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Topic: CHINESE ASTROLOGY: Your Inner Companion
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sand
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posted December 30, 2011 05:27 PM
  
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posted December 30, 2011 05:33 PM
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anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 04:49 AM
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IMO of course the day is the most important pillar but it's a different branch of chinese astro from the one mentioned in the topic. i think that book i had is what most people know to be chinese astrology where the importance is on the year. the lucky element stuff you mention is known as bazi/ four pillars..
Sand, can you tell us more about bazi? Where can I get a bazi chart/reading? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 31, 2011 05:01 AM
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anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 05:02 AM
Nice thanks I will look at it.
Do they give you a report as well? Because I don't know anything about bazi charts so I wouldn't understand a thing!IP: Logged |
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posted December 31, 2011 05:11 AM
Hmm, I don't get it. I'm Black Tiger?
I thought I'm a Rooster.  It says "The following is your birth chart. You are Black Tiger, born in the year of Brown Chicken. The first character in DAY represents you. So you are equivalent to Water." Also, that my lucky element is Fire. Now what? I have no clue how the got any of the above neither how it relates to me. Also, how does this relate to the usual Chinese scopes where I'm a Rooster with Horse as Inner Companion? Color me
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sand
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posted December 31, 2011 05:33 AM
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anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 05:43 AM
I registered with what you suggested (giving fake data of course ha). Let's see what kind of chart I get from there. I still don't understand how bazi relates to the usual Chinese skopes where I'm a rooster sign with horse inner companion. Do you know? IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 05:47 AM
So, according to this one, my day master is Ren. quote:
Ren Water people are always on the move, and are typically adaptive, intelligent, and usually unable to sit or stand still. They also tend to be extroverts who always have something going on; although, they might become easily distracted and lose focus quite often. Ren Water types are adventurous people who enjoy robust activities, and are absolutely unstoppable when they put their minds to something. However, they do tend to be rebellious and dislike being made to conform.
So?? Further googling yielded this: From: http://maxine-exploration.blogspot.com/2010/01/bazi-ren-water-day-master.html quote:
The 壬 (Ren) Water lady is perhaps the most challenging type of female, of all the 10 Day Masters. The 壬 (Ren) Water lady is inherently difficult to please, with almost zero tolerance for fools and f*** wittage. She is demanding, capable of being petulant, disdainful of weakness, yet expects all the conventions of romance and passion from her man. To borrow an analogy from Grey's Anatomy, her man needs to know when to alternate between being Preston Burke, and when to be McDreamy. Love is always a toss up for the 壬 (Ren) Water woman - should she chose the powerful, charismatic, strong man who refuses to obey her beck and call, or the romantic, sweet but spineless wonder who adores the ground she walks on? The 壬 (Ren) Water lady may be a serial monogamist, but trust us, she can date like a man. And hell hath no fury like a 壬 (Ren) Water lady scorned so always try to break-up nicely with them.
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sand
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posted December 31, 2011 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
I registered with what you suggested (giving fake data of course ha). Let's see what kind of chart I get from there. I still don't understand how bazi relates to the usual Chinese skopes where I'm a rooster sign with horse inner companion. Do you know?
the rooster could be grandparents/childhood. the horse inner companion could be children/ and your old age. you compare them mostly to the day. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 06:20 AM
Thanks, I definitely relate to the Ren Yang Water description above. But I wish I could tell a bit more about my chart. Not sure how to post it here. What would you need in order to give me a little bazi reading? Thanks much! IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 06:32 AM
Also what are these "elemental values"?
Elemental Values (some Chinese characters here)
1 3 2 3 3
Are you able to explain my bazi chart?
If so, what elements do you need here? I can't copy and paste the chart here; it gets all screwed up. So, let me know what you need for a reading. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 31, 2011 06:44 AM
did ur pillars look like this?
+fire +water -wood -earth
horse tiger pig roosteri do know ur saggo sun just not sure what month..  IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 31, 2011 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Also what are these "elemental values"?
Elemental Values (some Chinese characters here)
1 3 2 3 3
Are you able to explain my bazi chart?
If so, what elements do you need here? I can't copy and paste the chart here; it gets all screwed up. So, let me know what you need for a reading.
those are like pullen/ dominants but like pullen they're hard to compute manually. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
hmm.. r u nov 23, 1969? horsey time of course.
Yes - you found my chart on here? quote:
did ur pillars look like this?
+fire +water -wood -earth
horse tiger pig rooster
But I don't understand: 1) why do you put a + next to fire and water, and a - next to wood and earth? what does it mean? I told you I know NOTHING you have to explain things for me and 2) my bazi chart is nothing like this or it is and i can't read chinese lol.
Here's what I have - it is two tables. The first says: Bing
Yang Fire Ren
Yang Water Yi
Yin Wood Ji
Yin Earth Wu
Horse
Yang Fire Yin
Tiger
Yang Wood Hai
Pig
Yin Water
You
Rooster
Yin Metal Does this help? There is one more table and have no clue how the two relate. HELP!   quote:
i do know ur saggo sun just not sure what month..
Nov 23 is right. First day of Sag. 0d 55' Sag Sun. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 06:56 AM
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those are like pullen/ dominants but like pullen they're hard to compute manually.
yeah but what do they mean if anything? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 31, 2011 08:33 AM
no u gave me 3/4 already just had to use a table to get the exact day and month. i can't read chinese too LOL but the pillars i posted were right. they say the same thing. just convert all the yang to + and the yin to negative you get the same thing. i know basic stuff just enough to understand what a professional astrologer sez, same thing with western hehe! i can maybe give u the basics but no great epiphanies compared to a real reader. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 31, 2011 08:46 AM
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yeah but what do they mean if anything?
(i think) they are further used to compute for the lucky elements. so i don't think they are final yet. your strongest element is the area you concentrate on. your weakest is almost always your lucky element coz it balances out most charts. some charts can't be balanced. practical application is feng shui stuff. like buying a metal bed if your lucky element is metal. there's more but iz loong and i'm not a good teacher lol maybe only to kindergarten students. i'll try to answer further next year lol hafta get ready fo rhe festivities and i'll look at ur chart further too.. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 08:47 AM
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no u gave me 3/4 already just had to use a table to get the exact day and month.
Huh? But how? Roosters are everyone born within a specific year. What made you find the day and month? What table did you look up? Again you are not explaining anything! AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! quote:
but the pillars i posted were right. they say the same thing.
They don't look or even read the same to me. As I said I have no clue what Bazi is or does. quote:
just convert all the yang to + and the yin to negative you get the same thing.
Ah so + is yang and - is yin. OK. Got that! quote:
i know basic stuff just enough to understand what a professional astrologer sez, same thing with western hehe! i can maybe give u the basics but no great epiphanies compared to a real reader.
Epiphanies?! I'm asking for the BASICS! LOL
For instance, what does Tiger Yang Wood means for someone? What does the number 25 means in that table with Tiger Yang Wood and Yang Earth? I'm clueless also about how they calculate this. In short, if you know anything, please explain?! LOL IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 08:50 AM
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(i think) they are further used to compute for the lucky elements.
Well, OK, that's vague enough. LOL
I know from the previous site that my lucky element is fire. But apart from using red a lot, how can I improve my feng-sui? Maybe set my bed on fire?! quote:
i'll try to answer further next year lol hafta get ready fo rhe festivities and i'll look at ur chart further too..
BOOHOOO!! 
Well, alright, happy new year to you, dear sandie! CU in 2012!  hugs,
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sand
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posted December 31, 2011 08:53 AM
LOL so sorry AG! see u gave me your day deets and there is only one ren water tiger in the month of november-december so i concluded that date was it. i have a table in a book for manual calculations. i think kinda like an ephemeris i dunno. i'll try harder to splain nes time! edit: oh wait see but there are very few earth roosters. rooster comes every 12 years yes but for earth rooster to repeat it has to pass the other elements first. so every 60 years. and yep fiya is red, summer, and the south directions.. table in the office if you work in one and bed in the south of ur home would be good. also explosives, entertainers, showbiz, photo studios, lawyers, politicians, retailing, printing, food industries, bakery, assembly plants, repacking, manufacturing, fabricating, sauna, hot spring resort, disco, catering service, beauty parlor, refinery, electrical supply, stock broker, advertising, computers are fire industries. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 31, 2011 09:47 AM
^^ Ok, then, I'll set my computer on fire!
(Could be a good idea given the state of it  )Thanks, sweetie, I learn a lot from you! Hope you get back to me soon! The Impatient Student...... IP: Logged |
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posted December 31, 2011 04:12 PM
Since it changes on the hour, I count it up till the last second (not a minute before). Also, this is local standard time, so if you were born during Daylight Savings Time (DST), you would have to deduct an hour (sometimes two). You can Google your year of birth to see if/when DST applied. Here is the chart in non-military time:Rat 11 pm to 1 am
Ox 1 am to 3 am
Tiger 3 am to 5 am
Rabbit 5 am to 7 am
Dragon 7 am to 9 am
Snake 9 am to 11 am
Horse 11 am to 1 pm
Goat 1 pm to 3 pm
Monkey 3 pm to 5 pm
Rooster 5 pm to 7 pm
Dog 7 pm to 9 pm
Pig 9 pm to 11 pm If an individual has the same Sign and Inner Companion, that person has the strong possibilty of balancing the positive and negative traits of the animal. The Inner Companion is also known by or called the Companion in Life. The main impact with the Inner Companion, though, is as it relates to compatability. For example, the Horse and Rat are two of the most incompatible of Signs; however, if a Rat has a Horse Inner Companion, the Rat will be very attracted to the Horse, and if a Horse has a Rat Inner Companion, the Horse will be very attracted to the Rat. If both of them have the other's Inner Companions, then despite the incompatability of the two Signs, it could be a match made in heaven! This also applies to a lesser degree if the Inner Companions are not the same but are compatible. IP: Logged |
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posted January 01, 2012 07:18 AM
^do u know the specific readings for each combo? i ask coz my horoscope sign and inner companion are not that compatible but they sounded like a good match in the text..IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 01, 2012 07:57 AM
It doesn't matter if they are compatible. If they are antagonistic, it makes for a more well-rounded and interesting personality. It increases compatability with the antagonistic group (four Signs) in others.IP: Logged |
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