted March 28, 2016 01:17 PM            

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Haven't watched yet. What do they say?

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perspectivbe abnormalities. basisically relativity though they don't mention that at all.

no way to ascertain relative motion once you are in constant motion.

I haven't looked at it all.
flat earth is archaic but many motions are not understood

posted April 01, 2016 04:13 PM            

the earth’s rotation creates a gyroscopic affect. The earth should be tumbling in it’s orbit because of the gyroscopic affect.to keep the axis of rotation stable,such as aligned to the north start, the axis must be secured.
The earth’s axis is fixed, some force must be being exerted on the earth’s poles for this stability to exist. This is the missing force that science does not identify, in fact science does not even ask the question of what stabilizes the earth’s axis. Without the axis being stable we would have not season, we would have no set period of sun rise and sunset, life as we know it could not evolve in such a chaotic situation
The easiest way to comprehend this is to see these forces in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJWIl4MYMbw&list=PLmTxBRsvYE1pOSK5N4byEJnY 4M6-8kaQz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdrqpXb-fY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9QSiVC2g0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4YlDH_yRjA

But interestingly the standard model can not explain certain physical conditions that everyone alive experiences very moment.

As my allegation may be seen as ignorant and outlandish in light of the intimate contact we have with technology, I will make a point that all we have to agree shows the ignorance of science.

Most of us have dealt with a flat bike tire. And while fixing it, surely we have all noticed that if one spins the wheel in your hands, the tire exerts a right angle force that allows one to support the tire on one finger. As long as the wheel spins it will remain horizontal and spin around the remaining finger. The rotation creates a force that holds the axles level. But if you want to stop the wheel from revolving around you finger, one must gasp both ends of the wheel axle and hold it steady.
Any rotating body that has mass creates these forces, by Newton’s laws of motion. the more massive the object, the greater the rotations force created. Every day we see the sun go across the sky and the seasons come and go with the steady, fixed orientation of the rotations axis of the earth. The problem is that for these constant movements of the earth to exist, there must be forces that hold the axis steady. If one places a rotating object in a vacuum, it will tumble thru space.
The spontaneous response is Gravity is doing it is keeping the axis fixed in place.. But that is not even close. Gravity is said to result in the planets motion around the sun, but the rotation of the planets have nothing to do with gravity.
No one knows why the planets are revolving. gravity didn’t do it.
So we all feel the steady motion of the earth, but for this to be. there must be a exterior force holding the earth’s axis steady.

Yet ,unbelievably, Science has no answer, in fact Science does not even ask the question. Because the answer must be hidden to conceal the secret of the black magician powers .

The only explanation ever given was an nebulous statement by Ernst mach. He said the every star in the universe is “holding” the axis’s ,of all the planets and stars in the universe, steady.
This is pure conjecture; it has no connection to any known forces. But Einstein coined the term the “mach affect”. But you will be hard pressed to find this in any scientific book .

So the question remains unanswered, what holds the rotational axis of the earth fixed.
Such a big omission in the standard model is hard to comprehend.
This is an example of the Mirrors of Science. One can not believe that science does not have a answer but they do not..
I didn’t figure this out , I read a paper http://teslasociety.com/biography.htm

in this article he calculated the immense rotational forces existing from the earth’s rotation. And then pointed out that scientist ignore this conundrum.
I had to read the article 2-3 times before I realized the simplicity of the scientific omission, he had pointed out.
So science is in fact concealing the most primal dynamics in our world.

Emmnuael velikovsky pointed out the missing celestial dynamic:the electrical fields of the planets and stars. http://velikovsky.org/en/velikovsky.html http://varchive.org/

the rotation energies of all the planets and stars is totally ignored by science. there is enough rotational energy existant to provide the missing dark energy. but scientist do not want to focus on a source of free energy, so they come jup with yet another hypothetic energy .

Emmanuel velikovsky pointed out the missing celestial dynamic: the electrical fields of the planets and stars. His theories have been validated with by space probes thru the years, yet the “itelligentsia” , dismisses his work.understanably as he overturns, newton ,Darwin, Einstein and shows the intellectual blind spots of archeology and history. Velikovsky single handedly disclosed the falscity and manipulation of the archeological/historical records.
the magnetic fields of the planets and sun are the forces that orders the universe, just as electrical fields order the world of atoms and sub atomic particle. The affect produced on light by a “gravitation” field and on light produced by an electromagnetic field cannot be distinguished. Both are defined by inverse square mathematical equations I have emphasized repeatedly the glaring omission of scientist to look at the causes for the stability of the earth axis. clearly the editors of history do not want this dynamic included in modern scientific theories as this would reveal the true source of the energies underlying our reality.
It may seem like a simple matter, but recent discoveries are beginning to show the true strength of the rotation of the earth.
The alternating current of our electrical system was called, by it’s inventor.nikolai tesla, a rotating magnetic field system. it is the rotation of the earth that gives the electrical force. Scientist had recently noted that relativistic particles are generated in the van Allen belts. At first scientist thought these near light speed particles had to have come from beyond the solar system. Then recently they noted that these particles were being accelerated in the van allen belt. The problem was where was the van allen belt getting the immense energy to raise these particles to near light speed.
Now they have found out that the magnetic field of the earth’ rotation is the force accelerating these relativistic particles. No scientist thought that the earth’s relatively slow rotation speed could cause these charged particles to form. Yet that is exactly what is happening. they have come up with new theories but still where the energy is coming from eludes them.
The affects Einstein gives to gravity are illusionary, a singularity is illusionary ,black holes are illusionary just as steph hawkens, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking-there-are-no-black-ho les-9085016.html
the dean of black holes has determined.

Gravity is a mathematical mirror to hide the power of the electromagnetic fields of the earth and sun.
I have emphasized repeatedly the glaring omission of scientist to look at the causes for the stability of the earth axis. clearly the editors of history do not want this dynamic included in modern scientific theories as this would reveal the true source of the energies underlying our reality. this is the source of the power of UFO's
It may seem like a simple matter, but recent discoveries are beginning to show the true strength of the rotation of the earth.

posted April 02, 2016 04:43 PM            

what appears to be a 'force field' over Earth, fueling the fire over whether our planet has been under spiritual and physical quarantine as many have suggested. According to Daniel Baker, director of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics, the electron barrier exists in the Van Allen belts, a pair of donut-shaped belts that ring the Earth teeming with protons and electrons -

posted April 04, 2016 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
the flat earth theory seems archaic... but something is amiss...
check these videos
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2016/03/flat-earth-claims-that-roc ked-my-world-videos-3325207.html

Flat Earth Claims that Rocked my World – Videos

rahu

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I seemed to have not given enough attention to this video. I only watched the first part and apparently scoffed to soon.

the first part made a pont thati have been mulling over and haven't figured out how do debunk it.

it is a very simple puzzle but....

the moon is 200000 miles from earth and the nearest star is 2.5 million light years away. the video makes the point that this difference in distance should be apparent when the earth passes by the moon at 1000mph.

say the moon is a large tree just off a road. and th eother tree(stars) are 200 yards in the background. when one is on the road approaching the tree(moon),one willnot be able to se the tree(stars) tht are behind the tree(moon)as one gets closer, then one will star to see the obscured trees(stars) as thas other stars become obscured. as one passes the tree(moon) one will see the new trees(stars)that were obscured and now visible and trees(starts) that were visible willbecome obscured.the video gives an animatedtoin that makes this clear.

but the point made that when the moon first rises and the earth is speeding around a 1000mph, the moon and stars always retain the exact same angular differences. one never sees the apparent change in the back ground starts. the only waythis could happen is if the moon and stars were at the same distance away.with the moon closer, one would see the affect of perspective and the apparent passing of the moon over the stars.
but this does not happen at all times the moon and stars retain there original positions relative to each other.
it is worth looking at the video as there is something amiss but I can't figure it out. I don't really believe in the flat earth, but just like the unknown force keeping all the axis of planets and stars fixed, why does it look like the moon and starts are all fixed to the same background when the difference in distances of the moon and stars should be apparent by a simple change in perspective due to the earths motion.

todd

posted April 06, 2016 03:33 PM            

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Seems to confirm all of it is a projection, as in Matrix Theory.

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