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Sulkyarcher
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posted December 06, 2016 05:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SDragon:
While we may knock the Millennials generation, they are part and parcel the generation where Pluto was in it's natural sign of Scorpio (1984-1995). They grew up in an age where all the safety nets have disappeared, terrorism across borders (9/11), financial instability (2001, 2008 crash), government corruption and the death of the American dream. They grew up in the largest debt bubble in modern times and they're experiencing and learning to integrate the energies of fear, depression, anxiety, hopelessness that they feel from families, relatives, friends, the environment and all the dynamics of 8th house and Scorpio issues. Most people feel the shift, but I would say not the same way the new generation does.

Right now they live a very pointless experience and other generations struggle to understand why. But they're very bitter against the Boomer generation which they intuitively know have robbed them of their better future and American dream. They leave colleges with enormous school debt only to find limited jobs because Boomers are staying in the work force longer. They see housing and car debt as pointless and thus live very insular day to day existences, traveling the world, refusing to work themselves to death and generally a different mentality than previous generations.

But again, they are the Pluto in Scorpio generation. They are literally WAITING and DYING for these structures to break, for the rest of the world to join them in their suffering and experience of hopelessness, and in that death, while others shut down and see only death, they, having already gone through all that will be at their REBIRTH stage, having learned and survived as the Scorpion, they are ready to become the Eagle, to lift humanity into the future, so yes, they may be young and we may not understand them, but let's try not to be too harsh on them. They have a wisdom in them that has yet to shine, but when it does, we will be grateful that this generation came behind us.


Also, Baby boomers are Pluto in Leo. They square the Pluto in Scorpio generation, and we all know that squares are dramatic and tense!

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posted December 06, 2016 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also, Baby boomers are Pluto in Leo. They square the Pluto in Scorpio generation, and we all know that squares are dramatic and tense!

I didn't realize that ! But yes! It definitely shows.

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posted January 09, 2017 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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While we may knock the Millennials generation, they are part and parcel the generation where Pluto was in it's natural sign of Scorpio (1984-1995). They grew up in an age where all the safety nets have disappeared, terrorism across borders (9/11), financial instability (2001, 2008 crash), government corruption and the death of the American dream. They grew up in the largest debt bubble in modern times and they're experiencing and learning to integrate the energies of fear, depression, anxiety, hopelessness that they feel from families, relatives, friends, the environment and all the dynamics of 8th house and Scorpio issues. Most people feel the shift, but I would say not the same way the new generation does.

Right now they live a very pointless experience and other generations struggle to understand why. But they're very bitter against the Boomer generation which they intuitively know have robbed them of their better future and American dream. They leave colleges with enormous school debt only to find limited jobs because Boomers are staying in the work force longer. They see housing and car debt as pointless and thus live very insular day to day existences, traveling the world, refusing to work themselves to death and generally a different mentality than previous generations.

But again, they are the Pluto in Scorpio generation. They are literally WAITING and DYING for these structures to break, for the rest of the world to join them in their suffering and experience of hopelessness, and in that death, while others shut down and see only death, they, having already gone through all that will be at their REBIRTH stage, having learned and survived as the Scorpion, they are ready to become the Eagle, to lift humanity into the future, so yes, they may be young and we may not understand them, but let's try not to be too harsh on them. They have a wisdom in them that has yet to shine, but when it does, we will be grateful that this generation came behind us.


You hit the nail on the head. I'm Pluto in Scorpio and have the characteristics of an Indigo child, so this resonates to me more so than most of my generation. All the systems are there to control humanity... employment and financial to keep us enslaved to the elite in order to survive (being gone many hours from your family in order for you and them to survive is just immoral), political to divide us (both the Dems and GOP are Illuminati and the big name politicians are all Illuminati, and that's why Bernie got screwed and not Trump, despite both running populist campaigns), TV and media to brainwash us, religion to pacify us (the "rapture" can happen at any time so don't "sin"! You'll be raptured if you just gave faith and don't do anything else! See how ridiculous that sounds), education to indoctrinate us (notice that K-12 is mostly an 8-3 schedule, like the 9-5 work schedule, and in order to get a GOOD job you have to go to college where they try to indoctrinate you), etc. It's slowly coming to light but so many don't understand it yet, and most of the politicians that got us in this mess are Pluto in Leo, which squares Pluto in Scorpio (Hillary and Trump both have Pluto in Leo, along with Neptune in Libra, which squares our Pluto and Neptune, which may explain why they didn't have the popularity with us that Obama, a Pluto Virgo/Neptune Scorpio, did, and Bernie has Neptune in Virgo with his Pluto in Leo, which is VERY similar to our Neptune in Capricorn).

The collapse will likely happen in the late 2010s-early 2020s during the US/Illuminati Pluto return, Saturn in Capricorn, and Uranus in Taurus transits (in most of the psychic predictions Trump will not be in office then, likely due to impeachment or assassination, both of which are possible because Trump is a loose cannon and his racist and sexist comments can set off the wrong people, which has me fearing a presidency of someone like Pence, Cruz, Ryan, or even Mitch McConnell at that time), along with Neptune in Pisces continuing the spiritual influence. The Pluto in Aquarius era, signifying the start of the Aquarian age, will likely be when we finally break free of these systems.

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posted January 09, 2017 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, very nice word os SDragon, once i wrote this:

Born to Wait
Wait till Death

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posted January 12, 2017 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@sdragon Talk about a depressing prediction. The doom and gloom is killing me. U see any light at the end of this tunnel?

Scorpio rules death, taboo, regeneration and other 8 house issues, but it's true essence is 'that which is not'. Scorpio fuses with the essence of others and archetypes that it feels it is lacking in and through doing that, strengthens itself and discovers who they truly are and their own natural inherit power which they thought was outside of themselves. Taurus is more about 'that which is', the materialism and attachments that create a foundation of stability.

The reason I bring this up, is because the past 20-30 years of materialism is ending and the people that have discovered that internal strength of 'I AM' will weather the storms because it's like building a shelter against the hurricane . The Anchor holds them in place while everything outside seems to be falling apart. The people who have relied too much on external 'Taurean' values and have not developed internal 'Scorpionic' values will suffer the most because they will believe 'THEY ARE THAT', they are their image of wealth, social status, career, etc.

Not sure if that's pessimistic or optimistic but I guess it's how you're preparing yourself. I'm not in the Pluto in Scorpio generation but I have Pluto in the 8th (Libra) so I can definitely relate with them.

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posted March 14, 2017 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of optimisn now at the economy.

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posted March 15, 2017 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The tax reduction should boost the economy.

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Lots of optimisn now at the economy.

Yes, I've heard since late 2016/early 2017 that the economy is back on track, finally.

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posted March 20, 2017 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could have bad economic issues in the US if someone attacks Trump.
Honestly I was afraid he would be killed before taking his oath as president.
People were so angry and protesting so much. I mean what kind of democracy are we talking about when such liberal people cannot accept the elections result?

Hipocrisy scares me whether left or right. I make no distinctions.

About Saturn in Capricorn, I can see it as well as an economical crisis period since my country was under IMFs claws in 88-89 when I was born.

But it must kept in mind that Saturn in Capricorn is well dignified. It really depends on the other outer planets being well aspected at the time or not. But reading your previous posts I suspect it's not looking good.

You know, I'm having the feeling the prosperity now is temporary. Like a pause to breath before the big blast.

I work in a bank of investment and so much is illusory. Big institutions negotiating on loans of loans of loans. When one fails, liquidity of the market is threatened immediately. Like a domino. If you reclaim the money to actually back the transactions everybody sweats.


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posted March 21, 2017 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Much of the economy rests on optimism. If Trump lowers taxes like he says, the economy will boon.

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Stocks have hit a pinnacle, are at a saturation point right now! Overvalued, overpriced. Sounds like a crash will happen within two years, or less!

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Much of the economy rests on optimism. If Trump lowers taxes like he says, the economy will boon.

the US economy is historically driven by consumer spending. trumps tax cut will only benefit the rich oligarchs like him. the middle class is nearly extinct.
just lookatallthe100's of retail store closing that have happened and are slated to happen .not to mention the hundreds of malls that are bankrupt or the large consumer chains such as Sear which are near bankruptcy.

so there is really no way for a economic recovery to happened.it hasn't happened in almost 10 years sent the 2008 crash and it is becoming increasing obvious that trump is only interested in making billionaires richer than they are now.
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posted April 07, 2017 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The tax cuts are for everyone.

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posted April 24, 2017 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think of the Uranus/ Jupiter opposition becoming exact in September of this year? Both on the cusps of financial houses...

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posted April 25, 2017 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting! That's when the tax plan is expected to be finished.

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posted October 09, 2017 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has been delayed.

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posted November 27, 2017 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The economy is booming!

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posted November 28, 2017 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Expected to be signed into law before Christmas.

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What goes up must come down! We shall see what happens I hope for the best. But I'm watching oil prices and commodities closely!

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What goes up must come down! We shall see what happens I hope for the best. But I'm watching oil prices and commodities closely!

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posted November 30, 2017 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The DOW just broke 24,000!

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posted December 01, 2017 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Expect 25,000!

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posted December 02, 2017 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tax reform passed the Senate!

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posted December 03, 2017 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How high will it go?

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Another record set today.

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