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katatonic
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posted July 02, 2010 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
valus, oh valus, what will we do with you? you are a good man, though that does not make you blameless. we are all human here as far as i know. i don't know what kind of god you revere but i revere the god within you. and within everyone else.

apology accepted. of course. i know what it is like to get the bit between your teeth! there is nothing wrong with being wise in your own sight, as you put it. we all should be, but without having to look down on others because of it. nor should we have to grovel when we err. try to remember you are amongst friends, brothers and sisters?

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The most humble words said with sincerity are...


I was wrong,

I am sorry,

please forgive me.



There is always forgiveness for a repentant soul Valus, remember that.

The only thing you have proven is that you are human, just like everyone else.


Only God is perfect & to expect that from yourself or anyone else is madness. So resolve to be better and then do better. If you trip along the way, it's no big deal.

Now go make peace with yourself

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starkiss1
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posted July 03, 2010 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a flipping joke this man is.

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GypseeWind
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posted July 03, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*** OY! ***

Now I lay me
down to sleep
I pray the Lord
my soul to keep
and if I die
before I wake
I pray the Lord
my soul to take.


God Bless
Yin
Valus
Teasel
AG
Cpn
Abs
Kat
Xodian
T
Starkiss
ummmm, who'd I forget?

Oh, and please bless Tina Turner, let her be happy Lord.
Wait, she's a Sag, there's no keeping her down for long.

AMEN

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iQ
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posted July 03, 2010 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posted June 14th:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204527.html

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Its not just earthquakes people. Saturn opp Uranus stirs up every old energy with the new. Its like fresh wine forced into old bottles with the old wine not having a new bottle to escape.

Forum arguments are occurring in many new age forums. Since I know the charts of most knowflakes, I know for certain that they wont argue on anything if they meet in person but with this challenging transit, internet arguments WILL go out of control.

The best way to comment or even disagree in such times is to state your point, the reasons for your point, and then full stop.
Dont like something? Ignore it. Like something? Praise it. Win win situation.

Debating will go nowhere for a few weeks/months. Wait till we come to the August Grand Cross....
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T
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posted July 03, 2010 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the degrees the Cross is happening on again IQ? I think it's been hovering around my moon and Nodes...
Moon 29 Virgo and Nodes 4 Libra/Aries.

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katatonic
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posted July 03, 2010 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, T; at the moment uranus and saturn are in late virgo/pisces and jupiter in early aries, pluto early cap. soon uranus will go back into aries - coupla days i think? this cross is all over my family's charts...

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posted July 03, 2010 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that makes a buncha sense kat. thanks.

and thank you Musette and Gypsee.

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posted July 03, 2010 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Its not just earthquakes people. Saturn opp Uranus stirs up every old energy with the new. Its like fresh wine forced into old bottles with the old wine not having a new bottle to escape.

Forum arguments are occurring in many new age forums. Since I know the charts of most knowflakes, I know for certain that they wont argue on anything if they meet in person but with this challenging transit, internet arguments WILL go out of control.


I know that Saturn/Uranus is a revolutionary aspect and revolutions often include wars/disputes. But this is part of a cycle that involves a single person aggressively attacking, hurting, and even driving out some very good people for years on end. Therefore it can't be attributed to just Saturn/Uranus, although that aspect doesn't help. Maybe, hopefully, the Saturn/Uranus revolutionary effect on LL can be an end to the abusive bullying of others by a person who displays narcissistic personality disorder (it exactly fits Valus's behaviors and patterns on LL - specifically a fanatic type narcissist experiencing narcissistic rage).

That's my point and the reasons for my point, and here's the full stop.

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Dont like something? Ignore it. Like something? Praise it. Win win situation.
Good advice, iQ.

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starkiss1
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posted July 03, 2010 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Musette,

I am behind you all the way.
Well said, girl.

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Node
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posted July 03, 2010 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranian Point Admetos is currently at 26 T

Lilith ingress in Pisces

blog about Cali and quakes-astro quake zone


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starkiss1
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posted July 03, 2010 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Grandiosity is the state of being delusional in terms of one's importance. Grandiose behavior often affects others as being unrealistic, conceited and even rude. People experiencing grandiosity may feel they have special powers or a unique spiritual connection with the universe.

Those with any type of grandiose delusions tend to push people away by displaying brash, conceited behavior. Both personal and professional relationships are likely to be affected if grandiose delusional people become aggressive or violent in addition to behaving defensively and secretively.

Grandiose is just one type of delusional disorder.

Those experiencing grandiose delusional disorder have the false knowledge that they have special powers or abilities.
Grandiose delusional disorder is quite rare, but if grandiosity seems to be a regular behaviour, professional help should be sought for a proper diagnosis.

Yet, delusional people are usually fixed in their beliefs and won't believe they have a mental disorder.

Those with any type of grandiose delusions tend to push people away by displaying brash, conceited behavior. Both personal and professional relationships are likely to be affected if grandiose delusional people become aggressive or violent in addition to behaving defensively and secretively.

Grandiose thinking may be kept secret at first, but because the delusional person often has such strong false beliefs and boasts about his or her powers, abilities or accomplishments, other people tend to become aware of the problem.

In some cases, the delusion may be believable and it may take others time to realize that the delusional person is not connected to reality.

People with grandiose delusional disorder often seem believable when their claims aren't too far-fetched, as they tend to be extremely detail-oriented and deeply convinced that their false beliefs are actually the truth.

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wow. i know someone personally that has EXACTLY what is described there.

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted July 03, 2010 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is part of a cycle that involves a single person aggressively attacking, hurting, and even driving out some very good people for years on end. Therefore it can't be attributed to just Saturn/Uranus, although that aspect doesn't help. Maybe, hopefully, the Saturn/Uranus revolutionary effect on LL can be an end to the abusive bullying of others by a person who displays narcissistic personality disorder (it exactly fits Valus's behaviors and patterns on LL - specifically a fanatic type narcissist experiencing narcissistic rage).

It's been going as long as he's been here. he arrived in 2004.

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katatonic
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posted July 03, 2010 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The best way to comment or even disagree in such times is to state your point, the reasons for your point, and then full stop.
Dont like something? Ignore it. Like something? Praise it. Win win situation.

i know there were a lot of hurt feelings here. i understand this is not the first time. but if you bruise easily whitewater rafting is not a great choice of holiday..?

and there is no honour in dissecting someone once they have admitted error and left the room. even if you have seen it all before.

i work with someone with a grandiose case of narcissistic disorder if not ALSO entirely schizoid. a steady stream of "new faces" in the organization she runs helps keep it afloat, and the lawsuits are rare...it took me awhile to realize i was never going to change her and not to engage in attempts to do so. now i hardly ever see her and conduct my work in peace without having had to leave the building... and what i learned from her is .. priceless.

sticks and stones, y'know. after all this is an ONLINE room...

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posted July 03, 2010 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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know there were a lot of hurt feelings here. i understand this is not the first time. but if you bruise easily whitewater rafting is not a great choice of holiday..?

I would like to point out that others have been banned for the same type of behavior as said individual.

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T
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posted July 03, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node! What the heck is that all about!? I'll have to explore the link more later.

about the thread and everything....these days I prefer people who are less talk and more action. Less apologizing and more reflecting and doing inner changing. I'm familliar with certain ways by now (i grew up with a parent like this) and would prefer to see someone walk their talk instead. Some people are quick to apologize but the heavy work of the soul doesnt transoform easily or overnight and sometimes it seems simply wants to be coddled.

Kat, i caught your drift and it was where my thoughts went too. Nobody answaers or apologizes to God as if he is seperate. It's about seeing God in others and the world around you and treating that/them with respect. There is no other Way. None of us are answering to some God up in Heaven. He's in our brothers and sisters and all around us. Some might not ever get it though.

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posted July 03, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat, you do make a very good point that we can learn from people with psychological disorders. Having a disorder doesn't make a person any less valuable or incapable of imparting lessons. However, if a person constantly abuses others (online or in-person), I don't see the point in being complacent with that abuse despite any potential lessons. If other people feel differently, that's their choice but it isn't mine.

That's only my opinion. Do you watch Glee? I always laugh when Sue signs off with "And that's the way Sue Sylvester.... C's it!"

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posted July 03, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 04, 2010 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
musette, complacency doesn't come into it.
direct action would i guess be talking to randall about it. or anything BUT keep the nasty energy going. my point about the person i mentioned is that i have lifted my energy right out of her "sphere" so her energy doesn't find a place to land.

a war story: until airborne warfare, everyone who invaded russia experienced defeat, in the same way. as winter (quite long in those parts) set in the countrymen burned what crops they could not take with them and backed off. the soldiers couldn't kill anyone because there was no one available, nor did they find any food...and largely they starved to death, or limped home with frostbite and malnutrition.

the russians could have stood and fought but they didn't have much of an army. but even napoleon couldn't beat what he couldn't find.

unfortunately i don't have a tv so i have to admit i've never seen "glee"...

i will be watching this soon tho

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posted July 04, 2010 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you bruise easily whitewater rafting is not a great choice of holiday..?
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IMO, this should be addressed to V.

This is just the case.

Unfortunately, he is not capable of holding a civilised discussion for some reason or the other, and turns to aggressive verbal abuse systematically when somebody else's point of view is presented.

His best and most used argument is to slap his opponent with a loud insult.

If the opponent still persists with their point of view (shock, horror), they are usually advised to go f*ck themselves.

I have just described a typical and boringly repetitive scenario of V's way of debating.

I think some people are quite rightly getting fed up with this behaviour, whether it's caused by narcissism, grandiosity or simply the lack of social skills, which are necessary for interaction with people, even if it's online forum.

Being online is not an excuse for that type of behaviour and should never be.


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posted July 04, 2010 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I genuinely don't understand why you continue to engage with someone you think of as narcisstic, etc. If you think someone is these things, then what use is telling them?!?! How willing do you think they are to receive that? And narcisstic disorder or not, no-one is going to respond kindly to that. Where does that leave you? And why give them the attention you think they don't deserve? You're only really arguing with yourself. Why argue with someone you think doesn't want to learn, but only to preach, when they come from the point of idealism, and no personal experience in the subject? You don't want anyone to experience some of these things you've been arguing about. Your ego vs their ego, shouting above each other to be heard and right. Valus and I have had our disagreements, but geez, it's more civil to ignore each other than this ******** . Most of the posts in this thread are pot calling kettle black.

The negativity spills around the entire site now! This is why I don't hang around here much anymore.

Even the apologies have backhanders. All this talk about seeing the God in others... where is it? I'm really sad. I used to love coming here.

Where is the love? Show me the frickin' love.

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Jinu. In case I ever forget to tell you - you are light. I wish you were here more.

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posted July 04, 2010 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for PA

P.S. cool to see you here again

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posted July 04, 2010 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for the knowflakes

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posted July 04, 2010 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone's ego raises the ire of your ego and on it goes...

we're only small in the scheme of things and our time is really short - and too precious for this. Call me idealist - I've been called worse.

It can be easy to forget who you are and your own values and become that which you oppose. I've found it's a fine line. Choose your battles wisely, as most of them really aren't worth fighting.

I think humility is when you see yourself in others and them in you. As much as we're all unique, there's not much that separates us - only what we choose.

Everyone.

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Peri You're a star. I just love you.

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