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Topic: Transgender Bill Signed
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2013 08:02 PM
California Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a groundbreaking bill which will allow transgender youth to use whatever bathroom and participate on whichever sports team they believe matches their gender identity.As the Associated Press reported last month, California's Assembly Bill 1266 gives students in public K-12 schools the right "to participate in sex-segregated programs, activities and facilities" based on their self-perception, regardless of their birth gender. Although Massachusetts, Connecticut, Washington and Colorado have adopted policies designed to protect transgender students, California becomes the first state to address the issue with a statewide law, Fox News pointed out. News of Brown's Aug. 12 signing was confirmed in an email to HuffPost Gay Voices from Mark Snyder of the Transgender Law Center. Scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1, 2014, AB1266 was authored by Assemblymember Tom Ammiano and passed the California State Senate and Assembly earlier this summer, according to San Diego Gay and Lesbian News. Meanwhile, Brown's move quickly drew praise from the state's lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community. "I'm so excited that California is making sure transgender students have a fair chance to graduate and succeed," Calen Valencia, an 18-year-old transgender student, said in an email statement. "I should have graduated this year, but my school refused to give me the same opportunity to succeed as other boys. Now other transgender youth won't have to choose between being themselves and graduating high school." Echoing those sentiments was Masen Davis, Executive Director of the Transgender Law Center. “Now, every transgender student in California will be able to get up in the morning knowing that when they go to school as their authentic self they will have the same fair chance at success as their classmates," Davis said in an email. More conservative pundits felt differently. "This radical bill warps the gender expectations of children by forcing all California public schools to permit biological boys in girls restrooms, showers, clubs and on girls sports teams and biological girls in boys restrooms, showers, clubs and sports teams," Randy Thomasson of savecalifornia.com told Fox News. "This is insanity." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/12/california-transgender-students-bill-_n_3745337.html IP: Logged |
bethbabe Knowflake Posts: 562 From: CA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 03, 2013 01:53 AM
::thumbs up::!IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 3787 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 18, 2013 06:56 PM
Can people under 18 get surgery for sex change?I've only met a transgender once in my life. I'm genuinely wondering if someone doesn't have their private parts changed to the gender they want how showering and changing in front of people with different private parts would work? My heart goes out to transgenders for their struggle. IP: Logged |
bethbabe Knowflake Posts: 562 From: CA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 20, 2013 03:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: Can people under 18 get surgery for sex change?I've only met a transgender once in my life. I'm genuinely wondering if someone doesn't have their private parts changed to the gender they want how showering and changing in front of people with different private parts would work? My heart goes out to transgenders for their struggle.
I don't think you can get a sex change under 18 in the US, but maybe in thailand you can? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2014 06:53 AM
You can with parental consent?IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8806 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 08, 2014 02:11 PM
I've seen interviews with parents who sent a child to school as another gender than they were born and considered transexual. I can't recall if any surgery was done with that.The one case I know of surgery being used was in response to a circumcision gone wrong (a reason not to allow hospitals to circumcise!). Unfortunately he wasn't really transgendered in any way and ended up committing suicide miserable in a female body. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2014 10:08 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 13, 2014 03:53 PM
Haven't heard much about this bill.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 14, 2014 10:12 AM
My daughter was not a happy camper.The thought of that one pushy boy following her into the bathroom made her wish for homeschool. Haven't heard anymore about it lately though. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2014 02:37 PM
That is another concern.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 15, 2014 05:54 PM
I haven't heard anything else from her since.If there was a problem with her or even which way the schoolyard sentiment was going, she would let me know. So, so far those fears were groundless. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2014 06:39 PM
Oh, I thought it was a particular incident that happened. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 15, 2014 11:50 PM
No, it was an ongoing debate at the time.When it passed, she came home wishing to be home schooled again, as she feared that boy might take advantage of the leniency. She's had trouble with him. So far, it has been alright. I refused to sign a petition against it, stating quite honestly that I wasn't sure where I stood on the issue. Pure Libra. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8806 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 16, 2014 04:01 AM
If that boy takes advantage of that leniency...let all the other boys know that he considers himself female.No, they won't start doing the same (and even if they did then that little "loophole" will get plugged fast), instead that boy will learn the joys of how alive homophobia (*) remains in school, even in California. (*No one explain to me the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity, I'm obviously basing this on the ignorance of the majority who DON'T know that. It probably wouldn't make a difference anyway as the boy code is actually more against boys being feminine than gay anyway, that is gay boys would have it easier to even feminine straight boys if the distinction was understood by all.) IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 16, 2014 04:36 AM
I would never encourage kids to do that sort of thing Pixie.I've had enough issues in my family with my own preferences to never promote any sort of finger pointing for any reason. Teachers aren't stupid, and if there was a problem, that girl knows how to speak out, let me tell you... The part of California in which I currently reside is not very tolerant of differences either. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 17, 2014 03:28 PM
Understood.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2014 02:29 PM
Complicated issue.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 19, 2014 03:25 AM
You asked, so I told you what I knew.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2014 03:32 PM
Thanks.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 20, 2014 03:49 PM
Anytime.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 10118 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2017 09:14 AM
Will the bill hold up under Trumps reign? ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2017 09:42 AM
This is a CA bill. Obama made it national with his EA. Trump will probably squash that. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 19, 2017 03:15 PM
I heard he already did.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 20, 2017 11:48 AM
Over 40 Executive Orders and Memorandums.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76204 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2017 12:21 PM
I'll try to find a list.IP: Logged |