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aka Kat
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posted September 04, 2009 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
When I mention to someone I have a sugar addiction or chocolate addiction it brings about laughter. But laughter aside this is really no laughing matter. When I start I can't stop until I get a rush. I realized that I eat certain foods because of the high I get from it. It's a really good emotional feeling.I noticed that I respond emotionally to all taste. On one hand, it's very enjoyable, but I think overdoing the sweets and rich food is slowly destroying my body. In general I keep away from caffeine except for chocolate. I have a heart condition that will go tachycardic with a certain amount of caffeine and other causes.
I'm learning that sugar interferes with calcium absorption, creates issues with muscles, among other problems. I don't want to end up diabetic. I used to be super thin in my younger years, now I need to lose about 20-25 pounds ( just lost about 10.) I'm fairly tall so I carry it, but my body is calling to be cared for.

Part of me thinks that I have this natural "low" biologically and somehow sugar provided the right "kick" The problem is how do I kick this habit before it creates more health issues than it already has.

Am I lacking something? I think something is off since my mind says one thing and the next thing I know I ate 3 ice cream bars within 15 minutes. Then,I realize that maybe my thoughts have something to do with it because I just bought a pair of PJs (usually don't try on PJs in the store) and when I put them on they showed every bulge and roll. So what did I unconciously do, eat ice cream until I got a rush. Yet at times there is no belittling going on and I just eat it because it tastes really really good and I keep doing it. It's like having an orgasm of the taste buds, but it also is in the brain.

Is it safe to go cold turkey and not eat any white sugar at all? Is there a way to really cut the sugar? If my body is craving that rush, what can be done about it? Does anyone know any links, etc?


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Azalaksh
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posted September 04, 2009 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Is it safe to go cold turkey and not eat any white sugar at all? Is there a way to really cut the sugar? If my body is craving that rush, what can be done about it?
Why do you think it wouldn't be "safe" to go cold turkey?? Just curious.....
Yes, there's ways to cut sugar out of your diet
Going "cold turkey" and cutting out refined sugar is easier when you substitute:
blue agave
stevia
honey
But mostly, were I you, I would get my "fix" from fructose -- eat lots of fruit
After 3 days or so, your body will stop pestering you for your sugar fix.
Eat veggies, fruit and complex carbs -- your body gets its fix but in lower doses and slower (to raise your blood sugar), so you don't get the high/rush, and then the crash with the cravings to eat more so you can get the high/rush again -- a terrible, vicious, unhealthy cycle.....

You can do it!!

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T
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posted September 05, 2009 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Good advice from Madame Z. Try honey (must be raw and unfiltered)!

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hippichick
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posted September 05, 2009 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Here, here, Z!!!

My 2cents worth...seratonin, possibly.

We "crave" in our diets what we lack physiologically. Often folks who crave carbs (in whatever form) are seratonin-depleted (been there done that.)

I would suggest as Z pointed out brilliantly, moving toward more healthy carbs...when you crave sugar, go ahead and have your fix, what ever it may be, but in a lesser amount, then add some fruit. Then move to whole grains and fruit. Slowly "wean" yourself off of sugar and incorporate more "good" carbs into your diet that are low on the glycemic index, ie: whole grains, anything brown. Move from white to brown.

All things in moderation, I suppose....I, never being a "sweet" person, will indulge in the occasional chololate, cookie or cake...just to satisfy my few and far between sweet cravings, my vice is carbs in the form of potatos and grain products.

Still different sides of the same coin, carbs are carbs.

I lean toward a greater protien intake in my daily food consumption, carbs can be deadly for me, but I have learned that we need carbs, quality carbs for complete and balanced homeostasis of the body.

blessings

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katatonic
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posted September 05, 2009 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
there is a site devoted to kicking sugar online. i have forgotten its name!

but the trick they push is very simple...protein at breakfast, and at regular intervals throughout the day, and i think they suggest a WHOLE (in the skin) small potato a couple of hours before bed.

i will try to find the address for you but i think if you look up the topic you will come across them...

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Azalaksh
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posted September 05, 2009 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi T 'n' T (what a combo!! )

Great advice from the medical perspective/background, hippi
ala kat, I don't have any medical training, just a lot of reading on health issues, so don't take my word for any suggestions here -- do the reading yourself, and try different things.
All our bodies are different. Hippi doesn't "crave" sweets like you or I do, and there are definitely times when I cave in and get a 3 Musketeers bar.
But I feel so much better (healthier, happier) when I DON'T EAT SUGAR.

Here are some links:
http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/lower-your-sugar-intake/article15980.html
http://ask.metafilter.com/24281/Addicted-to-sugar
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art13324.asp

All I did was google "weaning yourself off sugar" -- there are lots of hits.....
Whatever you do, DON'T substitute artificial sweeteners for refined white sugar!! Most of them are worse than the white sugar

See:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/007734.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002264.html

Please let us know how it goes, ala Kat.....

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posted September 05, 2009 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the links Z. I'm not big on sugar, but am thinking of cutting it out all together too.

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aka Kat
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posted September 07, 2009 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks all great advice.

Thanks for the links. they are fabulous I forget about the hidden sugars in condiments, etc.

Someone once sent me a link on how sugar destroys our bodies, it is really scary - I had no idea. Sugar is more addicting that heroin but not classified as an addiction. http://rheumatic.org/sugar.htm (I think this is it,)

I like the ideas as to limiting it to dessert at dinner or just odd number days, then just Sundays (hmm I'm suddenly thinking about vanilla ice cream)

I know someone who went on a weight loss diet, she counted the calories, fat, sugar, protein, carbs, etc. of absolutely everything she ate - all written down like an accountant (too much for me to tolerate) She quickly learned that much of her caloric intake was empty calories and was lacking in healthy foods. Her weight just dropped off and is maintained a couple of years later.

The thing that I'm concerned about - I just had surgery on a tendon in my foot/ankle. I was finding "cysts or fibroids" and some were getting bigger and I kept finding more. The doctor was going to do a small incision and remove them. When I came out of surgery the nurse showed me a jar and it looked like a heaping teaspoon full of couscous with a few bigger chunks about 5-9mm. I couldn't count accurately under the influence of anethesia but there were about 30 calcium deposits! I originally could only feel about 7 maybe 8. I now have a huge 5" incision. the doctor said when he went in he kept finding more and more! My sister said someone at work said I must have calcium issues. On the internet it say magnesium issues. Since sugar can interfere with the absorption of mag/calcium, I'm starting to wonder if my diet is to blame specifically sugar. I've got allergies, muscles issues, TMJ, minor arthritis, fibromyalgia all of these are iritated by ----- sugar. big wake-up


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Taurean_Scorpion
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posted October 30, 2009 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
aka Kat,

so sorry to hear that... take care of yourself.

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listenstotrees
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posted October 30, 2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
I have the same problem.

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Glaucus
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posted October 31, 2009 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
sugar is like a drug imho


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charmainec
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posted December 07, 2009 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message
Honey doesn't sustain the craving long enough 0_0

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charmainec
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posted December 08, 2009 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message
Some tips I found

1. Know all the sneaky names for sugar. Read food labels and get rid of condiments, sauces, and dressings with sugar in them. Learn to make condiments and dressings with out the sugar.

2. Eat fruit. Fruit is a great way to eat something sweet, and control calories. Just stay away from dried fruit or sweetened fruit.


3. Avoid artificial sweeteners. These are just a crutch. They keep you from learning to enjoy the natural sweetness of real food. There are also studies that show that they can make you crave sugar, not to mention the studies that show other dangerous health effects like cancer.

4. Eliminate the white stuff. White flour, white rice, and white potatoes. These have the same affect on blood sugar as sugar, and this will make sugar harder to kick. These foods keep you on the insulin- low blood sugar cycle.

5. Avoid juice. Even 100% juice is sugar water in disguise. Drink water, and if you must, only a splash of juice for flavor.

6. Try stevia. Stevia is an herb that is very sweet and has a slight licorice flavor. While it is a stretch to make a whole dessert with stevia, it is great in coffee and on cereal. It may take some getting used to, but it is way better than loading your food with sugar or known toxic chemicals.Tip: Look for stevia in the dietary supplement section. It will not be with the sweeteners.

7. Learn to use honey. If you really need a sugar fix, eat some honey. Learn to cook with it. Learn how to drizzle it in thin steams. It is very high in sugar but, has other benefits that sugar does not and it is all natural.Tip: Buy honey local to your area. The local pollens the bees use to make the honey could help prevent some seasonal allergies.

8. Limit alcohol. Alcohol is made from sugar. It acts like sugar in the body. Especially when you first are trying to kick sugar stay away from any alcoholic beverages.

9. Bring a low sugar dessert to share. Temptations are everywhere. Show others how delicious a low sugar life style can be.

10. Keep it out of the house. Do not temp yourself with your child's pop tarts or your husband's ice cream. Tell your family what you are doing and then put your foot down. It is hard enough with out sweets calling your name all day long.

11. Eat sweet potatoes, red potatoes, and brown rice with meals. These are the foods to replace the white foods with. Sweet potatoes make a yummy dessert with a little yogurt. Steam small red potatoes or some brown rice to eat with dinner. If time is an issue, cook these items ahead of time.

12. If you must eat sweets, eat them after meals. After meals sugar has less of an effect on blood sugar. You will be less likely to crash and crave more later.

Sugar is a hard habit to kick. Cravings will lessen with time. The longer sugar is out of your diet the easier it gets.

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aka Kat
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posted December 15, 2009 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
thanks

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unconscious honey
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posted February 10, 2010 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
"Potatoes Not Prozac" is an extremely resourceful book on sugar addiction. It's one of the most interesting books I've ever come across. I've also heard "Sugar Blues" is an exceptional motivational book about beating a sugar addiction.

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posted August 16, 2010 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puppet04     Edit/Delete Message
get tested for pcos and follow gi diet

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LEXX
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posted August 16, 2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Do not, I repeat...do not wait until you get the sugar craving!
A wee bit EVERY day will stop the binge type, feeling deprived cravings.
Seriously!
Then once your mind and body realizes you can CHOOSE to have a sweet....there will always be sweets....
then you will be able to give it up most of the time.

Giving yourself permission to indulge once in awhile, WITHOUT GUILT....
will lessen your sense of missing out, or feeling deprived the rest of the time.
Like if I want a sweet.....
I have it, savor it, and then tell myself, you can have another whenever you want....
I then feel free to NOT over indulge.

If you have Diabetes, even carrots are high glycemic, and fruits, so not the safe things one usually thinks, same for honey.
Also...

quote:
Tip: Buy honey local to your area. The local pollens the bees use to make the honey could help prevent some seasonal allergies.
Eek!
One is most likely to be allergic to the local pollens!
I must use honey not from my area,
or the early honey not the late Summer Fall honey.
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posted August 17, 2010 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
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Giving yourself permission to indulge once in awhile, WITHOUT GUILT....
will lessen your sense of missing out, or feeling deprived the rest of the time.
Like if I want a sweet.....
I have it, savor it, and then tell myself, you can have another whenever you want....
I then feel free to NOT over indulge.

Well said, LEXX. I find that works for me as well. As long as I know I can get it, I don't crave it.

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One is most likely to be allergic to the local pollens!

I saw a video a few months ago about how you actually build up your tolerance to allergens if you eat local honey. Like taking a bit of poison everyday - it can help overcome the allergies you have to local pollen.

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